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[Will Williams]

Guest asks why wealthy Whites do not support our noble cause. I respond from my experience: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/our-sacred-honor/



Will Williams: November 21, 2025 at 5:06 pm

Guest: November 18, 2025 In Western Europe and America, there are literally millions of very wealthy white people who are not dependent on employment. These people do not have to worry about being canceled. Among them, there are still many descendants of aristocratic or upper bourgeois families whose ancestors participated in the building of European nation states and European culture when it was at its peak in the past. But for “some reason,” only a tiny number of brave individuals from this class—you can count them on the fingers of one hand—openly profess white nationalism. Even those who secretly support our movement are apparently very few. What does this tell us about the white elite and about Whites in general? …

The reasons our moneyed Whites sit on their wallets rather than support those of us that they know full well represent their interests: GREED or COWARDICE, or both.

[Will Williams]

Ridiculous formatting difficulty formatting here at WB, like highlighting, and cutting and pasting from C-C, but the reader can get the gist of my comment (that Adrian has "liked.": https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/kn ... people-do/




Will Williams: 21, 2025

Adrian Roberts: November 21, 2025 I refuse to acknowledge a jew as an authority on what the English think or feel.
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That’s the proper attitude, Adrian. Serious White separatists/preservationists have no need whatsoever of a Jew’s opinion on anything. We must separate not just from members of their Tribe, but from negative influences by them that have impacted on our kinsmen throughout history to present day.

[Will Williams]

Ultrarightist has it right about Trans freaks: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/de ... ex-brains/




Will Williams: November 21, 2025

Ultrarightist: November 21, 2025 H.L. Mencken once wrote that the apotheosis of American democracy would the election of a literal idiot as president. Likewise, the apotheosis of the liberal (dis)order is the deification of mental illness. Transgenderism should have no place in the future White ethnostate, which should treat it like the abomination it truly is.
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Thanks, Mencken was a White man ahead of his time. A sample of his writing, here: “Mencken on Abraham Lincoln” at nationalvanguard.org

Since transgenderism was hardly an issue when William Pierce died in 2002, he did not include them in with the other LQB freaks as ineligible to be National Alliance members. As his successor as NA Chairman I have since added them as not eligible to be counted in our ranks, Our members like it like that. They have their community; we have ours, free of them.

[Will Williams]

I got to talk with Mr. Orwoll and his associates at the AmRen thing, His intentional White community in the Ozarks is similar to NA's in Upper East Tennessee, but considerably different. Regardless, we look forward to meeting again and trading notes as allies: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/am ... whiteness/



Will Williams: November 22, 2025

Jeff Costello, describing Jared’s talk:... The hope is that we can start making parts of the US our own. What can save us is an approach that is bottom-up, not top-down. We need a grassroots movement of whites determined to form communities for white
…[Speaker Erik] Orwoll ended his talk by making a simple but profound point: the purpose of white identitarianism is white community… To move in this direction, Orwoll noted that we will need to become more collectivistic in our thinking, more focused on the good of the whole, and less individualistic. The same cultural or moral shift Taylor spoke about would be necessary. In my own mind, I wonder if this shift is possible for us, the most individualistic people who have ever lived. Perhaps it is possible for a small number…

…For many years, those in our movement have called for us to actually do something to build white spaces – something beyond holding meetings, writing books and articles, and podcasting. Eric Orwoll is doing something, and we wish him all the best, for surely he is in for a fight.

Mr. Costello expresses his doubts about Whites organizing at the community level. Of course Erik & Co. are in for a fight, and not a symmetric fight — with Jew-controlled opposition having the big battalions. But they are doing something and correctly, from the bottom up, not top down.

Someone sent me a video by an AmRen attendee, Emil Cosman, a Romanian living in America: https://youtu.be/cZJOACAHtWg?si=l6bEjm30-MIbSfwY. I do not know him or why he was invited to the conference. He badmouths AmRen and the entire American “movement” but offers no better solution. Judging from the comments below Emil’s video it appears to be typical social media crap.

[Will Williams]

Ondrej and some of the commenters under his essay are naive and not very realistic: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/ho ... -movement/
For some reason formatting has become impossible on WB when trying to repost a C-C comment here. Maybe it'll self-correct?

Technomad: November 22, 2025 Harold Covington talked about this problem in one of his blog posts.
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Who gives a shit what Harold “the rabbi” Covington scribbled? It’s hard to believe some at C-C would still care about what he had to say, especially on a subject about attracting White females to our cause. Here’s a eulogy: “Death of a Con Man” at nationalvanguard,org

…Covington claimed that Dr. Pierce was a “federal informant,” that the National Alliance was a “scam” designed to help Dr. Pierce “retire on hundreds of rolling acres in West Virginia,” and made many other false, harmful, and unsubstantiated claims — all made up out of whole cloth, like nearly all his accusations.

