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[Will Williams]

What person who respects and admires truth-tellers cannot appreciate Wolf's taking the time to debunk a bullshitter's claim? Wolf does that here in spades: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/er ... -genocide/


Will Williams: December 18, 2024

Krang to Wolf Stoner: December 15, 2024 I read M.K. [Mein Kampf] several times and there is very little about “natural selection”. What does it mean anyway?
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Wolf Stoner responds to Krang: December 17, 2024 (from chapter 10 0f Mein Kampf that anyone can validate)

“Let me explain: Man must not fall into the error of thinking that he was ever meant to become lord and master of Nature. A lopsided education has helped to encourage that illusion. Man must realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal struggle and strife. He will then feel that there cannot be a separate law for mankind in a world in which planets and suns follow their orbits, where moons and planets trace their destined paths, where the strong are always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must obey them or be destroyed. Man must also submit to the eternal principles of this supreme wisdom. He may try to understand them but he can never free himself from their sway”.

So, is "Krang” simply the product of a “lopsided education” that has taught him that Mr. Hitler was an evil monster, or is he a bald-faced liar, claiming on C-C that he has read MK several times?

Wolf, on 15 December in a response to “Krang” above, you advised him :

Do you want to undertake real small steps toward realization of White ideals? Then, contact Chairman Williams; especially, if you live in USA…

I don’t believe Krang is American, but even if he is, he shouldn’t bother to contact me. He has shown that he is not Alliance material. I don’t have time to waste with him, thanks.

[JohnUbele]

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I came across this yesterday, I hope it's okay for me to post it on this thread:

Legal Fund: Luigi Mangione - CEO Shooting Suspect
https://www.givesendgo.com/legalfund-ce ... ng-suspect

Thanks for that and the updates, John. The "Go Fund Me" outfit denied fundraising for the accused, as expected. His new attorney, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, is apparently a Jewess. Good luck with that.

You're very welcome.

I read some of the comments on there, a lot of people posted about negative experiences they had in dealing with health insurance companies.

[Will Williams]

Mr. JayeRyanOD could have benefitted by reading Dr. Pierce's "Perils of Hobbyism" back in 1992, had he been around then. Hobbyists eventually reveal themselves, like he did here: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/


Will Williams: December 19, 2024

JayeRyanOD: December 18, 2024 …HAC smeared me as supposedly getting a beautiful Ha White Russian Mail Order bride, living in an expensive Chicago Suburban mansion and just giving up on “the movement’ – total lies.
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What did you do about it, JR? Harold Covington did not defame you; he was just ridiculing you.

However, when the lying asshole wrote in his pissy, free newsletter that I was John Doe #2, deep-cover FBI Special Agent who had infiltrated the racial nationalist movement for 14 years and was Tim McVeigh’s handler, then mailed that l and other serious libels to third parties, knowing it was bullshit and that it was intended to harm me, he had finally stepped on his dick. I sued him for defamation and easily won a judgment where he ended up owing me $250,000.

He never informed fans of his forgettable fiction and other “movement” suckers that he eventually had to settle with me, nor that he’d declared bankruptcy to avoid execution of my judgment.

Take a deep dive into more about Harold “Big Lie” Covington here: Setting the Record Straight by Hadding Scott | National Vanguard Were you "Jack Ryan"at OD. If so, you may remember this soap opera there involving HAC in 2011:

Setting the Record Straight: The Genesis of Harold Covington's Vendetta against Hunter Wallace and Robert Campbell

Or further back, 34 years ago, when Dr. Pierce felt it necessary to expose the SOB to National Alliance members in our monthly members BULLETIN after HAC had been contacting a few of them with malicious lies about Pierce, me and our Alliance: Dr. William Pierce on Harold Covington | National Vanguard A side by side photo of me is there, contrasted with the professional smear artist.

A birdy told me that Dr. Johnson, a former fan of HAC’s fiction, may actually be planning to write about “Big Lie” in a future piece. Greg had previously overlooked HAC’s documented evil treason against legitimate pro-White groups and leaders and his total lack of character.

But character counts.

