Are Southerners the reason American WN is failing?
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:45 pm
That's what Northerner Alex Linder claims at his VanguardNewsNetwork forum, here and repeated all over his board:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=162833&page=5 (post #82)
What in hell is Linder talking about? I don't see any courage coming out of his undisciplined, anonymous VNNers, mch less any viable organization. VNN is known for the fighting among posters there, which is encouraged by Linder by his policies.
We won't be tolerating that sort of behavior here at WB.
Here's some more from Linder a couple of posts later:
Originally published as a series in his newspaper and magazine, this book is the final work of one of the most famous leaders of the White nationalist movement in America. Starting with the evolutionary origin of the White race, this book focuses on the the Classical Grecian and Roman civilizations, the White nations of the Middle East, the rise of the Germanic powers, the Vikings, Christianity, Nazi Germany, World War II and the racial crisis facing the West today. It contains, characteristically for the author, a highly critical appraisal of Jewish influence in Europe, and ends with a proposal of how the essence of the west can be saved. The book contains the entire text and almost all the illustrations which accompanied the original. It has also been fully indexed.
What we want. Then it develops an organization and a plan. Then it goes after support, winning people over not by appealing to them, but by making them see they have a role in this heroic quest to liberate their race.---
Dr. Pierce had a plan for organizing our race; Mr. Linder does not (other than beating up on good men like Pat Buchanan and Dr. Kevin MacDonald, et. al.).
Linder criticizes Christianity as being the biggest problem for White Nationalism -- even ahead of "dumb" Southerners -- yet what is the makeup of VNNers, according to this poll: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=16 ... ost1615999
View Poll Results: In what religion do you believe?
Orthodox Christianity 2 5.26%
Catholic Christianity 4 10.53%
Protestant Christianity 5 13.16%
Odinism 4 10.53%
Slavic Paganism 0 0%
Greek Paganism 0 0%
Celtic Paganism 1 2.63%
Atheism 11 28.95%
Hinduism 2 5.26%
Budhism 1 2.63%
Zoroastrianism 0 0%
Other white religions 8 21.05%
Voters: 38
This current sampling shows nearly 1/3 of VNNers are Christian, and that doesn't include Identity Christians. About the same number claim to be atheists; 10% Odinists, with a couple of Hindus and a Buddhist thrown in for good measure. There are no Cosmotheists, the religion Dr. Pierce founded for Whites exclusively, nor any followers of Creativity, the Whites-only religion founded by Ben Klassen. Both of those men, by the way, headquartered their operations in Southern Appalachia: the South.
How does the reader suppose Linder will organize this hodgepodge into a disciplined, courageous group of fighters for the race? We will not have his problem of crass inconsistency here at White Biocentrism because our goal is to attract White men and women who reject the Abrahamic religions and embrace the teachings of men like Dr. Pierce and Ben Klassen -- especially Southern men and women.
Another thing: although I can't search Mr. Linder's forum to find it, I recall seeing another poll of VNNers asking them where they live. A majority or near majority were from the South, oddly enough -- the very people Linder criticizes as dumb losers who have no moral courage.
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=162833&page=5 (post #82)
Whites must be organized by courageous and disciplined men. Organization and discipline matter more than almost anything, but as these are not Southern virtues, they are downplayed by Southern-legacy white nationalism, which tries to turn everything into a fistfight.
What in hell is Linder talking about? I don't see any courage coming out of his undisciplined, anonymous VNNers, mch less any viable organization. VNN is known for the fighting among posters there, which is encouraged by Linder by his policies.
We won't be tolerating that sort of behavior here at WB.
Sounds like something I've been saying for years. Except I mean it.The same spirit that lost the South the war is alive today. Side point is we need moral courage even more than physical courage, yet it's rarer.
Here's some more from Linder a couple of posts later:
like Dr. William Pierce, a Southerner born and bred, and a man Mr. Linder likes to characterize as a loser, spelled out:In general it is quite wrong to go on about [pansies] and heroes and such. This is the Southern way, and it is the way of failure. What we need begins with a definition. Who we are...
Originally published as a series in his newspaper and magazine, this book is the final work of one of the most famous leaders of the White nationalist movement in America. Starting with the evolutionary origin of the White race, this book focuses on the the Classical Grecian and Roman civilizations, the White nations of the Middle East, the rise of the Germanic powers, the Vikings, Christianity, Nazi Germany, World War II and the racial crisis facing the West today. It contains, characteristically for the author, a highly critical appraisal of Jewish influence in Europe, and ends with a proposal of how the essence of the west can be saved. The book contains the entire text and almost all the illustrations which accompanied the original. It has also been fully indexed.
What we want. Then it develops an organization and a plan. Then it goes after support, winning people over not by appealing to them, but by making them see they have a role in this heroic quest to liberate their race.---
Dr. Pierce had a plan for organizing our race; Mr. Linder does not (other than beating up on good men like Pat Buchanan and Dr. Kevin MacDonald, et. al.).
Linder criticizes Christianity as being the biggest problem for White Nationalism -- even ahead of "dumb" Southerners -- yet what is the makeup of VNNers, according to this poll: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=16 ... ost1615999
View Poll Results: In what religion do you believe?
Orthodox Christianity 2 5.26%
Catholic Christianity 4 10.53%
Protestant Christianity 5 13.16%
Odinism 4 10.53%
Slavic Paganism 0 0%
Greek Paganism 0 0%
Celtic Paganism 1 2.63%
Atheism 11 28.95%
Hinduism 2 5.26%
Budhism 1 2.63%
Zoroastrianism 0 0%
Other white religions 8 21.05%
Voters: 38
This current sampling shows nearly 1/3 of VNNers are Christian, and that doesn't include Identity Christians. About the same number claim to be atheists; 10% Odinists, with a couple of Hindus and a Buddhist thrown in for good measure. There are no Cosmotheists, the religion Dr. Pierce founded for Whites exclusively, nor any followers of Creativity, the Whites-only religion founded by Ben Klassen. Both of those men, by the way, headquartered their operations in Southern Appalachia: the South.
How does the reader suppose Linder will organize this hodgepodge into a disciplined, courageous group of fighters for the race? We will not have his problem of crass inconsistency here at White Biocentrism because our goal is to attract White men and women who reject the Abrahamic religions and embrace the teachings of men like Dr. Pierce and Ben Klassen -- especially Southern men and women.
Another thing: although I can't search Mr. Linder's forum to find it, I recall seeing another poll of VNNers asking them where they live. A majority or near majority were from the South, oddly enough -- the very people Linder criticizes as dumb losers who have no moral courage.