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[Will Williams]

I just saw this comment from Joe from a week ago, but try to respond to comments directed to me: https://counter-currents.com/2025/01/fi ... isemitism/ My friends and I have one anothers' backs, something I do not expect from folks at Counter-Currents who are mostly anonymous.


Will Williams: February 2, 2025

Joe Gould: January 25, 2025 Counter-Currents is more than nominally pro-White. Greg Johnson acknowledges White genocide and opposes it…

Taking our own side means that we Whites should all be pro-White in a firm, clear and racial sense. Those who support this are rightly guided and should be friends. Those who reject this are far from the truth and far from wise.

Since you and the National Alliance support taking our own side in the necessary racial and pro-White sense, Will Williams, long life and good health to you.
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I appreciate that, Joe. To me, most on C-C are anonymous so cannot be considered my “friends” much more than folks have Faceberg "friends." But at least we’re race loyalists and on the right side to some degree. I must say that those unwise Whites that would reject loyalty to our race and our biological truths must never darken our councils.

[Will Williams]

People may remember the cartoon Popeye the Sailorman that featured the character Wimpy, whose famous line was "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger today." Wimpy's arguments against Cosmotheism are about as serious and thought through as is his username. In other words he is out of his depth debating the subject of Cosmotheism in this important topic: https://counter-currents.com/2024/11/re ... -question/ I'll have some more fun with Wimpy since I can call up very snart men who explain Cosmotheism better than I. Who will back his goofy position?



Will Williams: February 3, 2025

Hamburger Today: January 31, 2025 Whether or not White Nationalism is a religion or not at least partially hinges on what you think ‘religion’ is (or means).

]‘Religion’ comes to us from the Latin religio, whose root is ‘-lig-‘ meaning ‘to bind’. Thus, ‘religion’ is what binds. But binds what to what? In the case of White Nationalism as a religion, ‘White Nationalism’ binds Whites to Whites via the doctrine of ‘Whites caring about Whites because they are White and no other reason‘.

As you indicate, ‘Cosmotheism’ isn’t for every White, but only ‘for the more intelligent among us’.
That doesn’t sound like a religion for Whites in general, but a cult for ‘the elect’.
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I beg your pardon, Wimp. Are you suggesting Cosmotheism is a cult?

The last individual I recall saying that was Harold “Big Lie” Covington. Are you a fan of his scribblings?

Since you like dictionary definitions, the word “cult,” in a religious sense, means: a body of beliefs and practices regarding the supernatural and the worship of one or more deities. That sounds to me more like the Semitic creeds — Judaism, Christianity and Islam — that worship the supernatural deity up in the sky, Yahweh, aka Jehovah or Allah, respectively.

For those who may be interested in the transition of an intelligent man who was a dedicated Christian for much of his life, but eventually turned his back on the Jesus cult to eventually become a Cosmotheist and National Alliance member. Our most recent edition of his Magnum Opus, is available here: Which Way Western Man? (Third Edition) by William Gayley Simpson – Cosmotheism

Wimpy, you would probably prefer this review of Simpson’s WWWM? on C-C by another very intelligent White loyalist, Dr. Revilo P. Oliver: William Gayley Simpson’s Which Way Western Man?

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White Nationalism as ‘Whites caring about Whites because they are White and no other reason‘ is the only religion – a binding Whites to each other – that Whites need. Everything flows from Whites embracing this ethos, this self-concept, this affective order of meaning.
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That’s some fancy double-talk, Wimpy, but what’s the spiritual foundation for this alleged big tent WN “religion”? Can believers follow any of the many denominations of Semitic creeds? How ’bout Satanism? Voo-doo? how do you bind them together if they are so divided by faith?

[Will Williams]

I wanted to address Mr. Hamburger Today's nonsense about the only religion Whites need is his version of White Nationalism, but with Wolf.s hard-hitting wake-up call to Whites from here at WB: https://counter-currents.com/2024/11/re ... -question/


Will Williams: February 3, 2025
I have some more to say to you, Hamburger Today, about your WN “religion.”

