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David York

ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostTue Jun 23, 2015 6:38 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/white-separati ... d=31962334

I was a bit surprised to see this article. ABC news wrote about Matt Heimbach today, who has been an active member on Stormfront recently (I believe he was called an "Upstart" by the SPLC). Heimbach says Roof was the victim of an anti-White society:

“The left that persecutes and hates white culture, white identity and the Christian faith, they are the ones that are responsible because you will push individuals only so long before they react,” he said. “You cannot step on an individual forever before they decide that they are going to bite back and that’s what we see.”


I kind of agree with him here and think he is right about what pushed this kid to commit his crime. I don't agree with Heimbach's religious views though.
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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostFri Jun 26, 2015 2:39 pm

DanielOlj79 wrote:I kind of agree with him here and think he is right about what pushed this kid to commit his crime. I don't agree with Heimbach's religious views though.


I met the fellow last year and his religious views are whacky. I have to agree with SPLC's assessment somewhat from my own experience talking with him that Matthew is an upstart. Talks big, but everything he says is backed up by Bible scriptures. :roll: He'll have his following that buy into that sort of stuff.

up·start
ˈəpˌstärt
noun derogatory
a person who has risen suddenly to wealth or high position, especially one who behaves arrogantly.

Michael Olanich

Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostFri Jun 26, 2015 7:23 pm

We shouldn't give the SPLC any credit.

Yes, I do agree that Heimbach's religious views are off the wall. I think he's Eastern Orthodox.
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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostSat Jun 27, 2015 11:32 am

Michael Olanich wrote:We shouldn't give the SPLC any credit.

Like they say: even a blind squirrell finds a nut occasionally. Matthew is "evolving."

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Yes, I do agree that Heimbach's religious views are off the wall. I think he's Eastern Orthodox.

I don't know. Wasn't he excommunicated by his church for being such an arrogant upstart, or something like that?

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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostSat Jun 27, 2015 3:12 pm

Nicely put LOL


Like they say: even a blind squirrell finds a nut occasionally. Matthew is "evolving."

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Kinsmen die and cattle die,
And so must one die one’s self,
But there is one thing I know which never dies
And that is the fame of a dead man’s deeds.

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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostSun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 pm

Heimbach has jumped around to different esoteric philosophies in his short period in the spotlight. This is dangerous for any young person to do, since they may end up regretting having made certain public statements later in life. He is much too young to be a credible leader in most disciplines in life, leave alone as a credible leader in the greatest cause there is. The most competent leaders are those who have expertise in a field separate from white nationalism. It's not a good idea for our leaders to have no other life experience besides being in the movement. Dr. Pierce, Will Williams, and Kevin Strom were all well established in areas outside of our cause, and their unique skill-sets made the National Alliance stronger. The National Alliance is for competent men and women whose knowledge and commitment benefit the community.
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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostMon Jun 29, 2015 7:15 pm

Toward the Stars wrote:...The most competent leaders are those who have expertise in a field separate from white nationalism. It's not a good idea for our leaders to have no other life experience besides being in the movement. Dr. Pierce, Will Williams, and Kevin Strom were all well established in areas outside of our cause, and their unique skill-sets made the National Alliance stronger. The National Alliance is for competent men and women whose knowledge and commitment benefit the community.

When I read that I was reminded of what Dr. Pierce wrote 23 years ago about his two new staffers in West Virginia:
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Transcription from February-March 1992 BULLETIN (page 6):

Kevin Strom was a radio broadcast engineer before he began producing our American Dissident Voices programs, but repairing transmitters and climbing antenna towers wouldn't seem to have much to do with putting together a radio program. He is able to produce good programs because he has good artistic judgment, a good command of the English language, a thorough understanding of our ideology, and a feeling for the medium through which he is expressing himself.

