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Post by Will Williams » Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:26 pm

C.E. Whiteoak wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:00 pm
Sometimes I wonder if the people at Counter-Currents have their heads somewhere besides on their shoulders. :o

They just recently posted an article (apparently) praising the fiction of none other than Harold A. Covington. I say "apparently" because I couldn't read the article without forking over some money to join their "paywall." I did post a comment, however, but I won't be surprised if it never appears.

https://counter-currents.com/2023/08/th ... -part-one/
Thanks for the tip, C.E., and for your activism where like-minded Whites may gather. Your comment did appear and I just commented below it: Whereas my informative links did not appear, I notice that the one you posted did. :lol:
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C.E. Whiteoak August 27, 2023 at 1:41 pm
A lot of Covington’s fiction was not what was published as novels or stories. It was pure slander directed at highly principaled White advocates who were his superiors in every way. It was slander intended to destroy the reputations of good men, and possibly result in their false prosecution. Harold Covington was a backstabbing snake. The fact that he scribbled a few novels does not change that.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/07/de ... a-con-man/

Will Williams August 27, 2023 at 4:13 pm
Deb: Sadly, I can’t afford Paywall access but would like to comment on Covington… I’ve come across much negativity about him which I find perplexing but don’t know enough about the man to either agree or disagree. If any readers can point to media that supports either opinion, I would appreciate it.

Deb, I’m thankful that I purchased C-C paywall privileges if only to straighten out some here who are fans of Covington’s fiction, but perplexed as to why anyone would say anything negative about the professional smear artist and political saboteur.

Talented fictional wordsmithing is not a virtue, not when used nefariously.

I couldn’t bring myself to read beyond the first paragraph of the puff piece by Mr. Clark, who is apparently a Covington fan. He writes:



Harold was as much an enemy to White Nationalism, judging by the vitriol poured on him by the National Alliance…


Much of the alleged “vitriol” that was heaped on “Big Lie” Covington came from me as I was a primary target of his poison pen, going back to 1988 when he sued me and Ben Klassen for libel — dropped by him after I answered the frivolous claim using as the truth of what we had written about him as the best defense against his defamation claim. That was 35 years ago. I venture to say I know more than anyone on C-C about Covington.

Covington continued his smears of me after I’d joined Dr. William Pierce’s National Alliance in 1992, even claiming then that Pierce was a “federal asset,” and I was a “deep cover FBI Special Agent who had “successfully infiltrated the White resistance movement for 14 years” and while Pierce’s employ. Yes, the vitriol was flowing from me — except that everything I had to say about him was true, and everything he said about me were bald-faced lies. His fans couldn’t distinguish his fiction from truth. They didn’t care to know the truth.

After he had spread all over Usenet that I needed to be “terminated with extreme prejudice,” and after he put in his cheesy newsletter that I was “John Doe #2, Timothy McVeigh’s handler,” I decided it was time for me to sue the SOB for defamation, which I did.. That was in 1996 — 27 years ago. 18 months later I easily prevailed in that action and was awarded a sizable judgement by the judge who had had enough of Covington’s bs and asked me in open court, “Will, how much money do you want?”

I eventually settled with the SOB after chasing his sorry ass around the country from state to state to exercise the judgment, that by then amounted to more than $250,000. He quit running, hired an attorney and declared bankruptcy. I still managed to squeeze several thousand dollars out of him. He never informed his dim-witted suckers that he declared bankruptcy to avoid execution of my judgment or that he was forced to pay me for his outrageous defamations.

You can read more about “Big Lie” here, where there is a link to much more from truth-teller Hadding Scott:

I’m unable to post the link, but try “Setting the Record Straight” at noncounterproductivedotflawlesslogicdotcom or at nationalvanguarddotorg.