Put ‘covington’ in C-C’s search feature and a dozen or so articles will come up, like this foolish piece by Michael O’Meara from 14 years ago: The Northwest Novels of H. A. Covington:

I’m not quite certain why this is. Covington’s Trilogy is infinitely more readable and convincing than William Pierce’s Turner Diaries (now one of our classics), but has probably sold only a fraction as many copies. Part of the problem with its reception might lie in the fact that Covington, a veteran of the NS movement, has made not a few enemies within “the racially conscious community,” evident in his numerous critical references to William Pierce, as well as to Matt Koehl, Ben Klassen, Tom Metzger, David Duke, Martin Webster, John Tyndall, and others.

[Will Williams]

It's people like JayeryanOD that should not be allowed to comment on serious pro-White sites once revealed as nonserious, hopeless hobbyists.

Comments under articles on our NV and WB sites are more productive since we began culling and blocking worthless commentators. Our standards are higher than C-C's because we are actually building a serious movement, not just collecting fans of literature, favorite movies -- even promoting Harold Covington after been provided with his sordid history. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/



Will Williams: December 19, 2024
You’re a hobbyist, Jack, promoting the most notorious smear artist and political saboteur to ever style himself a leader of the White preservationist cause, while praising his third-rate scribblings. Get yourself a clown painting of John Wayne Gacy and separate him from his art.

JayeryanOD: December 19, 2024 Yes s all true I try to separate the “ art” from the artist .

I like a few Roman Polanski movies ( Chinatown, Macbeth ) and yes I know who he us , what he did .

[Will Williams]

Continued discussion about this disgraced alt-right "leader" Fuentes. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/. Greg Johnson asked me a month or so ago for help finding something Covington wrote years ago, so I found it for him. We'll see if he uses it in a planned piece he said he wants to write. In his request he wrote, "I cannot say you didn't tell me so."


Will Williams: December 19, 2024

Greg Johnson: December 19, 2024 …Only idiots knowingly associate their political movement with people who advocate criminal behavior… I think there’s a world of difference between taking a hard line against people who advocate criminal behavior and being censorious about liking Kubrick movies or jazz.
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True. One of William Pierce’s favorite movies was A Clockwork Orange from the film genius Jew Kubrick. That didn’t preclude him from being our foremost truth-telling Jew-fighter and White racial leader.

My point is that continued promotion of Covington just because he was a talented wordsmith, despite his deliberate, malicious smearing for years of a good man like Ben Klassen, for example, as a homosexual Jew who raped then murdered skinhead boys, is much worse than promoting a fleeting punk like Fuentes for advocating criminal behavior, if that’s what he did. I recall the brilliant alt-right nut Fuentes claimed that when his crew took over all non-Christians would be eradicated.

Wasn’t it the “white supremacist” Fuentes who dined with Trump at Mar A Lago along with the nigger “anti-Semite,” what’s his name? What was the Trumpster thinking, associating his political movement with such people?

I’ll continue to hold the hard line against Harold Covington’s malicious treachery to our noble cause, no matter if some who claim to be on our side celebrate his alleged “art” while refusing to recognize the damage he wrought for decades.

[Will Williams]

Wolf Stoner continues to put up excellent, relevant comments on C-C to counter bullshit put up by others: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/er ... e-genocide. Rousseau is the ambitious young leader of the Patriot Front, another failed alt-right group.



Will Williams: December 19, 2024

Wolf Stoner: December 17, 2024 In relation to Thomas Rousseau I can mention only the good advice given by Hitler: never try to become a political leader before your thirties. It applies to multitude of other aspiring young activists as well. They need time to ripen and good guidance from the experienced leaders. Instead, they try to go their own way and fall into all kinds of traps.
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Such sound advice, depending on how a young person has been raised by his parents.

I didn’t quit being a worker bee and commit to being a political soldier until I was 37, and even then, knew I had a lot to learn, seeking out our racial leaders until I was 41 when Ben Klassen, founder of Creativity religion, invited me to come work with him as his XO.

I learned so much, working closely with him for 15 months as editor of his Racial Loyalty tabloid. I was 44 when Dr. Pierce invited me to come work with him as his National Alliance XO. I already knew, after working with BK, that what our people needed is their own racial religion — non Semitic. Pierce expanded on that with Cosmotheism, that will be his legacy. Cosmotheism: Wave of the Future | National Vanguard

…Cosmotheists are not people primarily – and I stress the word primarily – interested in promoting certain racial goals, or certain social or political or economic goals. We are people primarily concerned with fulfilling our mission as the bearers of the Creator’s purpose, as agents of the universal will. That comes first.

