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Devi on christianity

Post by Creedofiron » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:31 pm

"The Christian “ Weltanschauung” itself is far worse an enemy of National Socialism. It is of no use trying to hide the fact in order “not to frighten” people: one cannot be at the same time a Nazi and a Christian of any description. It is nonsense to say one can. It is wasting time to point out concrete instances of men and women who actually are. Such people are either bad Christians or bad Nazis or both; sincere but illogical people, deceiving themselves, or clever rogues, trying to deceive others.
"One only has to think five minutes to realise that a doctrine centred around race and personality cannot possibly go hand in hand with a teaching that proclaims all human souls equally precious in the eyes of a God who hates pride."
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Post by Thomas Cole » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:31 pm

Absolutely correct. Christianity is a Semitic religion that is alien to the White race and has caused/ is causing great harm. Yet, we must not forget about our misguided brethren. We must strife to carefully bring them to truth of their heritage and blood. Once they feel who they truly are, they will drop any fake believe system in a heartbeat. Adolf Hitler once pointed out that National Socialism has no need to aggressively confront the Christian superstition. Once people are offered an alternative that resonates with them, Christianity will simply fade anyway.

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Post by Grimork » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:52 am

I feel the need to aggressively confront the religion, not the Christian. I can also think of plenty of reasons why we should do so. I think I will have to agree to disagree here, Thomas.

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Post by Wolf Stoner » Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:41 am

The main problem with European Christianity is that this alien ideology is closely intertwined with European culture in all its aspects. The main task is to separate those two components. The mainstream people can’t understand intricacies of such problems; for them anything that has some Christian trappings is considered as being generically Christian. For example, Bach’s music is considered to be deeply Christian, but in reality it isn’t. It is the pure expression of White Arian spirit wrapped into Christian trappings; because it wasn’t possible to operate otherwise in 17th century. You couldn’t be simply a musician and to play organ and conduct choir in a cathedral. You needed to be the part of the Christian establishment to have access to those magnificent musical instruments. Bach is not more Christian than any Soviet firearm designer is a communist, despite of the fact that his guns bear Soviet symbology and the designer himself was a party-member. In both cases there was no other way. If you wanted to be an organ musician in Middle Age Europe, you needed to be a Christian. And if you wanted to be a gun designer in USSR you should had become a party member first. Bach had no choice except of being a Christian, therefore, we have no reason to reckon him among true Christians. First of all, he is a true White Composer and philosopher of music and we should separate his work from Christian ideology and should deny Christians their proprietary claims on Bach. The same is with all other aspects of European cultural legacy. Christianity isn’t a source of inspiration for culture (as Christians like to claim) but a parasitic entity appropriating ethnic cultural legacies to serve its globalist agenda.

Some of anti-Christians commit grave mistake of abandoning substantial part of European legacy reckoning it as Christian. They fall victims of the vile Christian narrative that all those architectural marvels, paintings, music are their inalienable property. But those are not. All those phenomena are the exclusive European racial legacy in the same way as guns and weapons designed and produced in USSR are not products of communist ideology but of Russian ethnic genius and hard work. The Christian cultural appropriation should be exposed and denied any claims to what they have absolutely no rights. The Christianity in its pure form is nothing more than Hate entertained by half-insane vagabonds to the whole world. Christianity had no culture, no logic, no high spiritual motives. The only real asset that it had was Hatred. And they were able to turn this hatred into the weapon of mass destruction. What we now see happening in Europe and other White countries is the long-term results of use of this psychological weapon. They call it Love, but we know that it is Hate. They love to hate everything and everyone that is better than them.

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Re: Devi on christianity

Post by Thomas Cole » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:28 am

At least we all agree Christianity is a cancer. We just disagree on the method of removing it.

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Post by White Man 1 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:18 pm

Bach is not more Christian than any Soviet firearm designer is a communist, despite of the fact that his guns bear Soviet symbology and the designer himself was a party-member.
Nailed it, Wolf! The European spirit resonates in all of our great achievements, despite the contrary worldview that permeates it.

