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Post by Will Williams » Mon Dec 30, 2024 10:22 am

I may be the only person on C-C wo is critical of JayeRyanOD, but my position is defensible. He makes the blog look bad. Were he to try and comment on either WB or NV, he would be blocked: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... thad-on-x/

When National Vanguard was a print magazine, NA Chairman and NV publisher/editor Pierce had no trouble controlling content. He would occasionally print letters to the editor and respond to them. That changed with NationalVanguard.org online where any jerk could comment. It is my opinion that it's better to have no comments that to allow ones that confuse, contradict and make our NA Webzine look bad.



Will Williams: December 30, 2024
ODandCCreader: December 30, 2024 Brad Griffin is an excellent writer. A very thought provoking person.
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Thomas Friedman is an excellent wordsmith for Jew-owned NY Times, but I couldn't care less about what he scribbles. It's difficult for serious Whites who realize that we need to organize for our race's preservation to find a more excellent writer for that interest than William Pierce. That's why I promote his teachings when compared to all other writers.

What good is reading if we do not organize? What is the National Alliance? | National Alliance

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I have to scroll over all the Jaye Ryan nonsense. His writing is barely literate, and he posts things as if he is the brain trust for the entire blog. Even when he has a good point and he appears to mean well, it comes off as ranting and disjointed and makes the blog look bad. I treat his posts like they are graffiti.
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A site can be evaluated by its worst regular contributors. You've found OD's and perhaps C-C's.


I have to scroll over all the Jaye Ryan nonsense. His writing is barely literate, and he posts things as if he is the brain trust for the entire blog. Even when he has a good point and he appears to mean well, it comes off as ranting and disjointed and makes the blog look bad. I treat his posts like they are graffiti.
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A site can be evaluated by its worst regular contributors. You’ve found OD’s and perhaps C-C’s.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Dec 30, 2024 1:14 pm

Letting Dr. Johnson, owner of C-C, and C-C followers know that there has been the rare man capable to "turn it all around and save the White race": https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... thad-on-x/



Will Williams: December 30, 2024
Greg Johnson: December 30, 2024 The man who turns it all around and saves the white [sic] race will enjoy eternal glory. Someday, he may be worshiped as a god. Odd that there aren’t more people striving for the job.
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It’s not really so odd in this Judaized, multiracial era in which we now live and that is accepted by most as the way things will always be.

The man you describe who “turns it all around” is so rare. I have met him and so has Dr. Robert Griffin who met him and wrote his biography: The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds by Robert S. Griffin – Cosmotheism

Dr. Griffin recognized that Dr. William Pierce was that rare individual that was not only capable to “turn it all around for our race,’ but determined to do so, no matter the personal consequences, if he had to do it alone.

…I am coming to realize the great impact Dr. Pierce has made on my own life. So much more than before I knew him, I am aware of my own finiteness and the need to do what is truly important and lasting in whatever time I have left. So much more than before, I am committed to live publicly and fully as the person I really am. I won’t be silent or controlled by fear, not now, not after knowing him. I seek to live with the courage he demonstrated. I want, in my own unique way, to live as he lived, as an honorable White man. Dr. Pierce was an honorable White man.

On the last day of my month-long stay with Dr. Pierce on his property in West Virginia, I asked him how he would like to be remembered after his passing. He replied, “I truly believe that my race, the White race, is in jeopardy. I’m not saying tomorrow or next year, but if you think in terms of a century or two — a blip in history, really — we are threatened. Especially in this country. I believe we need to re-establish a place for ourselves, on this land, where we can breed true once again, and live our way once again. I want to contribute to that. I don’t want to be a man who marches in step and can’t face being accused of being a racist or harboring anti-Semitic attitudes, or who is unwilling to pay a personal price for doing what he thinks is right. I want to be more independent than that and more courageous than that. I would love to be around a thousand years from now but I won’t be, so I accept the next best thing: the possibility that my people will remember the little bit I contributed to their salvation during a critical period in our history.”