Covington falsely claimed that the founder of the Church of the Creator, Ben Klassen, whom my friend Will Williams knew well, was a secret Jew and homosexual who would lure young skinheads into his church, rape them, and then murder them with impunity to hush them up. Ask yourself what kind of a man would create, publish, and publicize such lies.

Covington publicly accused Will Williams not only of being an FBI agent, but also of being “John Doe Number Two” in the Oklahoma City bombing case. Williams took him to court over that and won a significant judgement — the only one of Covington’s victims to do so, to my knowledge.

One could write a fair-sized book debunking all the lies and forgeries Harold Covington has committed, many of them obviously designed to sow discord and distrust among those fighting for the only cause worth fighting for. Some of them are very well documented here by Hadding Scott: https://noncounterproductive.flawlesslogic.com/

Ondrej: ... Perhaps it would be worthwhile to write more about other role models for women. Do we know what a typical WN woman should be like? Have we ever thought about it? Do women have a WN role model they can emulate? Who would that be? For WN men, it’s clear—Martin Sellner, The Golden One, maybe Robert Rundo or Thomas Rousseau. This topic could be covered by female writers on CC. I myself would be interested in this. Women also want to be treated as human beings, which apparently does not even occur to some people in the male-dominated environment that is white nationalist activism…

—Another way to appeal to women, both as activists and generally, is to stop crying….

Crying? WTF are you talking about, Ondrej? Ours is an aristocratic, masculine cause. White females will follow our best men, not the other way around.

I’ve never even heard of the four men you name as role models for “WN” men. Don’t tell me, let me guess: They are big on social media. Serious White racial nationalists, men and women, would do better to familiarize themselves with the teachings of William Pierce than with those you name above. One article of his from a quarter century ago is good for starters: “Subverting Freedom” at nationalvanguard.org

…. When I’ve talked about this subject in the past, I’ve characterized the freedom-lovers as masculine and the security-lovers as feminine because under natural conditions men are a bit more willing to take chances and try new things and want to keep their options open, and they also are a bit more concerned with general principles, and women are a bit more concerned with the security of home and hearth — which is not to say, of course, that even the most adventurous and principled man has no concern for security or comfort or that even the most home-oriented woman has no concern for principles. It’s just that on the average men are more freedom oriented, and women are more security-and-comfort oriented….

… Really, I have had women — and men too — seriously defend the notion that freedom of speech needs to be balanced against comfort, in the form of freedom from feeling bad because of some “insensitive” remark by another person. These couch potato and soccer-mom types will argue, “Well, yes, we have freedom of speech, and that’s important, but we can’t have people saying or writing things that offend other people, things that hurt the feelings of other people.”

For the most part, this is just simpleminded “feel-goodism.” These soccer moms and couch potatoes just have very fuzzy notions about concepts such as freedom, and they’ve absorbed from TV the belief that there really is a “right” to feel good about oneself. Imagine where we’d be today if the Americans at Valley Forge in the winter of 1778 had believed that they had a “right” to be comfortable, and that “right” was as important as the right to be free from domination by a foreign government. In the last couple of centuries we have not only become softer physically and morally, but we’ve become a bit soft in the head as well…

Read more at the link about the perils of the feminization of our race. Pierce goes on to name our enemy: Jews are our misfortune.

Our women should concentrate on raising the next generation of White warriors and leave the difficult fighting of our racial enemies to their men.

[Will Williams]

Our females will either be attracted to National Alliance material or they will not be. We don't compromise on our truths, or "sugar coat" them, as a member I met for the first time at the AmRen thing last weekend told me what attracted him to NA. Intelligent women with good racial instincts can have the same attraction to our truths. No sugar coating to attract warm bodies: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/ho ... -movement/



Will Williams: November 23, 2025 at 1:10

Skanna: November 22, 2025 I think the biggest turn off for intelligent women coming to this movement is the the sort of old school sexism that some right wing men have. Wanting to confine women to the home, to strict roles. Controlling them, having an arrogant, patronising demeanor. I don’t want to sound like a feminist, but that sort of thing will keep a lot of women away.
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Sorry, Miss Skanna, but you are sounding like a feminist. Forget “some right-wing men.” Our cause of White preservation does encourage traditional roles for our females during their child-bearing years — that’s Nature’s way. That is not “confining” or “sexist,” or “controlling.” Those are feminist terms.