I am so encouraged to see many young people being attracted to Pierce’s teachings today, 22 years after he died — young Whites who will be our future racial leaders after years of study and paying their dues.

[Will Williams]

I was glad to see this C-C article about Israeli misadventures from before the election, still open, so I can comment on Israel's use of sniper drones that our John Ubele had revealed here on WB recently. From National Public Radio: https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/ag ... dventures/ How many at C-C were aware of Israel's use of sniper drones, picking off Gazans as they stick their heads our of their doors after a bombing run?


Will Williams: December 20, 2024

Rez: October 25, 2024 Excellent analysis!

Unfortunately the few comments that this article has attracted is indicative of the level of awareness, or lack there of, of the White Nationalists (to say nothing of the general Western public) regarding their mortal enemy.
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With the presidential election behind us since this article was published, and escalation of the Jew/American war in occupied Palestine and surrounds, it’s good that comments have not yet been closed here. Gunner wrote:

…Mearsheimer pointed out that Israel no longer has that advantage given that other regional actors, including Hamas, Hezbollah, and even the Houthis, can now use new technologies such as drones and missiles to strike targets in Israel…

Maybe so, but it’s not Hamas, Hezbollah, or the Houthis that Americans should worry about as long as they remain in Semiteland and don’t sneak in over here.

With all the news about drones over New Jersey and other areas lately, that JOG assures us “pose no threat,” do not believe JOG nor controlled media. Remember, outgoing FBI stooge Wray declared with a straight face a couple of years ago that “domestic terrorists, primarily ‘white supremacists [sic]’ posed the biggest threat to America.”

That’s us, though there are very few if any ‘white supremacists’ among serious White dissidents in America. The FBI and JOG aka Great Satan is partnered with Little Satan, Israel, and when I read that Little Satan’s neighboring enemies have new advanced drones, to use against their occupiers — Jews — I smirk. Great Satan has the same drone technology as Little Satan

Gunner:

As Kevin MacDonald has pointed out, Bill Kristol, the Jewish Neoconservative who has never met a war he didn’t like, has admonished white [sic] Americans for their support of Donald Trump and sees white [sic] males in particular as the enemy.

That’s us, coming from Shabbos goy Trump’s top cop. And when Great Satan here sees its enemy — us — gaining strength and becoming more Jew-wise, it will use the same drone technology Little Satan is currently using against Hamas. Don’t take my word for it; even NPR spilled the beans a month ago on Little Satan’s drone technology and how it’s being used to murder innocent Gazan refugees:

sniper drones in Gaza and
they’re shooting civilians
NPR
By Kat Lonsdorf
Published November 19, 2024

JUANA SUMMERS, HOST:

Last week British surgeon Nizam Mamode testified in front of a committee in the U.K. Parliament.

NIZAM MAMODE: What I think I found particularly disturbing…

SUMMERS: Dr. Mamode had recently returned from working at a hospital in Central Gaza, and he told parliamentary members what he witnessed, including…

MAMODE: A bomb would drop, maybe on a crowded, tented area. And then the drones would come down, and…

SUMMERS: A new kind of drone in the Israeli arsenal, one with a gun and a camera attached that can shoot remotely.

MAMODE: So the drones would come down and pick off civilians, children. And we had description after description. This is not, you know, an occasional thing. This was day after day after day.

SUMMERS: For months, NPR has been collecting eyewitness accounts from Gaza that corroborate Dr. Mamode’s testimony, saying the Israeli military has been using sniper drone technology and that they’re shooting civilians, NPR’s Kat Lonsdorf reports. And a warning – this piece includes the sound of gunfire….

Read more here: Witnesses say Israel is using sniper drones in Gaza and they’re shooting civilians

And here: US Republicans tell Israel ‘reinforcements are on the way’ | The National

[Will Williams]

Telling C-Cers what they need to hear about the not-ready-for-prime-time know-it-alls: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/


Will Williams: December 20, 2024

WeEnjoyRVTrips: December 20, 2024 Fuentes’ defenders often say a lot of it is a joke. They like to hide behind the “can’t you take a joke” or “it’s all irony” responses….
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Immature losers all, to be ignored and shunned.

