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Post by Durka » Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:48 pm

C.E. Whiteoak wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:12 pm
The very witty Jim Goad once commented on CC that a Negro named Lipton is like a Jew named Noseton. :lol:
Jim Goad engaged in homosexual activity with a negro in earlier years. Is that not known to most?

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Post by Will Williams » Sat Aug 09, 2025 5:47 pm

Durka wrote:
Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:48 pm
C.E. Whiteoak wrote:
Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:12 pm
The very witty Jim Goad once commented on CC that a Negro named Lipton is like a Jew named Noseton. :lol:
Jim Goad engaged in homosexual activity with a negro in earlier years. Is that not known to most?
Not known to me. I know he served time in prison. I'm surprised he would admit to what you say.
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Post by Will Williams » Sat Aug 09, 2025 6:05 pm

Ondrej sticks to his supposed expertise on the subject of burnout. https://counter-currents.com/2025/08/burnout/ I tell him a thing or two about those he suggests have burned out.



Will Williams: August 9, 2025
Ondrej Mann: August 9, 2025 I will just repeat … Burnout is our inner enemy and harms us more than… the organized Jewish community… a few people who have burned out: George Burdi [etc.] … Surely you know Andrew Hamilton?


Did Burdi “burn out” or simply switch sides? My memory is that he renounced racism and White nationalism as part of a plea offer that kept him from serving a year in jail on a trumped up Canadian assault charge. I’ve never met AH but we’ve corresponded and NV has archived 147 of his excellent essays, here: "Andrew Hamilton" at nationalvanguard.com.

I don’t know that AH burned out, or simply stepped away from the grind like Jim Goad apparently has done after years of service. Folks would do well to read AH’s 2012 C-C article and comments below it: “Flawed Racism”. He spoke then of my mentor:

My opinion is that the anti-white racism of the Jews is of an entirely different order than the racism of other non-whites. The racism of the latter is fundamentally taught or learned or culturally-acquired racism.

The hatred of the Jews, on the other hand, is virulent, implacable, eternal, and homicidal. It burns within, and will never leave them.+
Whites Are Neither Good Nor Evil

William Pierce also taught that the vast majority of whites are neither good nor evil; they will think and behave in whatever manner the powers that be direct them to. Most people, that is, will conform and obey, no matter what. (Pierce called them “lemmings.”)

Only a tiny handful, he said, are truly good or evil—he estimated 1 to 3 percent in either direction. For some reason he believed the number of “good” people, though exceedingly small, was roughly double the number of intrinsically bad people… Nevertheless, people’s beliefs and behaviors can change radically. Change (for the worse) during my lifetime has been massive. Of course, it is easier to destroy than to build.

Unfortunately, if Pierce’s assumptions are correct—and, apart from his optimistic overestimation of the number of good to evil people, they appear to be—then it is comparatively easy with modern technology and dedicated ruthlessness for a small, domineering elite to continuously identify and destroy the tiny handful of good people on the margin, as they did under Communism and have continued to do in the post-WWII era…

We all should hope to find a wise mentor to guide us; my primary mentor was Pierce. I had others prior to meeting him from whom I mostly learned what not to do. I assume your mentor, if you’ve had one, was someone in the Czech Republic. Diet, exercise, hobbies, etc, aside, your and my experiences in “this thing of ours,” particularly on the issue of burnout, are vastly different.

Like I told you, no offense intended. Let me know how you feel about burnouts after you’ve survived several of them, operating at the highest levels of our cause for 40 years.
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Post by Durka » Sat Aug 09, 2025 6:31 pm

Not known to me. I know he served time in prison. I'm surprised he would admit to what you say.

Goad confessed to the homosexual encounter with a negro boy in the book below, which is still available on Amazon.

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And here is a link to a book review citing the homosexual encounter: https://cutt.ly/KrFSefYg

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Post by Douglas Mercer » Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:34 am

Andrew Hamilton
August 9, 2025 at 8:19 pm

It is a mistake to cite me as an example of burnout. Possession of both a moral center and a sense of duty precludes this, despite my lack of unwarranted optimism. Also, your “burnout” criteria do not apply.

The assertion that “nihilism [?] and burnout harm nationalists more than organized Jewish groups, woke ideology, and non-white immigration” is unpersuasive.

On the contrary, Jewish (and of course philosemitic) totalitarianism in the service of fanatical and psychopathological determination to commit white genocide, combined with burning hatred, iron will, and the means and ability to do so (with ease!), are far and away the primary causes of burnout.