The rest of Dr. Griffin’s tribute, here: (184) We’ll remember, Dr. Pierce! – White Biocentrism

An equally inspiring piece from Dr. Pierce, himself, here: Deleted from YouTube: William Pierce’s “Out of the Darkness” | National Vanguard
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:35 am

I'm like a broken record to most C-Cers, always steering discussions back to the bottom line: racial preservation, that requires strict geographical separation of our race not only from other races but from so many Whites that do not meet our eligibility requirements: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... nt-1842577


Will Williams: December 31, 2024
Sandy: December 31, 2024 Never mind the Indians. Here is a Chinese dude criticizing his own people. You can’t make this up:…
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Thanks, Sandy. I didn’t watch what the Chinaman has to say and don’t care.

What I know is that serious White preservationists had better mind all non-Whites — Indians, Chinese, et. al — as well as most ineligible Whites. The l tter won’t care until it’s too late for them. Whites who count are those who seriously agree with us and will support racial separation.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:47 pm

Counter-Currents prides itself for the intellectual writings of several of its nominally pro-White writers. That's good, but for simple-minded me it is too tedious to read the 13-part, book length series by Collin Cleary, Heidegger, Schelling, & the Reality of Evil https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/he ... l-part-13/ However, NV has this article about Heidegger worth sharing, that our people can grasp and support.


Will Williams: December 31, 2024
Heidegger’s intellectualism is a little beyond my grasp, but I can agree with this from a speech and lecture by Jonathan Bowden. Others may agree: The Primordiality of Death in Heidegger’s Metaphysics | National Vanguard

THE PUBLICATION of Heidegger’s black notebooks has reinvigorated the nest of rodents that comprises Heidegger’s detractors; all of the archaic attacks on Heidegger (pictured), now renewed, flowing from the deep conviction that every aberrant thought about the philosopher has now been vindicated. His so-called supporters, those who aspire to dislodge him from fascism and explain away his anti-Semitism, persist in evincing their weakness of thought and feeling that is betrayed by their agreement with Heidegger’s enemies that the Jewish people are an innocent, faultless people, blissfully guiltless of any sin aside from being successful lawyers, doctors, educators, political reformers, and businessmen.

Even more wretched than either his enemies or his so-called supporters are those critics in nationalist and revisionist circles, who earn cheap points by feigning intellectual and moral superiority in denouncing him for his inaccessible philosophy.

Any real defense of Heidegger must contend with the full range of Heidegger’s opponents and those who claim to be his proponents. And it must proceed from an account of his life that places it in appropriate context: Heidegger’s support for Adolf Hitler at a time when academics and leftists were praising Stalin and Soviet socialism, his postwar, lifelong refusal to so much as even acknowledge the increasingly politically entrenched Holocaust narrative, and the fact that a man with these qualities proposed to reform our thinking by placing the individual firmly in relation to not only his own death, but crucially, the real prospect of the death of his own people, his nation, and ultimately his civilization.

After the war, Heidegger remained steadfast in his basic conviction that, whatever the ills or faults he viewed in it, National-Socialism was the rightful, historical path of the German people….
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:17 pm

It's a good sign that some at C-C adopt the standard of capitalizing the word White when referring to our race: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ho ... wers-them/


Will Williams: December 31, 2024
We of the Dissident Right are usually loath to fight according to the rules of engagement the Left dictates for their enemies…
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“We”? Why not we pro-Whites? Why fight at all with those enemies of our unique, noble race who identify thenselves as Leftists? Our message should only be for our own people.

Today the terms “left wing” and “right wing” are used as symbolic labels for liberals and conservatives, but they were originally coined in reference to the physical seating arrangements of politicians during the French Revolution… The divisions only continued during the 1790s, when newspapers began making reference to the progressive “left” and traditionalist “right” of the French assembly. The distinctions later vanished for several years during the reign of Napoleon Bonaparte… Source: History.com