Hamburger Today: January 31, 2025 …White Nationalism as ‘Whites caring about Whites because they are White and no other reason‘ is the only religion – a binding Whites to each other – that Whites need…
Any part of ‘White Nationalism’ that purports to separate Whites from each other, to elevate one White over another on principle, isn’t really a White Nationalism suitable for the present task of bringing Whites together…
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Thank you for that, Wimpy. You make the case that Cosmotheism is not part of your “White Nationalism” religion because it isn’t. We Cosmotheists realize enlightened White realists, or, as you call us, “elites (thanks),” will separate ourselves not only from non-Whites, but from the mass of whites (ower case) who are racially irresponsible.

Wolf Stoner, an experienced racial nationalist and modern Cosmotheist thinker, expresses the hard facts in his recent piece: The White race versus white rats, here: (184) Words of Wolf Stoner – Page 19 – White Biocentrism An excerpt:

...First of all, we need to understand the simple truth that the present White society is doomed. There is no need to save it. On the contrary, this society is in a state that fully merits the application of the famous Nietzsche’s advice: “that which is falling should also be pushed”. In our particular case we don’t even need to exert any effort on our part. Our task is to stop trying to prevent others from destroying the failing society. Let it fall! The sooner the better. The more pain is inflicted on this decadent society the better. They fully deserve it; they earned it by their laziness, stupidity, inattentiveness and greed. For too long they tended exclusively to their own materialistic needs and supposed that they don’t owe anything to their White brethren….
We can’t do anything about it and we must not do anything. Those who chose death and self-destruction, must die. Those who don’t value their White identity, don’t deserve it. We owe nothing to them.

Now let’s look onto those Whites who are clever enough to understand the reality but too greedy and cowardly to go against the prevailing current.

There are plenty of clever Whites who occupy the key social positions and who have enough intelligence to understand simple logical chains. They see the wrong path that society goes along and they understand the treacherous nature of the ruling class but their share in society is too high to risk it. They rationalize their support of the system (to their own consciousness) by defending their own interests and caring for the future of their children. Yes, they think that they serve good for their posterity by gaining wealth even when the whole society falls. These people think that in the future, somehow, they will be able to find their way in the different social environment.

This kind of people are ultimate rats. They are clever but devoid of morality and high spiritual values. Their main task is to survive and thrive in any environment and at any cost; even if it requires betrayal of their community.

It must be acknowledged that these people are very successful in modern society. The greater part of millionaires, billionaires, professional politicians and military leadership consists of this kind. The problem with their life-philosophy is that they fail to understand that, if the whole White society collapses, there will be no place for them too. The wild non-white crowds, to whom they cater now, will devour their own benefactors as well.

These clever white rats have high enough intelligence to successfully guide their way in the stormy waters of modern society but they fail to see beyond the horizon. They don’t have eagle’s wings for this.

But the time will come when these rats will perceive the great shift and start to clamber on our ship. This problem must be addressed beforehand; it is sure to happen in the future. I can’t suggest any fool-proof solution now but only warn that it will be this way. We must not allow this kind of people to have any decent place in the future White society. The only suitable place for rats is cellar and garbage-dump, not the royal palaces and military headquarters.

The main lesson that history teaches us is that the greatest decisive battles will happen between Whites themselves.

Most probably, it is arranged this way by Providence itself. As I said, the interracial competition was already concluded long ago. Now is the fight inside the White race itself; some kind of harsh natural test of durability. The final result isn’t predetermined. It could go both ways.

If the best part of Whites wins, then, there will be civilizational rejuvenation and the prospect of further evolution. If the selfish lowly part of Whites wins, then, the civilization will collapse and be destroyed by non-white crowds.

Therefore, it isn’t so much a competition between Whites and non-whites but between different kinds of Whites.

As it is well-known from biology the internal competition in species is much more harsh than external. It is why the both world wars were so uncompromising and bloody.

The fate of the White race will be decided not in a war against aliens but in a mortal struggle against other Whites.