Our men and women must be working together, not divided as they currently are. 36 years ago Dr. Pierce told his National Alliance members what it takes to bring not just W“hite females into our camp but our men. You may disagree with what he says here, but others may see the wisdom in what he advised: "How to Recruit Whites to Our Cause: First, Change Yourself” at nationalvanguard.org

…Don’t think about the difficulties involved in fighting our enemies. Instead gloat over the difficulties they are facing in trying to keep their endeavor afloat. Think about the fact that no matter what we do or don’t do, our enemies cannot win in the long run. They have thoroughly wrecked our world, but they are incapable of building a workable world to replace it. The latter task belongs to us and us alone, because only our worldview is based on a true understanding of man and Nature. We mustn’t cry over spilled milk or become obsessed with the damage they will do in the future. Instead, we must promise ourselves that when scores are settled we will utterly destroy them and every influence they have had on our people, so that they will never again have a chance to spread their evil. Until then we can let them do most of our work for us. We will help them multiply their own difficulties while we build our strength. We are engaged in a race war to the death, and setbacks and hardship are inevitable, but whereas our enemies are in an untenable position and cannot possibly win (though they may destroy us along with themselves if we let them), we need only to continue growing and surviving. Compared to their position now, ours is enviable indeed.

Always remember, the tide is flowing in our favor. While we grow stronger each year, they can only make a worse and worse mess of things. This mess will take its toll on innocents, and that is unfortunate, but in the end it will be our enemies’ undoing.

Think of all these things. Meditate on them. Talk about them with friends, if that helps. Let these considerations sweep away every trace of pessimism and defeatism in you and replace it with the certainty that we will win, no matter how long it takes and no matter what we must do. Understand this clearly and believe it strongly, and those you are trying to recruit will feel it. Then you will be successful in your recruiting.

Count your kinsmen friends, not your enemies and their white (lower case) collaborators.

[Will Williams]

Introducing more wisdom on the subject by past pro-White leaders: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/ho ... -movement/



Will Williams: November 23, 2025 Ondrej is not the first to address this important question. Ben Klassen wrote about it 54 years ago in his first book, Nature’s Eternal Religion, found here as: “Ben Klassen on Marriage” at Nationalvanguard.org

Populate the world by Ben Klassen

NATURE’S PATTERN for most living things can be briefly summarized as follows: birth, growth, reproduction and death. This is the pattern Nature has ordained for all its living creatures, whether it be the lowliest insect that lives but a day, or the highest order of man himself, who might live his span of three score and ten years. Nature has not meant for any individual of any species to live for long. No indeed, each individual merely plays its role in being the present link in the long golden chain of its own species. It is Nature’s intention that the species should live on and on. However, the species itself, unless it is vigorous in its fight for survival, will eventually end in extinction. Some species that have adapted themselves well to their environment and in the fight for survival, have lasted for millions of years. In fact, the shark family has existed for at least two hundred million years without undergoing any great changes, a tribute to its marvelous ability to survive. Compare two hundred million years to the short interval that any particular individual of that species exists upon this planet. (ILLUSTRATION: Ben Klassen with his lifelong spouse Henri)

It is also thus with the human race, and in particular with the White race with which we are exclusively concerned. We should remind ourselves that this is Nature’s pattern, and remind ourselves of the purpose for which Nature has placed us on this earth. Nature tells us loud and clear that that purpose is to propagate our own kind and thereby perpetuate our species. In the process of the natural selection and survival of the fittest, it tells us to keep improving our species in an ever-upward climb. Nature has never ordained eternal life for any individual, or for any generation.

No, on the contrary, death is certain, but you perpetuate yourself in your children and in the generations that follow. This is the real immortality Nature has in store for you…
Read more of Klassen on the subject at the link. Putting ‘marriage’ in the search block at NV brings up more common-sense wisdom, like this 1982 article from the WUNS:

“Ten Commandments for the Selection of a Marriage Partner” at nationalvanguard.org

It is not necessary for us to reinvent the wheel.

[Will Williams]

I'm no fan of Morris van de Camp since he reviewed Dr. Pierce's son's shameful, ghost-written-by-Jews book, smearing Dr. Pierce, calling it enlightening " https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/th ... ld-war-ii/ However, I can still thank him for a revealing quote from a nigger enemy.



Will Williams: November 24, 2025 Thank you for this bullshit quote by O.J’s anti-White defense attorney, Morris.