[Will Williams]

My response to C-C owner, Dr. Greg Johnson, is here. It's being moderated but will likely go through, though maybe not since it is critical of Greg's waiting years to finally admit that Covington was worthless, even an enemy of our cause for how he attacked legitimate pro-White groups and leaders -- while Greg promoted his phony "movement" by praising his fiction. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/



Will Williams: December 21, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Greg Johnson: December 20, 2024 You got the last laugh on Covington, Will. I wish he had used his skills as a storyteller to write novels not defame better man.
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It's a little late to be wishing that. Exposing Covington's fraud against our noble cause over several decades is no laughing matter. Do I enjoy that last laugh when he is still being promoted as a legitimate leader on sites like C-C and TOO?

You can admit you and others were wrong to promote him and remove articles praising his scribblings so as not to continue confusing people. That's your choice. You were not alone. Other legitimate publishers like George Dietz (Liberty Bell magazine) did the same by publishing his articles while ignoring the dirt.

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He took care not to admit authorship of his [Brief] history of the WN movement to me, but he recommended it nonetheless, in a furtive way, like he was offering me dope.
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He used you to promote his phony "movement," Greg.  It's not too late to admit that.

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He admitted to me that my review of the first four Nothwest Novels was the best thing that ever happened to his movement. But he pissed away the windfall with the fifth novel, which revealed too much of his method of smearing, as well as with trashy Podcaster drama featuring a porn harlot who lifted weights.
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That woman, Corinna Burt, who went by Axis Salley, worked closely with Covington, yes. But she was more than a weightlifter who had worked in the sex industry. She admitted after leaving him, having processed his mail, that she had shared correspondence to his <cough!> movement with the FBI -- arguably one of "the worst things that ever happened to his movement."

Hadding Scott's blog, "Setting the Record Straight" -- Setting the Record Straight by Hadding Scott | National Vanguard -- contained the following pieces, including one on his phony "Brief History" that he'd recommended to you "like dope." Google Jews removed his blogspot because they could, but Hadding probably retained the content somewhere. There's an instructive book you could write just from the following, entirely non-fiction.

Harold Covington calls for DEATH of Matt Koehl, David Duke, and William Pierce (1980)
Voice of Albion on Harold Covington and Combat 18
Noncounterproductivity in Sweden
Former collaborator W.H. Kendall Denounces Harold Covington as a "twisted megalomaniac" (1998)
More about Covington from W. H. Kendall
Former Collaborator Corinna Burt on how Covington uses donations
Don Black: Covington is "an accomplished and imaginative liar"
Martin Lindstedt calls Covington "a plague on the Movement" (2004)
Investigative Reporter Debunks the Alleged Covington-Hinckley Connection
Raine Butler: HAC is not a WN
April Gaede on Covington and his Followers
Carlos W. Porter on Nizkor and Harold Covington
Gordon Ipock's Reminiscence of Harold Covington
John Tyndall on Harold Covington and Combat 18
The Case of Gerald Sprouse
Zundelgram about a Covington Lie
Forrest Covington refers to his Mentally Ill Brother
WAR's circular on Harold Covington (late 1990s)
Martin Lindstedt on Harold Covington (2003)
Anatomy of a Hypocrite, by Ben Klassen
Covington's vicious obituary of Ben Klassen
COTC's Racial Loyalty newsletter
Covington's "Brief History" from the 1990s, "The Old Order Passeth"
John de Nugent on why Northwest Secession is no longer viable
Some problems with Covington's "Northwest Republic" idea
Why the "Northwest Republic" idea belongs to the 1980s
Covington's use of altered photos
Sockpuppetry: former collaborator Corinna Burt says that Covington spends a lot of time on it.
Sockpuppetry: Bob Rudisill is Harold Covington
Sockpuppetry: Covington is caught using multiple identities on VNN Forum
Sockpuppetry: Matt Parrott on Harold Covington
Documents from Covington’s Abortive Civil Suit against Ben Klassen, Will Williams, and the Church of the Creator
Williams v. Covington: Key Documents
Williams v. Covington: Dr. William Pierce's affidavit for the plaintiff
Williams v. Covington: Affidavits for the Plaintiff
Did Harold Covington serve in Vietnam?

[Will Williams]

To C-C's credit my moderated comment yesterday, above, appeared today, only slightly altered since I was unable to edit it. I added another comment about Covington today, below, in an effort to bring his naive fans at C-C into reality: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/ Nick Fuentes is a lightweight Covington wannabe but needs to be exposed as amalevolent fraud as well.