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Post by Will Williams » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:48 am

wrote:"Douglas Mercer", quoting Andrew Hamilton: August 9, 2025 at 8:19 pm

It is a mistake to cite me as an example of burnout. Possession of both a moral center and a sense of duty precludes this, despite my lack of unwarranted optimism. Also, your “burnout” criteria do not apply.

The assertion that “nihilism [?] and burnout harm nationalists more than organized Jewish groups, woke ideology, and non-white immigration” is unpersuasive.

On the contrary, Jewish (and of course philosemitic) totalitarianism in the service of fanatical and psychopathological determination to commit white genocide, combined with burning hatred, iron will, and the means and ability to do so (with ease!), are far and away the primary causes of burnout.
Mr. Hamilton is correct, of course, as is usual with him. I'm glad Ondrej prompted him to reappear after a considerable absence to say he was wrong with his claim that AH had "burned out."
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:09 pm

Thank you. Douglas, for informing me about this interview: https://counter-currents.com/2025/08/co ... macdonald/ One takeaway I had during the interview was that it is not as important to inform the public about the JQ as it is to reach the few serious, racially responsible Whites with the truth, then get them to join with us, organising as like-minded separatists in physical, not virtual, communities. KMac depends a lot on social media, something which I'm not very interested in. Others are encouraged to do so if and only if they are spreading links to our Alliance sites and our NV essays to other racially conscious kinsmen.

Jared Taylor is a Titan on the question of race, but not so much on the JQ.




Will Williams: August 10, 2025
ArminiusMaximus: August 8, 2025 ...I agree that giving credit or acknowledging a source is the proper way to do things. In a better world our posterity will return to that right and honorable path… Sadly, all of Greg’s work and Jared Taylor… will get taken up by a Matt Walsh or a Charlie Kirk or worse a Stephen Crowder. These Titans will not get credit…


I finally got around to listening to this excellent interview with Dr. MacDonald last night, because Douglas Mercer had said KMac mentioned Dr. Pierce and Wilmot Robertson in it (but not until the 1:20 mark).

He said he had been influenced by both of those critics of Jewry years earlier, but did not give them credit or endorsement. Too bad.

We cannot afford to wait for weak conservatives like those you cite, or others like Carlson or that Negress he mentioned, to bring the JQ to the public’s attention when it was factually brought up to him by men like Pierce, Robertson, and presumably by others like Klassen and Oliver 50-plus years ago.

At least those courageous Titans caught the attention of a man like KMac early in his academic career. Their truths about Jewry are still as valid today as they were then. We stand on their shoulders as they stood on the shoulders of Messrs. Hitler, Shopenenhour, Luther, Ford and others who came before them.

On the JQ today, Dr. Kevin MacDonald is a treasure. As is Dr. Thomas Dalton. See here for many of his books: “Thomas Dalton” at cosmotheistChurch.org
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Post by Douglas Mercer » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:48 pm

Douglas Mercer wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:34 am
Andrew Hamilton
August 9, 2025 at 8:19 pm

It is a mistake to cite me as an example of burnout. Possession of both a moral center and a sense of duty precludes this, despite my lack of unwarranted optimism. Also, your “burnout” criteria do not apply.

The assertion that “nihilism [?] and burnout harm nationalists more than organized Jewish groups, woke ideology, and non-white immigration” is unpersuasive.

On the contrary, Jewish (and of course philosemitic) totalitarianism in the service of fanatical and psychopathological determination to commit white genocide, combined with burning hatred, iron will, and the means and ability to do so (with ease!), are far and away the primary causes of burnout.
Douglas Mercer August 10, 2025 at 4:31 pm

It is very good to hear from you Andrew. Do you have any plans to begin posting essays again either here at Counter-Currents or at National Vanguard? I know Kevin and Will at NV would love to start posting your stuff again. I have tremendous admiration for you, you are definitely one of the best writers in our sphere, and you have been missed.

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Post by Douglas Mercer » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:49 pm

Douglas Mercer August 10, 2025 at 6:39 pm

Some of the best writing on The Culture Of Critique can be found in Robert Griffin’s biography of William Pierce (Fame Of A Dead Man’s Deed’s). In the book Griffin gives a detailed description of KMAC’s work. It appears that in addition to KMAC being influenced by Pierce, the reverse was true as well, and Griffin wanted to explicate that part of Pierce’s intellectual development. Griffin often writes at TOO so it appears he has a relationship with KMAC.

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