…there was another man not too long ago in the world who had [the same views as Fuhrman], who wanted to burn people, who had racist views and ultimately had power over people in his country. People didn’t care. People said he’s just crazy. He’s just a half-baked painter. And they didn’t do anything about it. This man, this scourge became one of the worst people in the world, Adolf Hitler, because people didn’t care, didn’t try to stop him. Fuhrman wants to take all black people now and burn them or bomb them, that’s genocidal racism.

Hitler was right. His NS cause lives on because it is pro-White and anti-Jew.

[Will Williams]

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Who should care what a Negro tells supposedly serious Whites about what some Jewish gossip has to say about race-mixing VP Vance?: https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/a- ... ther-name/


Will Williams: November 25, 2025

Beau Albrecht: November 25, 2025 Just curious – was Sloan Rachmuth born female? It’s really hard to tell from the picture, very puzzling.]
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It’s not so puzzling, Beau. Though Sloan is blonde in the tiny photo, Lip Man tells us she’s a religious Jew. I say she’s a racial Jew and don’t care about her Internet gossip about race-mixer Vance, reported to us by the racial Negro. Let’s get the discussion back on preservation of the White race, led by White separatists/preservationists.


Lip Man: … -i][Sloan Rachmuth’s] religious identityhad nothing to do with the situation until her allies dragged it into the conversation. Being Jewish does not… shield her from scrutiny. The introduction of her identity is a distraction intended to drown the [racial] issue in emotional rhetoric…Blah, blah, blah.

[Will Williams]

Should Cosmotheist Books reissue this two-part essay by Bardamu in booklet form? I think so, if it is in the public domain. https://counter-currents.com/2025/11/co ... e-friends/

Meanwhile, our people should read both parts at the NV links provided.




Will Williams: November 26, 2025

Uncle Semantic, responded to my mention of Bardamu: November 14, 2025 Bardamu? Haven’t read Journey or Installment Plan but Celine’s Trifles For A Massacre is a nuclear storm of ferocious animal antisemitism at its finest. I’m shocked it’s not globally banned.
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WW: A favorite subject, I emphatically say no, Christianity is not compatible with White racial nationalism. The interview talked all around the question, even saying that our people need religion, but they will not admit that Cosmotheism is a much superior belief system for Whites than is Christianity that worships our enemy’s mythical tribal god. How stupid can that be?

There is so much written by our best race-thinkers that Christianity is unsuitable for preservation-minded Whites, no compromise! The question must be addressed once and for all! You can be in the Christian camp or in the White preservationist camp but not in both. They are opposed ideologies.

Here is one article that gets to the meat of the issue: “Why Europeans Must Reject Christianity: Part I” at nationalvanguard.org by Ferdinand Bardamu

IF ALL WESTERN SCIENCE and technology were to disappear overnight, the church would not be affected in the slightest; what matters is that the preaching of the gospel continues without pause, nothing else. Christianity and racialism are fundamentally incompatible ideologies….

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Searching on C-C for ‘bardamu’ reveals he has been discussed several times previously here over the years. Bardamu’s “Why Europeans Must Reject Christianity: Part II” at nationalvanguard.org should be required reading for those Whites who are interested in the question of Christianity’s incompatibility with racial nationalism.

… Christianity undermines group survival by suppressing natural ethnocentric tendencies and maximizing the spread of dysgenic traits. Christianity provides no effective barrier to the cultural and genetic assimilation of Europeans by surrounding non-white populations; for example, during the Spanish and Portuguese colonization of the Americas in the 16th and 17th centuries, the Roman Catholic Church aggressively promoted miscegenation among the conquistadores. Ecclesiastical officials encouraged the European colonists to marry and interbreed with their native Indian and African concubines. This resulted in large-scale demographic genocide, which replaced European genetic homogeneity with mestizaje.

That Christianity is a non-ethnocentric ideology based on moral universalism is another serious problem with the religion. Europeans will always champion the interests of hostile outgroups at the expense of fellow Europeans in the name of Christian love and brotherhood. Christianity also opposes the high aggressiveness directed towards outgroup members; instead, believers are expected to practice nonviolence and compassion in the face of demographic replacement. Lastly, Christianity is militantly anti-eugenic, which is why it allows weaklings to survive and reproduce. This has decreased average IQ and the prevalence of other beneficial traits in European societies. In short, Christianity does not function as a group evolutionary strategy for Europeans, but as a recipe for racial and cultural suicide on a massive scale….

If Bardamu’s two-part essay is not already available in print, Cosmotheist Books will consider republishing it in booklet form for distribution to be studied by young Whites who’ve had their heads packed with Christian nonsense in their Sunday schools.