We must accept this reality and act accordingly. The worst thing is to fall into delusion of possible White unity and peaceful coexistence of White nations. It isn’t going to happen. The final solution of this problem will involve boundless bloodshed and extermination of incalculable millions of Whites by other Whites.

Yes, there will be wars against non-whites as well but only as a side-show….

Read more of Wolf’s reasoned prophecy of the racial struggle to come at the link.

[Douglas Mercer]

Thank you for this Will. Thought provoking and brilliant words from Wolf Stoner as always. His essays are a tonic for anyone willing to listen and to think. Ideas such as this are the fruit of the bedrock principles we hold at the National Alliance, for from these principles we unerringly extrapolate truth; they are hard and difficult truths but truths nonetheless.

[Will Williams]

Thank you for this Will. Thought provoking and brilliant words from Wolf Stoner as always. His essays are a tonic for anyone willing to listen and to think. Ideas such as this are the fruit of the bedrock principles we hold at the National Alliance, for from these principles we unerringly extrapolate truth; they are hard and difficult truths but truths nonetheless.

It's clear that you are counted as one of the Whites Wolf describes and not one of the white rats. Unfortunately, there are many at C-C who are "still on the fence." Hopefully those there who are racially conscious will, as Wolf puts it, "perceive the great shift and start to clamber on our ship." if it's not too late for them.

Reminds me of the scene in The Turner Diaries when society had broken down to where whites were clamboring desperately to escape it and a man sought refuge for himself and his family in a White redoubt. He was told his wife and kids could stay -- but he was handed a sharp-edged weapon and told to come back with the head of an enemy.

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We are now into feel good Black History Month, so can "officially" expect more bullshit lies about everything Blacks have supposed invented or accomplished. I added what Dr. Pierce had to say about this in an ADV from back in the 90's: https://countercurrents.com/2025/02/bla ... n-myths-4/ Dr. Pierce has a wonderful little hardback in his library by Rockwell titled, Contributions to Civilization by the Negro. What is so funny is that every page in the book is blank.

Will Williams: February 3, 2025

Margot Metroland: February 2, 2022 These get funnier and funnier every year. Horseshoes??
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It’s funny, but the lies being fed to impressioable White children, and the guilt imposed with these lies, even in private schools were highlighted 27 years ago by Dr. Pierce, here: Brainwashing Our Children | National Vanguard

LAST WEEK a member of the organization I head, the National Alliance, sent me something his nine-year-old daughter had brought home from school. He lives in Macon, Georgia, and his daughter is a fourth grader at a private school there. Last week her class went on a field trip to visit a Black museum in Macon and learn a bit about Black history. The museum is the federally funded Tubman African American Museum. It’s supported by our tax dollars. (ILLUSTRATION: Father Richard Keil, founder of the Tubman African American Museum)

It is named after Harriet Tubman, a Black slave who was employed by Abolitionist organizations in the North during the period just before the Civil War to induce other slaves in the South to leave their plantations and head north along the so-called “Underground Railroad.” [her ugly mug will soon replace Andrew Jackson’s portrait on the $20 bill.] The White fourth graders visiting the museum got a little sermon about the wickedness of slavery and of White people for having imposed it on Blacks. They also had a lecture on the history and accomplishments of Negroes, and each was handed a sheet headed “African American Inventor’s” (sic) listing 120 or so things supposedly invented by Blacks.

Here are the first six items on the list of Black inventions: the pyramids, paper, chess, the alphabet, medicine, and civilization.

After this start the rest of the list is a bit anticlimactic, with such items as the doorknob, the mop, the curtain rod, peanut butter, and the helicopter.

With the exception of peanut butter, which is generally credited to Black agricultural technician George Washington Carver, this list is so fantastic that most of us get a good chuckle when we read it.