Isn’t it about time White racial nationalists drop the silly left-wing (liberal) vs. right-wing (conservative) nonsense. Are right-wingers for conserving the White race? Hardly.
ArminiusMaximus: December 31, 2024 Why don’t you capitalize White? You capitalize East Asian. Given that the entirety of European peoples are the sole peoples on earth who are white [sic], and given that the entirety of our people are targeted for territorial, representative, professional and cultural dispossession and targets of cultural and racial genocide by people who define us as white [sic] and characterized as having, whiteness [sic], shouldn’t we, capitalize our skin color as a description of our people and race?
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Good questions, Arminius. We should capitalize the word White when referring to our race and do so consistently.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:08 pm

Dr. Pierce's standard was to capitalize the word White when referring to our own race. That is the National Alliance's standard today, though some members and supporters are slow to catch on to it. At Counter-Currents there is no standard. They write white as it is only a color. Some fools there even prefer to write "ha hite. Is that dignified? No, it's goofy and degrading. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ho ... wers-them/

Will Williams: January 1, 2025
Wifewaffen: January 1, 2025 [Capitalizing White] gives us dignity. The European diaspora is spread globally, and for better or for worse, we are known as White people. Since it is now our name, we should start capitalising it. It’s our language anyway; if we need to adjust a rule to respond to a new need, then we should.
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Thank you, Wifewaffen.
Beau Albrecht: January 1, 2025 Normally I capitalize all races… That makes sense… The times that I don’t do so are because I’m adhering to the style guide. I try not to be a big pain in the neck for the editor.
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Capitalizing all races does make sense, Beau, rather than trying to be cute or obedient by writing jew or black while only capitalizing White when referring to our own race.

You’d do well as a subservient “journalist,” following the Jews’ guidelines so as not to rock their respectable mainstream “industry” boat. Fuck the Jews’ guidelines. We, as Whites, make and follow our own standards, our own guidelines for our interests, not theirs, thanks. It’s easy. Write as a devoted man of your race, adding “legitimacy to our beliefs.”

AP says it will capitalize Black but not white | AP News

The AP said white people in general have much less shared history and culture, and don’t have the experience of being discriminated against because of skin color.

Protests following the death of George Floyd, which led to discussions of policing and Confederate symbols, also prompted many news organizations to examine their own practices and staffing. The Associated Press, whose Stylebook is widely influential in the industry, announced June 19 it would make Black uppercase…

“We agree that white people’s skin color plays into systemic inequalities and injustices, and we want our journalism to robustly explore these problems,” (((John Daniszewski))) [Biography: John Daniszewski | Worth a Thousand Words: The Associated Press and Lance Corporal Joshua Bernard], the AP’s vice president for standards, said in a memo to staff Monday. “But capitalizing the term white, as is done by white supremacists, risks subtly conveying legitimacy to such beliefs.”

Columbia Journalism Review, the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, USA Today, the Los Angeles Times, NBC News and Chicago Tribune are among the organizations that have recently said they would capitalize Black but have not done so for white.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:50 pm

An interesting comment about the 1972 movie Cabaret: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/he ... f-cabaret/


Will Williams: January 1, 2025
BC: January 1, 2025 I always considered it a fluke that the Jew Joel Katz (stage name Grey) won the Oscar for best supporting actor.
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Mr. Katz portrayed his degenerate character well so was awarded the Oscar by the Academy.

For those who hadn’t seen it, Jews screwed up when they included the inspirational National Socialist song “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” in Cabaret: Search for it.

Do you suppose Hollywood nepotism was at play when Joel’s daughter, Jennifer Katz aka Grey, had a lead role in that popular Jew movie “Dirty Dancing”? After that flick Jennifer got a couple of nose jobs to look more Aryan, but those backfired on her like “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” did for creators of Cabaret. Jennifer Grey Reveals She Got Nose Job Due to Mother’s Encouragement – Newsweek
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:59 pm

Some like Elon Musk, others don't. In 2015 Kevin Strom wrote an open letter to him, encouraged by some things Musk had said. Musk did not reply, of course, but he cannot take back what he had revealed about himself in those remarks: https://counter-currents.com/2025/01/el ... migration/

Our Alliance will leave the door cracked for Elon in case he might decide one day too support us through dummy accounts, as he must.