Don’t take my word for it, but you can trust another truth-teller, Martin Kerr, who leads George Lincoln Rockwell’s successor group, New Order, who had this to say about Covington in a comment there a couple of years ago when Edmund Connelly tried to rehabilitate the fraud with another puff piece on TOO:

Again I can’t paste what Mr. Kerr had to say, but the article and comments are still up at TOO at “The War on Whites Harold Covington’s Northwest Novels.” Kerr said there: “No one did more harm to the cause of pro-White advocacy than Covington. From the mid-1970s until his death, he did everything he could to weaken, harm and destroy that cause…”

I’m presuming that is the same cause that is promoted here at C-C.

There is another puff piece about Covington and his trashy novels by Connelly at TOO from 2011 with 393 comments, many unfavorable as I recall, but comments are not only closed under that one, but, unfortunately, unavailable.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:01 pm


C.E., Deb responded and thanked you for your link to Kevin's "Death of a Con Man" at NV. If she and others will read that, it should be "case closed!" But we know that it will not be closed, judging from the article praising Tubbo's fiction and the comments below it. It's like you wrote: "their heads are somewhere besides on their shoulders." Such is the state of the greater so-called "WN" movement.


Deb: August 27, 2023 at 5:56 pm
C.E.

I appreciate your opinion and the link to the article in NV. I believe a Covington “can of worms” has been opened as it has certainly resulted in varied discourse. I will continue my quest to find out more about the man.

Deb

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August 28, 2023 at 7:50 pm
We racial nationalists are in the truth business, Deb. We despise lies and liars. I’m unable to post links here, but carefully follow the one Mr. Whiteoak was able put up above from National Vanguard, and the one imbedded shortly down from the beginning of Mr. Strom’s article, to “Setting the Record Straight,” and you’ll find everything you need to know about the nefarious enemy of our noble cause, fiction writer “Big Lie” Covington.

Bottom line: character counts.

I just revisited that article and found below it this long-lost piece by the highly respected British nationalist leader, John Tyndall, about Covington:



ENTER THE MYSTERIOUS
MR. COVINGTON


In our investigations into people with contacts with Combat 18 one name kept on cropping up again and again. This was an American called Harold Covington, who was found residing in Britain for a while some years ago and was closely involved with a number of people from whose rands C18 emerged. It has even been suggested that he was C18’s founder. Mr. Covington’s political ideas closely parallelled those being peddled by C18 today.

It seems that at that time he was doing a lot of jetting around the world while pleading poverty to his supporters. It was a matter of interest to us that Mr. Covington was able to stay in this country for some while, while having no trouble with immigration authorities as an “undesirable” — a hospitality not extended to revisionist Fred Leuchter, as many of our readers will recall.

I happened to meet Harold Covington when he called at my home back sometime around 1981. I certainly found him to be intelligent, though there was something about the man’s personality that told me I should be on my guard. I did not think very much more about him until the C18 business forced us to take a further look at him.

I promptly did some writing and telephoning to my numerous friends and contacts in the United States to see what they could tell me about Mr. Covington. The picture that emerged only deepened my suspicions concerning his liaison with people over here.

Covington, I learned, had built for himself a notorious reputation throughout the racial movement in America as a catalyst of internal conflict, distrust and division. He made a specialty out of condemning some of the leading activators of the American Right, either just by disparaging their efforts as being of no value or by going yet further and blackening their characters with highly personalized smears. He spent a great deal of time sending circulars to people all around the world the contents of which were occupied with attacks made more on fellow racial nationalists than on our common political enemies. This latter I could confirm because one or two of these circulars had been posted to me. One leader of the movement in the US whom I know personally and whose judgement I greatly respect told me he thought it very likely that Covington had for some years been working for the FBI, though I have no way of proving or disproving this.

