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Wade Hampton III

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The Lightning And The Sun

PostTue Oct 23, 2018 12:32 pm

If the Jews had the power to ban books, this one would be
at the top of their list:
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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostWed Oct 24, 2018 2:39 am

A very good read at describing the qualities of men who come closer to advancing us towards godhood than most. I found it most interesting seeing described Genghis Khan's hair and eyes betraying his Aryan descent, but he had no "Sun" to complement the overabundance of "Lightning"---perhaps because of his Mongoloid admixture.

Akhnaton too--may have been of a slight non-White admixture, and without any Lightning, his Sun-only rulership brought a mighty empire to ruination.

While I agree the book might be on the list of books Jews would love to ban due to the fact it portrays Adolf Hitler as a man against time imbued with both Lightning and Sun, it doesn't enjoy anywhere near a wide audience nor any "name recognition" such as what Mein Kampf enjoys. Thus it is still obscure except among those of us who are looking to glean some useful information as awakening Cosmotheists.

And what did I get from this book? The imperative that we Whites must awaken both the Lightning and the Sun that is in all of us and bring it to maximum effect.
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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostWed Oct 24, 2018 2:47 am

Jim Mathias wrote:A very good read


Indeed it is. I am about halfway thru it. The Founders were very wise in protecting us
from the predatory Jews with the First Amendment, even apparently having no foreknowledge
that they were doing so. There are even Internet rumors that Ben Franklin was very aware
of the Jew menace.
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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostWed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 am

There are even Internet rumors that Ben Franklin was very aware
of the Jew menace.


I wouldn't get too carried away with that one. Franklin, IIRC, was instrumental in building the first synagogue in Philadelphia, and a jew was one of the pallbearers at his funeral. Being an enlightenment man, he believed in some pretty lofty ideals of religious freedom. I have read, however, that he wasn't so welcoming of Germans.

[W]hy should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.
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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostWed Oct 24, 2018 9:39 am

Jim Mathias wrote:

I found it most interesting seeing described Genghis Khan's hair and eyes betraying his Aryan descent, but he had no "Sun" to complement the overabundance of "Lightning"---perhaps because of his Mongoloid admixture.

Akhnaton too--may have been of a slight non-White admixture, and without any Lightning, his Sun-only rulership brought a mighty empire to ruination.


That is a most interesting observation of those two remarkable historical figures, and certainly would explain a lot.
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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostWed Oct 24, 2018 1:02 pm

I know a lot of WN's worship "Savitri Devi" (real name Maximiani Portas) a Frenchwoman who served the Third Reich in World War II. However, in my view she destroyed all credibility as a champion for the white race once she married a non-white - an absolutely inexcusable betrayal of everything Adolf Hitler believed in. Now, I do not care if others want to worship or admire this bizarre woman, but too often it is left out that she married a non-white, even though it is rumored that the marriage was celibate. True or not, the fact remains that she was married to a non-white.


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Pot-bellied, non-white husband of Savitri Devi - Asit Krishna Mukherji

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Savitri Devi living in some hole neighborhood of India around 1980

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For all these reasons (but mainly because she married a non-white) I utterly dismiss Savitri Devi as someone worthwhile to the WN cause.
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Re: The Lightning (correct spelling) And The Sun

PostWed Oct 24, 2018 1:37 pm

I corresponded with Savitri Devi in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and I have read all of her political books. I recommend them to everyone who seeks a deeper understanding of National Socialism. The Lightning and the Sun is widely regarded as her magnum opus, but over the years I have come to regard Gold in the Furnace as being even more profound.

There is no doubt in my mind that she was one of the great postwar National Socialist thinkers.

Criticism of her wartime political marriage of convenience to a Brahmin to avoid incarceration by the British is a red herring, as is lurid and unfounded speculation concerning her sex life.

In the late 1940s she distributed thousands of piece of National Socialist literture in Occupied Germany, for which she could have been executed. Instead, when arrested, she was merely interned in a British gulag with other NS political prisoners.

People who live soft, comfortable lives and hide behind anonymous fantasy avatars should think twice before condemning her based on rumors spread over the Internet by her detractors.
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Re: The Lightning (correct spelling) And The Sun

PostThu Oct 25, 2018 1:30 am

Volker Zorn wrote:I corresponded with Savitri Devi in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and I have read all of her political books. I recommend them to everyone who seeks a deeper understanding of National Socialism. The Lightning and the Sun is widely regard as her magnum opus, but over the years I have come to regard Gold in the Furnace as being even more profound.

There is no doubt in my mind that she was one of the great postwar National Socialist thinkers.

Criticism of her wartime political marriage of convenience to a Brahmin to avoid incarceration by the British is a red herring, as is lurid and unfounded speculation concerning her sex life.