Will Williams: January 2, 2025
ncleapyear: January 1, 2025 Musk’s maternal grandfather, Joshua Haldeman… after moving to South Africa in 1950 supported apartheid. So Musk ought to have some sympathies for our cause.
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Apartheid in southern Africa in 1950 still worked, still kept the peace for the most part so was still defensible, as was racial segregation in the U.S. South back then. We cannot live in close proximity to Blacks in 2025, exploiting them as we did 75 years ago. Never again. It will not work! We must have geographical separation of determined eligible elements of our race from other races if we are to preserve our gene pool. Fact!

Musk knows. He’s not stupid. Ten years ago he said this:

I think demographics is a real issue. People are not having kids in a lot of countries. And very often people will say, “We’ll solve it with immigration.” But immigration from where? Many parts of Europe have an average birthrate of only 50 or 60 per cent. of what’s needed for replacement. Or China for that matter — they’re at 50 per cent. of the replacement rate. Where, exactly, are we going to find 600 million people to replace the ones that were never born?


Add the word racial in front of his word demographics and he is for practical purposes a race-thinker. All we’ve needed is one multi-billionaire backing our cause and the war is half won. Instead, he’s jumped on the Trump train for now, but he knows. He continued:

I think if you were to state the threats to civilization, the lack of people is obviously a threat to civilization. We are going to face, in the mid part of this century, and particularly in the latter part of this century, a demographic implosion the likes of which we have never seen — including the Black Plague


Was he referring to what plagued Europe in the 14th century or the plaque of Blacks today?

Another threat to civilization is religious extremism — obviously a concern. If that grows over time — particularly if it’s a form of anti-science, anti-technology Luddite religious extremism — then it’s an obvious threat.

I won’t mention the third threat to civilization.

He already did, if facetiously, mentioning the Black plague. Source: The Challenges We Face: An Open Letter to Elon Musk | National Vanguard
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Post by Will Williams » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:41 am

I don't know if writing all this is a worthwhile "teaching moment" for those at C-C, but it is now on the record. Greg Johnson could reverse his position of being a fan of Covington's third rate fiction and "shun it," exposing him for what he was.

We'll see.

As C-C owner and perceived leader of C-C followers he could easily establish as a guideline for writers and followers at the site to capitalize the word White when referring to our race and persons of our race. How difficult would that be?

We'll see.

https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ho ... wers-them/



Will Williams: January 3, 2025
Beau Albrecht: January 2, 2025 I was referring to the style guide of this website…


I hadn’t seen C-C’s guidelines so searched for them and found this from 2010:

Commenting Guidelines:

5. Proofread your comments. I do not like to publish comments with missing capital letters, misspelled words, bad grammar, diction errors, etc. I will correct these if I think a comment is substantive enough, but I just don’t have time to fix everything that comes my way.
9. Don’t attack the white [sic] race as a whole or white [sic] racial subgroups and nations. There is a whole internet out there doing that. We intend to be a refuge.


I’m not the only C-C commenter who has pointed out violations of every guideline in #5 by know-it-all JayeRyanOD. C-C makes it easy to proofread a comment and edit to correct missing capital letters, misspelled words, bad grammar, etc., after sending. That boy is simply lazy, stupid or both, or just refuses to go along with reasonable guidelines.

It has been 15 years since Greg established C-C’s guidelines, but perhaps the time has come for capitalizing the word White when referring to our race. Like wise Wifewaffen wrote a couple of days ago, “it gives us dignity” and “It’s our language anyway; if we need to adjust a rule to respond to a new need, then we should.”


As for calling me a subservient journalist, that was a little much… That said, I certainly can’t fault you for your enthusiasm, but diplomacy is helpful too.


You’ve got me there, Beau. Diplomacy is not my strong suit. I apologize since I wrongly assumed the style guide you followed was AP’s anti-White one. Hopefully, at least some at C-C have considered dignifying our race by capitalizing White when referring to our people. It is our language, after all

While searching for C-C guidelines I also found this from 2016: Dealing with Doxers

Any movement person who doxes another movement person must suffer the social equivalent of a death sentence: they must be completely shunned. They must be expelled from all movement organizations, barred from all movement gatherings, and blocked on all social media.
Their friends must be forced to choose sides. It is no deterrent if doxers are shunned by strangers. They must be disavowed and shunned by their friends. And if their friends stick with them, they must be shunned in the same way.