What is known is that Combat 18 had for a while used an American contact address for some of its literature so as to get around Britain’s draconian race laws. This address, when traced, turned out to be one supplied by Harold Covington. If my American contact’s theory about Covington’s connections are correct, it would mean that large numbers of people in Britain who have written off to his mailing address in response to C18 literature would have had their names and addresses passed on straight away to the FBI, who would in turn have supplied them to the political police in this country, whether MI5, Special Branch or both…
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:41 pm

I've also posted my latest C-C comment, below, to the GL ROCKWELL COMICS topic here at WB where the actual link to Hadding's piece on the murder of Rockwell appears, supplied by volker zorn, without my having to use subterfuge steer C-C readers to it.

Some will say I waste my time telling the truth about Covington, but if I don't tell newbies about him as an expert on the SOB, who else will? A lie left unrefuted has a tendency to eventually be accepted as truth.

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Will Williams: August 30, 2023 at 2:06 pm
jack ryan od: Harold Covington was our best writer and a damn good teacher…

Here’s a video I made of H Covington’s excellent talk “Who Was George Lincoln Rockwell”… -J Ryan OD, TPC Radio Show

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“Our” best writer? I don’t know who “our” could be, but it doesn’t say much for your TPC Radio Show if y’all consider Covington to be your best writer and teacher. Or maybe you just haven’t read any other writers?

I’ll pass on your video of Covington’s “excellent” talk, thanks, but since you mention that it’s about GLR, you and your radio listeners may want further insight into who Commander Rockwell was and his assassination, from an honest writer and researcher on the subject, here: noncounterproductivedotflawlesslogicdotcomforwardslasharchiveforwardslash.

I must write the link like that because for some reason I’m unable to put the actual link here at C-C in a comment.

The piece is titled “On the Murder of George Lincoln Rockwell” in Hadding Scott’s “Setting the Record Straight.” Google Jews had removed Hadding’s valuable blog, but Kevin Strom managed to salvage it and put back up on flawlesslogicdotcom. If you can figure out how to reach the archive there from what I wrote, you will find at least a couple of dozen truthful testimonies from those who unfavorably interacted with your Mr. Covington. After reading a few of those you may want to reconsider the praise you heap on your “best writer and damned good teacher.”
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Post by Will Williams » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:40 pm

I was pleased to see our Mr. Mercer put up a comment last week at C-C, here: https://counter-currents.com/2023/08/ho ... r-anthony/

Douglas Mercer: August 22, 2023
Oliver Anthony: We are the melting pot of the world. – Bing video
Will Williams: September 1, 2023
It’s too bad the link to that 44-second Bing video can’t be put up here at C-C. Thanks, Mr. Mercer, for posting that to WhiteBiocentrism.com where I was able to view it. (See here: viewtopic.php?p=26474#p26474 Douglas Mercer wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:52 pm https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ol ... &FORM=VIRE).

What an idiot this Oliver Anthony, “country music star,” is. So what if he’s number one on Jew-owned Billboard? In that one short Bing video he claims, yes, that “America is great because we are the melting pot” and “it’s our diversity that makes us strong.” His manager is quoted as saying, “God has chosen to speak through Oliver.” Really? Which god is that, Yahweh?

Oliver — no relation to Revilo P — is followed in that short Bing video by the bigger idiot, “Alzheimer Joe” Biden, boasting for the camera that Caucasians like him will soon be an absolute minority in America. Boasting! That was a clip from a C-SPAN feature entitled “Fighting Terrorism” in which Joe is flanked by his Jew Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:53 pm

I've been too busy lately to check in over at Counter-Currents but did so tonight, thinking there may be something there about the current war in Palestine. Sure enough, there is an article by a Spencer Quinn, so I weighed in and promoted two articles from NV: https://counter-currents.com/2023/10/it ... nt-1812908

Will WilliamsOctober 10, 2023 at 6:36 pm
It’s great to see the polarization revealed in comments under this article. I’m siding with the Palestinians against the occupying enemy and their collaborators, and hope they continue to inspire and embolden their neighbors in Egypt, Lebanon and Syria to join in the game while the getting is good. So what if Iran goes nuclear? Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades.