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Post by BBrookshire » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:12 pm

Wolf Stoner wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:41 am
Christianity isn’t a source of inspiration for culture (as Christians like to claim) but a parasitic entity appropriating ethnic cultural legacies to serve its globalist agenda.
That is perfectly succinct right there. Excellent.
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Post by Jim Mathias » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:43 pm

Thomas Cole wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:28 am
At least we all agree Christianity is a cancer. We just disagree on the method of removing it.
Thomas, we can agree that to successfully fight a bad idea involves replacing it with a good idea. Towards that end Dr. Pierce synthesized and to an extent fleshed out Cosmotheism. Let us perform all our tasks under this life-philosophy and bring it credit with our own successes. Doing so shows the christians as part of a failing order (a dying 'Western civilization') that perhaps our order (striving for life on an upward, progressive Path) is better than theirs. Remember though, we have work to do!
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Post by Richard_G_603 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:15 pm

One of the pills I could never swallow in my Christian life despite herculean efforts to do so, only do be left struggling and gagging as it refused to go down, was the abject submission. Most Christians do not even understand the true level of prostration that the faith demands. You are to accept any and all misdeeds against you, for justice is the Lord's. You are to set aside your desires and pursue everything for the Lord, you have no right to say "I have done so and so" or "I have achieved such and such" because by christian doctrine YOU have not, Christ in you has, for you have been purchased by Jesus in his sacrifice, and your identity and new life is entirely in him, therefor ANY good you do is not to yourself, but to him.
A true understanding means that you have no right to even object to tyranical authority, be it an abusive parent, a demanding employer, or a despotic ruler, for all authority in the inverse belongs to God, and any which has authority over another has it because God has delegated/permitted/assigned some authority to that individual, and thus to rebel against that induvial is as to rebel against God. This is a major contributing reason as to why many christian denominations are pacifistic, because we have no right to fight against the authorities that have been established. I have ever heard in my former pastoral and academic circles that the american revolution was a sinful act because they had no right to go against the authority of king George.

It is truly opposed to our european spirit, to our Aryan soul. We of Europe were bred in a cauldron of war and struggle against the elements from the earliest tribal eras to less that a century or two ago. Only those who rose up with a fire in their heart and the strength in their arm and refused to yield before those and that which sought to end their bloodline succeeded. And that was refined and passed down through us. Yes we had a natural societal order and a man served his chief or his king as was his duty, but should that chief or king seek the man's death or the death of the man's family, then a greater loyalty was prioritized and he would rise to defend himself and his people as he was bred and born to do.

Christianity demands that we kneel at the least, and lay prostrate as an ideal; our Aryan soul demands that we rise with a gutteral scream ripping forth from our lungs and conquer that which seeks to conquer us, fighting and winning, claiming as our right as victor each step on the stairway from man to higher man, until we have subdued the Earth and ventured forth to do the same among the stars.

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Re: Devi on christianity

Post by fluxmaster » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:24 am

Wolf Stoner wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:41 am
The main problem with European Christianity is that this alien ideology is closely intertwined with European culture in all its aspects. The main task is to separate those two components.
I actually dealt with that issue briefly in my novel The Power of Art, Fashion, and Culture:
The European Union had expelled the Catholic Church from Europe when it had elected its first Black pope. Many of the cardinals who had voted against the Black pope decided it was time to abandon Christianity and found a new Pagan Catholic religion. They replaced the Christian gods Yahweh and Jesus with the pantheon of Pagan gods, while keeping most of the doctrines the same. The communion bread now represented the body of Jove, and the wine, the blood of Mars. Various schisms then arose, with one group calling themselves Pagan Protestants using grape juice instead of wine to represent the blood of Mars. . . .

The title used by the head of the new Pagan Catholic church was the ancient title Pontifex Maximus, while the title Pope was reserved for the head of the Christian Catholic church, which was now headquartered in Brasilia. One of the problems that the new Pontifex Maximus had to deal with was how much Catholic doctrine to keep and how much to discard. He appointed a committee to study the corpus of Catholic law and determine which doctrines were based primarily on the Bible and which were based primarily on Aristotle. As it turned out, more than two-thirds were based primarily or entirely on Aristotle, and those were kept. The rest were discarded.

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