It’s one thing to say that, another to enforce it.

Wouldn’t it be nice if one could actually dictate such a wise policy across the greater “movement”? We cannot. Defamation standards in the U.S. are rigorous and difficult to meet, especially against so-called publishers, that Harold Covington claimed he was. Libels online are considered gossip, not enforceable at all in court — neither, certainly, is internet doxing.

Example: I would often stay at my mother’s house, the home I grew up in, when I was in Raleigh. “Big Lie” Covington, who resided in Raleigh at the time (1995), using his given name instead of one of his many sock puppet names, posted my mother’s street address to several WN and Skinhead Usenet groups, telling them that I needed to be “terminated with extreme prejudice” — a clever way to say murdered,

I could do nothing about that because Usenet, that was an early social medium, was just so much Internet bullshit. But when he wrote explicitly in his pissy “Resistance” newsletter that I was a “deep cover FBI Special Agent and mass murderer Tim McVeigh’s handler,” and snail mailed that to third parties with intent to cause me harm, knowing that was a deliberate libel, that was actionable. I showed that to my old Raleigh friend who happened to be Chief Superior Court Judge for Wake County at the time. I showed him Covington’s newsletter as well as his Usenet nonsense, telling him that if I could not get legal relief from the asshole that I was giving notice that I would kill him myself — what I called a justifiable homicide. He believed me and said, “Do not kill him, Will. I’ll take care of this.” I had already consulted with a few attorney friends who would not help me with such a case even though it was cut and dry, rock solid.

A couple of days later an attorney called and represented me pro bono in the successful defamation case Williams v. Covington. I had Dr. Pierce’s blessing if I could retain an attorney, serve the SOB, then prevail. I assured I could meet all three conditions. He paid for the man who served HAC for me.

It was the Usenet crap, doxing my mother, more so than the outrageous libels in Covington’s newsletter that convinced the judge to help me. My exceptional attorney was a legal bulldog and had to suffer being called the “Nazi lawyer” around the Wake County courthouse for representing me. He did not care. Covington needed to be reeled in by the court.

What disappointed me was that once I proved conclusively that Covington was an enemy of our cause, he wasn’t “completely shunned’ much less did he “suffer the social equivalent of a death sentence.” His fans were not “forced to choose sides (between what’s right and what’s wrong),” and his friends, the handful that he may have had, certainly did not “disavow him,” except for maybe Pastor Martin Lindstadt to his credit. Fans of his fiction cared not a whit for the proven sabotage he had wrought against our noble cause for decades.

Lesson learned for C-C fans of his fiction: character counts.
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Post by Will Williams » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:23 pm


We'll have to see if my comment to Beau goes through: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ho ... wers-them/ Perhaps Greg Johnson or a C-C moderator believes my criticism of fans of Covington's fiction is too harsh. It is not.


What I responded to by Beau:
Beau Albrecht: January 3, 2025 I do recall some of “Hubba Hubba” Convington’s keyboard warrior stunts back then. If memory serves, he claimed that you were “John Doe #2” in a desert tan, right? Anyway, stuff like that convinced me that Harold was a loose cannon on deck, at the very best. Those who are fighting against their own side more than their enemies are doing something wrong.

I haven’t read any of his books, so I can’t say one way or another about his literary merits.

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Beau Albrecht: January 3, 2025 Those who are fighting against their own side more than their enemies are doing something wrong. I also found it telling that the people he was putting down the most were those who were the most effective. I haven’t read any of his books, so I can’t say one way or another about his literary merits.
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You didn’t have to read his shitty novels, looking for “literary merrit,” to see that he was the enemy of our cause. As a respected columnist it’s never too late for you, when you see something like what he did, to say something. There’s a well-documented story there for our side that has barely been told. Our side did not have the authority yet to punish an enemy such as Covington as he deserved. I resolved my issues with him legally, but movement dilletants and dabblers ignored what I exposed about him, more interested in his <cough!> literary merits. Fact!
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