But the really tragic part of this story is that, although these wild pipedreams about Blacks designing and architecting the pyramids, inventing the alphabet and the helicopter, and so on may be funny to us, they’re not funny to White fourth graders. When a museum guide, even a Black guide, or their teacher tells them that Blacks invented paper, the alphabet, and civilization, they take it all very seriously. They believe it. My member’s nine-year-old daughter believed it. She came home from school after the field trip and told her parents quite seriously that she had learned that Blacks had done just about everything worth doing in the development of our civilization, and she wondered why Whites hadn’t done anything….

[Will Williams]

Wimpy sure can be tedious, hardly worth my time to explain such a somple concept as Cosmotheism: https://counter-currents.com/2024/11/re ... -question/ We'll see if he comes back with some more of his brilliance, perhaps a 25-point list of his White nationalist belief system.


Will Williams: February 5, 2025

Hamburger Today: February 4, 2025 I’m glad you agree that ‘Cosmotheism’ doesn’t care about most Whites.
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No, Wimpy, I do not agree with that statement by you. I care about many mainstream Whites who do not understand Cosmotheism (no scare quotes, please), even Christians, but most of them are not interested in our little tent.

There must be many things that you and I can agree on, but religion is not one of them. I suspect, though, that I’m more passionate about preserving our race than you, truth be told.

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Which is why I could not embrace it. And also why it does not strike as a White Nationalist belief system.
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Where can I see the points of your White nationalist belief system listed? So far all I can tell from you is that it is a very big tent that includes all Whites, including defectives.

[Will Williams]

What a great subject: Name the Jew! (NTJ): https://counter-currents.com/2025/02/name-the-jew/ This essay shows how timid, or even traumatized some Whites can be when told the truth about Jewish suprermacy. I get to once again link to NA's Who Rules America? Though it needs updating, the facts contained in WRA? ine incontravertible.

Every Alliance activist should save and use this link when naming the Jew comes up in conversation: https://nationalvanguard.org/books/2010 ... ica-01.pdf



Will Williams: February 6, 2025

Cornelius Burroughs Tavington: February 5, 2025 NTJs aren’t created in a vacuum. I would argue the trauma of being “red-pilled” (for lack of a better term) is too much for some people..

Trauma? Really? For being exposed to an uncomfortable truth? 

I've posted the facts about Jewish control of media to C-C, but there was no response except from the idiot JayeRyanOD, that went nowhere. If others read it, perhaps they were in a state of shock? The truth about "our" mass media being controlled by Jews was just too much for them: https://nationalvanguard.org/books/2010 ... ica-01.pdf

A better term than "red-pilled" is awakened. I'd guess most regular people have no idea what you're talking about, using the esoteric term "red-pilled."  I never saw the Matrix movie, and most people probably didn't either so don't make the connection.

Plain language is preferred.  I feel the same way about the term "gas-lighting," that comes from a 1940s movie, that means manipulating an individual to have him question his sanity. For that matter, how about NTJ? How mmany regular people know what that acronym stands for? Just introduce them to "Who Rules America? Just Name The Jew and see if they are paralyzed by trauma. If they are, it's probably not worth your breath to talk further about the JQ.

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Many people who are first exposed to that issue go through a NTJ phase.
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Do they, really, a "phase"? Sounds more like cowardice to not name the Jew once a halfway racially conscious, responsible White is awakened to indisputable facts about who really rules America. Maybe that's just my opinion, being an ol' "boomer" who values truth?

[Will Williams]

More about naming the Jew, from the writer of the article, who at least partially agrees with me: https://counter-currents.com/2025/02/name-the-jew/


Will Williams: February 6, 2025

James Betony: February 6, 2025 To be clear, use of the abbreviation “NTJ” was, for the purposes of this article, something I considered a necessary short-hand, a reference to something that I’d be repeatedly referring to throughout, something that would have been tedious both for me and readers if it had to be explained at length every time (much like using “JQ” or “WN” or “NAXALT”).

That’s fair when discussing the JQ among already awakened kinsmen.

I must admit, though, I am still flommoxed when I see the esoteric acronym NAXALT.