In the late 1940s she distributed thousands of piece of National Socialist literture in Occupied Germany, for which she could have been executed. Instead, when arrested, she was merely interned in a British gulag with other NS political prisoners.

People who live soft, comfortable lives and hide behind anonymous fantasy avatars should think twice before condemning her based on rumors spread over the Internet by her detractors.
Very instructive rebuttal, Volker Zorn. Ad hominem attacks do distract from the topic at hand and you set the record straight and brought the purpose of this post back into focus.

Sometimes we must do what it takes, even if it is unsavory on its face, to simply survive in order to carry on a higher purpose in life. It is indeed too easy to sit behind a keyboard and anonymously pass judgment on those who had a real life-and-death situations staring them in the face.
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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostThu Oct 25, 2018 10:45 am

Criticism of her wartime political marriage of convenience to a Brahmin to avoid incarceration by the British is a red herring, as is lurid and unfounded speculation concerning her sex life.


Well, yes - I have acknowledged (as others have) that her marriage was a sham. She did it to escape India's British police, deportation, imprisonment, etc. But she DID marry a non-white, and that you cannot argue.

As to her sex life.

1 - She participated in a sham marriage.
2 - Claims the marriage was "never consummated".
3 - Never was involved in a genuine marriage. Question: why not?

"Unfounded", you say? On the contrary, there is reasonable circumstantial evidence that "Savitri Devi" may well have been a lesbian.

People who live soft, confortable lives and hide behind anonymous fantasy avaters should think twice before condemning her based on rumors spread over the Internet by her detractors.


Says the person who "lives and hides behind an anonymous blank avatar".

As for "rumors", the fact that she married a non-white is NO RUMOR - it is a fact. And if she married this non-white Hindu to escape arrest or incarceration by the British of India, why then did she remain married to this non-white for years after World War II ended, when there was no longer any need? Doesn't it stand to reason she would've dumped this brown boy as soon as it was safe? Only - she didn't. Why not? Could it be she wanted to maintain the sham marriage so no one would suspect she really was a lesbian? And for the record, I do not care if she was. My point is this: she was a deeply flawed person in her private life, and died a childless "cat lady" living in a one room apartment above a garage in some scummy neighborhood of India.

Can we not find better heroes than this lady, one who shunned white people, white marriage and white children, and finally - white civilization in order to become a literal Dot Head?

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Re: The Lightening And The Sun

PostThu Oct 25, 2018 12:06 pm

RetiredAndLivingOnAltairIV wrote:
Criticism of her wartime political marriage of convenience to a Brahmin to avoid incarceration by the British is a red herring, as is lurid and unfounded speculation concerning her sex life.


Well, yes - I have acknowledged (as others have) that her marriage was a sham. She did it to escape India's British police, deportation, imprisonment, etc. But she DID marry a non-white, and that you cannot argue.

There you have the response to your statement. She married a sympathetic non-white for political protection. It is a non-issue.

As to her sex life.

1 - She participated in a sham marriage.
2 - Claims the marriage was "never consummated".
3 - Never was involved in a genuine marriage. Question: why not?

"Unfounded", you say? On the contrary, there is reasonable circumstantial evidence that "Savitri Devi" may well have been a lesbian.

You have evidence? Feel free to share it with us. If not, stop slandering her. Your gut feeling is not grounds to call this well-respected woman a lesbian.

People who live soft, confortable lives and hide behind anonymous fantasy avaters should think twice before condemning her based on rumors spread over the Internet by her detractors.


Says the person who "lives and hides behind an anonymous blank avatar".

Volker Zorn is known and respected here and among National Alliance members, and I can't say the same for you.

As for "rumors", the fact that she married a non-white is NO RUMOR - it is a fact. And if she married this non-white Hindu to escape arrest or incarceration by the British of India, why then did she remain married to this non-white for years after World War II ended, when there was no longer any need? Doesn't it stand to reason she would've dumped this brown boy as soon as it was safe? Only - she didn't. Why not? Could it be she wanted to maintain the sham marriage so no one would suspect she really was a lesbian? And for the record, I do not care if she was. My point is this: she was a deeply flawed person in her private life, and died a childless "cat lady" living in a one room apartment above a garage in some scummy neighborhood of India.

If you really don't care about her sexuality, why bring it up at all? Why drag the woman's good name through the mud with UNFOUNDED ALLEGATIONS? If you disagree with her ideas or dissertations, debate them. Otherwise, quit your foolishness.

Can we not find better heroes than this lady, one who shunned white people, white marriage and white children, and finally - white civilization in order to become a literal Dot Head?

She was well aware of the role Aryans played in the formation and development of India, the caste system, and the Hindu religion, as I can only assume you are NOT aware of.

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My comments in red. Retired, I'll gladly respect a debate of her ideas or writing, but any more slander will not reflect well on you or any others who wish to spread it.
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