Will Williams was the commander of a Green Beret unit in Vietnam, an architect, a home builder, and a portrait painter before becoming our Membership Coordinator. None of his previous experience seems especially relevant to his present task, except that both as a combat officer and as a businessman he learned to work closely with other people and to motivate them. There are two things that really qualify him to be our Membership Coordinator: a strong sense of purpose and a equally strong set of principles. He's a man who could have played successfully by the Jews' rules, but who instead said to himself, "This is a rotten system, and I'm not going to be a part of it any longer!"

We can't offer everyone the option of cutting himself loose from the Jewish system yet, but there is a way for nearly every member to work more effectively to end that system. Together we must try to find that way.

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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostMon Jun 29, 2015 9:33 pm

Matt Heimbach kind of looks like Brother Nathanael in that picture up there where he's holding the cross. Brother Nathanael is a Jew who supposedly converted to orthodox Christianity and does street evangelism similar to what Heimbach seems to be doing in that picture. I don't know if Heimbach is trying to be a leader but I would agree that a good leader would have to be someone that has some expertise in a field outside of White Nationalism, and be much older than someone in their mid 20's. A young person that age is simply not credible. I think on average most people don't form their firm political opinions until they are in their mid 30's, or early 30's at the very earliest.
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Re: ABC news article on Matt Heimbach

PostSun Dec 23, 2018 12:41 pm

Toward the Stars wrote:Heimbach has jumped around to different esoteric philosophies in his short period in the spotlight. This is dangerous for any young person to do, since they may end up regretting having made certain public statements later in life. He is much too young to be a credible leader in most disciplines in life, leave alone as a credible leader in the greatest cause there is. The most competent leaders are those who have expertise in a field separate from white nationalism. It's not a good idea for our leaders to have no other life experience besides being in the movement. Dr. Pierce, Will Williams, and Kevin Strom were all well established in areas outside of our cause, and their unique skill-sets made the National Alliance stronger. The National Alliance is for competent men and women whose knowledge and commitment benefit the community.


I haven't followed Mr. Heimbach's troubled career as a self-appointed racial leader, but had heard he was recently put in charge of "community outreach" for the National Socialist Movement (NSM). That apparently didn't work out for him any better than other "movement" titles he has held. Found this on Stormfront discussion board:

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Here is Jeff Schoep's complete, official statement on the expulsion [of Matthew Heimbach]...
Dec 6, 2018 at 5:24 am

Public Statement in regards to former NSM Director of Community Outreach Matthew Heimbach

It was the hope of the NSM to do this quietly and more discretely. However, a public post was made on social media regarding the expulsion of Matthew Heimbach calling him a traitor. I never approved or endorsed labeling our former Director of Community Outreach as a traitor.

Matthew Heimbach has been a friend and comrade of mine for many years, however, his political ideology does not coincide with the views of the NSM. Matthew is a strong believer in Strasserism. Strasserism is an obscure faction that exists to the left of National Socialism but slightly to the right of Communism. The Strasser brothers opposed Hitler’s anti-Semitism and were considered traitors. Gregor Strasser was executed on the Night of the Long Knives for his left-wing views and direct opposition to Hitler. Otto Strasser tried to split the national socialist party and was exiled. The political ideology of Strasserism is not directly compatible with true national socialism or the NSM.

Matthew repeatedly made social media posts commemorating leftist Fidel Castro, Kim Il Sung and Gregor Strasser. The National Socialist Movement has spent too many years fighting the far left in the streets to get into bickering matches over social media. Ultimately it was decided by all parties that Matthew was not a correct fit for the NSM, and that we would all go our separate ways. There is no hard feelings, and no dirt for the press to throw at us, or at Matthew regarding this matter.

The National Socialist Movement wishes Matthew the best in his future endeavors. He is a bright, intelligent, well spoken young man who still has a lot to learn. It is the hope of the NSM that Matthew will shrug off the leftist yoke of Strasserism and find his way back to true National Socialism.

Respectfully,
Commander Jeff Schoep
National Socialist Movement

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