Starving the hapless Gazan refugees, denying them water, fuel and electricity prior to invading them with hundreds of thousands of citizen soldiers is a war crime that will backfire Little Satan and eventually on the Big Satan that supports that “shitty little nation” unconditionally.

One question: Of the alleged dozen Americans who have been killed in Palestine in the past four days how many are Jews/dual citizens? Media know: spit it out. Some may be dimwitted Christian evangelicals who may as well be Jews; it’s doubtful however that any are thoughtful, perceptive Whites who grasp the JQ like some here at C-C do.

I advise all Whites to read William Pierce’s eye-opening “The Big Lie” on NationalVanguard.com (NV), written 22 years ago, for the true history of Palestine and its people during the 20th century, not the Jew version. Learn about the feared Palestinian freedom fighter Abu Nidal. Our resistance movement should have such men. The eloquent David Sims’s “Understanding Hamas vs. Israel,” published today, 10/10, also at NV, should be required reading for every racially conscious White.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:15 pm

Found this today at C-C and was compelled to keep things there halfway honest: https://counter-currents.com/2023/09/th ... art-three/

Part 1 where I had commented: https://counter-currents.com/2023/08/th ... -part-one/ I see no need to read Part 2.


Will Williams October 11, 2023 at 4:05 pm
I hadn’t realized Mr. Clark’s fawning piece on the despised fraud had continued, but caught this Part 3 in C-C’s “Paroled from the Paywall” section. I had my say in comments under Part 1 so won’t beat a dead horse except to point out again where much of Tubbington’s rap sheet has been preserved, after Google Jews removed the blogspot Setting the Record Straight soon after his death: https://noncounterproductive.flawlesslogic.com/

One comment in part 3 caught my eye:

There was a lot of grumbling among readers over Covington’s choice of the name Hunter Wallace for the depraved President, as it is the nom de plume of Bradley Dean Griffin, the head of the website Occidental Dissent, but I think there is an explanation for it aside from pure malevolence. It is simply a good name…

That’s a good one. Mr. Griffin may have something to say about that. Malevolence had something to do with his choice of that name once Griffin, writing as Hunter Wallace, began exposing the fraud.

As Covington’s proofreader and confident, Mr. Clark never felt the sting of his favorite fiction writer’s poison pen. I certainly did and prevailed in my defamation lawsuit against him in 1996-’98 after he had made numerous outrageous claims against me, including that I was a deep cover FBI Special Agent and Tim McVeigh’s handler.

He once named one of his fictional characters Will White Williams. I believe it was in his Fire & Rain. Williams was a Negro, eventually killed by a Jew, or the other way around. I never read any of his trashy novels and forget which. Believe me, there was pure malevolence in that choice, not just because mine is a good name. He never dreamed he would be sued for libel until after he had screwed up and made one too many outrageous claims to his suckers, represented as non-fiction in his newsletters.
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Post by Will Williams » Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:16 pm

We mailed the September BULLETIN Tuesday and I returned from my trip to West Virginia so checked in at C-C today to find more about the war in Palestine, written by C-C owner Greg Johnson, with 95 comments, so lots of White eyes: https://counter-currents.com/2023/10/pa ... ews-again/
Will Williams October 14, 2023 at 2:01 pm
Mike Peinovich of The Right Stuff took it personally when I told a commenter who was playing exterminationist games to “go back to TRS.”
Greg, I didn’t know what you were referring to with TRS in your first article about the Palestinian war. Thanks for clearing that up in your note here.

[Someone] scolded his employee Mike on TRS for attending a meeting of the Northwest Forum in 2017 or 2018. Mike pleaded that he didn’t know at the time that TRS was “bigger”… You can’t be friends or colleagues or comrades with people like that…


No kidding. Bigger is not better. Right is might.

After all, [Peinovich] is a podcaster. He’s a political commentator. Talk is his business. Indeed, in the time it took to peck out his reply to me, he could have [written something that racially conscious Whites care about].