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(To repeat: “NTJ” = one who thinks the Jews are ultimately responsible for every enemy’s anti-White actions, not just the Jews’ anti-White actions, characterized by his habit of saying “Name the Jew!” anytime anyone, for any reason, doesn’t mention Jews by name. Repeating what’s to the left of the “=” makes more sense than repeating what’s to the right of it several tens of times.)
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Now, to me, that is not fair. Jews are nowhere near responsible for all of the ills of Whites; it’s foolish for anyone to say so. Truth be known, it is almost entirely ignorance, complacency and apathy among White herd animals for their own tragic situation. When our own enlightened sub-group of racially responsible elite can reach, educate and inspire other Whites to serious activism, things can change for more to our view of the world faster. We do not have time to waste looking for the receptive few among fans of niggerball or Dancing With the Stars

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…I too have a general aversion to neologism. Personally, I never used the term “red-pilled” (though I don’t fault those who do) for the reason you referred to: I’ve never seen The Matrix and don’t intend to. For that matter, I dislike “gaslighting” very much and prefer not to use it, though sometimes do, admittedly, reluctantly but for expediency’s sake, feeling disingenuous as I do, considering I have never seen the movie that that term comes from and likely never will, either.
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It’s nice to see some agreement. You just introduced a useful new word to me. However the second definition for it is a little scary.
neologism – noun, ne·​ol·​o·​gism nē-ˈä-lə-ˌji-zəm
1: a new word, usage, or expression
2: psychology : a new word that is coined especially by a person affected with schizophrenia and is meaningless except to the coiner…

[Will Williams]

More about naming the Jew from James, who had agreed with me to some extent: https://counter-currents.com/2025/02/name-the-jew/ There's probably a reason this comment is awaiting moderation, but it will eventually go through like other comments that were moderated. If not, it is preserved here.


Will Williams: February 7, 2025 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

I’d said:…It’s nice to see some agreement. You just introduced a useful new word to me. However the second definition for it is a little scary.

neologism – noun, ne·​ol·​o·​gism nē-ˈä-lə-ˌji-zəm
1: a new word, usage, or expression
2: psychology : a new word that is coined especially by a person affected with schizophrenia and is meaningless except to the coiner…

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James Betony replied: February 6, 2025 I had never even noticed that second definition. Haha, now I’m really averse to neologisms.

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WW: “Now, to me, that is not fair. Jews are nowhere near responsible for all of the ills of Whites; it’s foolish for anyone to say so. Truth be known, it is almost entirely ignorance, complacency and apathy among White herd animals for their own tragic situation.”

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JB: 100%! That is what I was getting at with the article: We have many enemies, of which the Jews, however powerful, are but one; and we do not vanquish all the others just by getting rid of them. That’s it.

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Exactly, or almost exactly, perhaps 90%. I’m saying NTWs (name our own people), many who will never name the Jew because they actually are gullible enough and superstitious enough to unquestioningly believe that Jews are chosen by Yahweh/Jehovah, up in the sky, to rule over them because their Bibles tells them so. Once deprogrammed from that nonsense, Whites can focus on race preservation instead of on Judaized multiracial pop culture.

BTW, there was a third dictionary definition for neologism that I cut because it was wrong: “combining two words to create a new word is known as blending or portmanteau. ”

Here are some examples:”Brunch” (breakfast + lunch)
“Smog” (smoke + fog)
“Infomercial” (information + commercial)
“Spork” (spoon + fork)
“Guesstimate” (guess + estimate)

Or, “lawfare,” something I know a little about first hand (law + warfare)

[Will Williams]

Progresss! Seeing another at C-C who is unafraid of offending Christians: https://counter-currents.com/2025/02/name-the-jew/ My shortest comment yet at Counter-Currents.

Peter Quint: February 7, 2025
Christianity is the precursor whence all subversive movements and deviant behavior shelter and flourish. In the white race, it is the metaphorical equivalent of AIDS. It’s like trying to run a horse race with the horse strapped to your back.

Liked [by me]

Will Williams: February 7, 2025
“Liked” for truth and reality. Thank you, Peter.