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My response to C-C owner, Dr. Greg Johnson, is here. It's being moderated but will likely go through, though maybe not since it is critical of Greg's waiting years to finally admit that Covington was worthless, even an enemy of our cause for how he attacked legitimate pro-White groups and leaders -- while Greg promoted his phony "movement" by praising his fiction. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/



Will Williams: December 21, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Greg Johnson: December 20, 2024 You got the last laugh on Covington, Will. I wish he had used his skills as a storyteller to write novels not defame better man.
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It's a little late to be wishing that. Exposing Covington's fraud against our noble cause over several decades is no laughing matter. Do I enjoy that last laugh when he is still being promoted as a legitimate leader on sites like C-C and TOO?

You can admit you and others were wrong to promote him and remove articles praising his scribblings so as not to continue confusing people. That's your choice. You were not alone. Other legitimate publishers like George Dietz (Liberty Bell magazine) did the same by publishing his articles while ignoring the dirt.

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He took care not to admit authorship of his [Brief] history of the WN movement to me, but he recommended it nonetheless, in a furtive way, like he was offering me dope.
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He used you to promote his phony "movement," Greg.  It's not too late to admit that.

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He admitted to me that my review of the first four Nothwest Novels was the best thing that ever happened to his movement. But he pissed away the windfall with the fifth novel, which revealed too much of his method of smearing, as well as with trashy Podcaster drama featuring a porn harlot who lifted weights.
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That woman, Corinna Burt, who went by Axis Salley, worked closely with Covington, yes. But she was more than a weightlifter who had worked in the sex industry. She admitted after leaving him, having processed his mail, that she had shared correspondence to his <cough!> movement with the FBI -- arguably one of "the worst things that ever happened to his movement."

Hadding Scott's blog, "Setting the Record Straight" -- Setting the Record Straight by Hadding Scott | National Vanguard -- contained the following pieces, including one on his phony "Brief History" that he'd recommended to you "like dope." Google Jews removed his blogspot because they could, but Hadding probably retained the content somewhere. There's an instructive book you could write just from the following, entirely non-fiction.

Harold Covington calls for DEATH of Matt Koehl, David Duke, and William Pierce (1980)
Voice of Albion on Harold Covington and Combat 18
Noncounterproductivity in Sweden
Former collaborator W.H. Kendall Denounces Harold Covington as a "twisted megalomaniac" (1998)
More about Covington from W. H. Kendall
Former Collaborator Corinna Burt on how Covington uses donations
Don Black: Covington is "an accomplished and imaginative liar"
Martin Lindstedt calls Covington "a plague on the Movement" (2004)
Investigative Reporter Debunks the Alleged Covington-Hinckley Connection
Raine Butler: HAC is not a WN
April Gaede on Covington and his Followers
Carlos W. Porter on Nizkor and Harold Covington
Gordon Ipock's Reminiscence of Harold Covington
John Tyndall on Harold Covington and Combat 18
The Case of Gerald Sprouse
Zundelgram about a Covington Lie
Forrest Covington refers to his Mentally Ill Brother
WAR's circular on Harold Covington (late 1990s)
Martin Lindstedt on Harold Covington (2003)
Anatomy of a Hypocrite, by Ben Klassen
Covington's vicious obituary of Ben Klassen
COTC's Racial Loyalty newsletter
Covington's "Brief History" from the 1990s, "The Old Order Passeth"
John de Nugent on why Northwest Secession is no longer viable
Some problems with Covington's "Northwest Republic" idea
Why the "Northwest Republic" idea belongs to the 1980s
Covington's use of altered photos
Sockpuppetry: former collaborator Corinna Burt says that Covington spends a lot of time on it.
Sockpuppetry: Bob Rudisill is Harold Covington
Sockpuppetry: Covington is caught using multiple identities on VNN Forum
Sockpuppetry: Matt Parrott on Harold Covington
Documents from Covington’s Abortive Civil Suit against Ben Klassen, Will Williams, and the Church of the Creator
Williams v. Covington: Key Documents
Williams v. Covington: Dr. William Pierce's affidavit for the plaintiff
Williams v. Covington: Affidavits for the Plaintiff
Did Harold Covington serve in Vietnam?