I don’t listen to podcasts unless one is recommended to me by someone I respect. I’ve certainly never listened to Peinovich aka Enoch and was warned about him years ago. Members of the National Justice Party (NJP) have attacked the National Alliance, of which I am Chairman; their claims and accusations shed like water off a duck’s back.

A little research about Peinovich, for what it’s worth, tells more about him than that he was dense enough to try and win favor with the fraud Harold Covington’s bogus Northwest Front. See here about Mike’s Jew connections: (167) Mike Enoch (Mike Peinovich) of TRS and National Justice Party admitted to being “a mixed Jewish person”, AKA a Jew – White Biocentrism

Like I commented earlier, I’m pulling for the Palestinians against Jewry and am pleased to see how sympathy for their cause has spread far beyond where Jewry expected it end. It turns out nobody likes Jews, even at Harvard college of all places.

The National Alliance, a strictly racial separatist organization for eligible Whites, rejects labels like supremacist or exterminationist and others that are used to describe us. I’ll never call myself or my organization identitarian new right, or whatever.

Whatever happened to the alt-right that Peinovich and others of his ilk identified with? It was so promising on social media and with podcasters.

Lots of interesting comments here. Wasn’t expecting to see my old nemesis Pastor Lindstadt weighing in with his nutty double seed-line CI biblical nonsense, Thanks to John Morgan for his level-headed analysis.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:42 am

It's good that WB has become such an active forum, thanks in large part to the postings by Douglas Mercer. But I had to go to page five to find this thread and the comment I'd made on 14 October. Now it is the morning of 18 October and I just added the comment below, invoking my right to reply, to show those here at WB how I've been using Counter-Currents to promote our Alliance to the like-minded few who gather there. After all, this is a function of WB's Activism and Alliance-Building section: to share how we reach out to Whites to educate them about our Alliance: https://counter-currents.com/2023/10/pa ... nt-1813505

Will Williams October 18, 2023 at 8:13 am
Because, Greg, like Mad Dog says, he’s a medical doctor.

Since I am mentioned by him in his double seed line rant on C-C I’ll correct his claim here for the record.

Yes, as National Alliance Chairman, I did convey in a 1031 tax transfer the back portion of The Land Pierce purchased in 1985. With the proceeds from that sale (for an amount higher than Mad Dog claims) the Alliance purchased 55 acres in Upper East Tennessee, where I have resided for 30-plus years. That WV parcel that was sold to a neighbor was the steep side of the mountain in the back of the property, unimproved, non-income producing, that had recently been timbered by my predecessor.

NA still owns and occupies 80-plus acres of The Land that Pierce purchased — the improved front portion, electrified (telephones/computers) with interior roads, three residences, motor pool, wells, septic systems and four large two-story buildings that were constructed during the Pierce era.

For a more accurate picture of the 50-year-old, real world National Alliance than Lindstadt’s ridiculous “Elohim City for CreaTards,” see here: Inside Today’s National Alliance | National Vanguard.
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Post by Will Williams » Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:12 am

It has been a couple of weeks since I checked in over at C-C, but this morning I found this article: https://counter-currents.com/2023/11/is ... r-horizon/ and replied to a comment under it by a Mr. RockaBoatus:

Will Williams
November 3, 2023
The stranglehold that Israel has over this once great country staggers the mind, and it should be obvious to anyone even halfway perceptive…[and] serves to show just how wide and deep Jewish propaganda goes… but the level of comfort, wealth and entertainment in the United States has seemingly lulled most Americans to sleep.
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Aljazeera reminds us: The US has given Israel more military assistance than any other country since World War II, providing aid worth more than $124bn.

Those of us who can’t help but pull for the Palestinian underdog against the U.S.-backed, shitty little Jewish state, should keep in mind what Wolf Stoner tells us here: The World War Is Coming | National Vanguard [https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/10/th ... is-coming/]

…By the way: Wrong-headed as this is, Jews are perceived as White by most non-Whites. They rarely make any distinction. Therefore, all Jewish atrocities are automatically ascribed to Whites. The monomaniacal stupidity of the White American conservative crowd’s support for Israel greatly facilitates this misperception. How on Earth can we expect that Palestinians would see much of a difference between Jews and Whites while millions of brainwashed Whites clamor for unending, unthinking, no-questions asked, essentially infinite support of Israel, and apparently willingly send their sons to die for the Jewish state? Look, for example, on Shabbos goys General Jack Keane and Mike Pompeo, who regularly appear on Fox News. It’s hardly an exaggeration to say that they are ready to tear to pieces anyone who even dislikes Israel. These White dogs greatly facilitate the Jews’ trick of hiding behind Whites when faced with the wrath of non-Whites….


Ah! Fox News, the TV channel still favored by wrong-headed White “conservatives,” who are lulled asleep by Jewish propaganda, as their primary source for news. I noticed the major sponsor on that network, the Fellowship of Christians and Jews scam, has taken advantage of the current flare-up among Israelis and her neighbors to raise the suggested donation from Christian Zionists to support suffering Israelis to $45. Until now FCJ was begging just a $25 donation on Fox to help feed “starving Holocaust survivors” in Russia and Ukraine.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:03 pm

The comment I made the day before yesterday drew a question from Fred C. Dobbs yesterday, so I replied to him, below.

Another commentator there, Dan, put up this encouraging post, mentioning Dr. Pierce, after my first one:


Dan: November 3, 2023 at 10:33 am
One things become abundantly clear – the U.S public owe George L Rockwell , Dr W.L Pierce & David Duke a major apology
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What is not abundantly clear to Dan is that the still greatly monolithic pro-Israeli U.S. herd will remain Judaized and remain pro-Israel for the immediate future. But, as our KAS points out below in this week's ADV, the Jews' masks are slipping as they've overplayed their hand in crushing the disadvantaged Hamas freedom fighters.

Will Williams November 5, 2023 at 10:31 am
Fred C. Dobbs:
Does that charity ever do anything for Christians?
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I don’t know, Fred, but knowing how the Tribe deceives and exploits their superstitious and gullible evangelical Christian goyim, it’s doubtful, You can research the IFCJ scam yourself.

However, earlier this year even the Jew-controlled Washington Post and JTA investigated the possibility of fraud by IFCJ prior to the current Semite v. Semite war in Palestine: Criticism of prominent rabbi’s salary may have been erased from the internet due to fraud, investigation claims – Jewish Telegraphic Agency (jta.org)
(JTA) — Did someone associated with the late Rabbi Yehiel Eckstein’s nonprofit pay a company to remove criticism of his and his daughter’s salaries from the internet?

That’s the question being raised by a recent Washington Post investigation into the allegedly fraudulent activities of a firm that launders clients’ online reputations.

The large [billion-dollar] organization Rabbi Eckstein founded [now run by his daughter], the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, raises funds from evangelical Christians and other donors for impoverished Jews. It also facilitates Jewish emigration to Israel, including from Ukraine.…

That admission should help to answer your question, Fred. As for proof that Jews pay goyim to support Jewry and “launder Jews’ online reputations,” check out this week’s American Dissident Voices broadcast, here: Their Masks Are Falling | National Vanguard
…To all my friends and fellow National Alliance members and supporters, and Cosmotheists around the world: Take heart. Our enemies are exposing their true malevolent and evil nature more and more every day. They always go too far; they cannot help themselves. Their mask is falling. They are far from invincible. Their masquerade as “innocent victims” is believed by fewer and fewer people all the time. The seeds we have planted in the minds of our kinsmen for decades are taking root. The enemy’s great skill of pretending to be “one of us” is failing them, as more and more Europeans and Americans see them for what they are, a particularly dangerous kind of alien. Keep on doing what you’re doing. It’s working. If you haven’t done enough, make up for it by quadrupling your efforts and support right now.
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