Words of Wolf Stoner

[Douglas Mercer]

I liken the situation to when a home has been flooded by a water leak. In the metaphor Trump is finally getting around to slowly turning the water off but even if he succeeds in that (which is doubtful) the home is still full of the rot from top to bottom. And you will never clean up the rot. That is the damage has been done. The irony is that Greg Johnson has said many times that the worst thing for Whites is a well-ordered civic nationalist/multicultural country and if Trump wildly succeeds that is precisely what we will get. The fact is that when you relentlessly hammer a country for a century that country passes a point of no return.

[Will Williams]

I'm pleased to see this discussion of Keith Woods' essay on Counter-Currents since it brings out courageous, enlightened defenders of "hated" National Socialism, especially about its misunderstood spiritial underpinnings so necessary for future White resistance, survival and preservation. It has given you the opportunity to express yourself to a wider audience, Wolf; this essay does so in spades.

Kevin Strom's ADV yesterday did the same, but he likely would not have expressed himself so strongly had not Mr. Woods' essay on C-C been brought to his attention: https://nationalvanguard.org/2025/03/wh ... -not-work/. Apparently, Woods has millions of virtual fans all over social media, but his wrongheaded opinion of NS, and by extention Cosmotheism, counts for little in the long run in the real world.

A recognized top spokesman for Cosmotheism as a committed Alliance member, we'll eventually figure a way to get one of the gold Life Rune pins that Dr. Pierce had made back in the 1970s for NA's most outstanding activists to you. It's too bad that currently the USPS rejects any mail from us into Russia -- stupid sanctions between and against still-White nations.

The Triumph of Mediocrity

My thoughts after reading Keith Woods' article "Nationalism Doesn't Need National Socialism"
https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/na ... socialism/

The article of Keith Woods on Counter-Currents “Nationalism doesn’t need National-Socialism” is noteworthy for many reasons.
First of all I need to accentuate my respect to the intellectual abilities of the author. He excellently presented his case; put forward well-formulated arguments and disproved the supposed follies of his opponents.

What is most important about this article is the fact that it isn’t something isolated but a symptom of the overall increasing trend in the western society.

The ongoing right shift in European and American politics is the result of this electoral tendency. The mainstream crowd demands a change from the course that was followed for the last 80 years. Not because of some lofty ideals but for the simple reason of fear before increasing chaos and worsening economic conditions.

Keith Woods is a part of this trend; its intellectual expression. I am sure that if his and my worldviews were put on the popular ballot, he would have won 99% against 1%. Therefore, I have no claim of presenting a view that is popular and politically advantageous. On the contrary, I am content to define and defend the position that is bound to be utterly indefensible and “morally wrong” according to the prevailing mainstream vision. More than this; I don’t care either about public opinion, nor about prevailing dogmas. I judge all people and ideas according to their intrinsic value.

Therefore, I have no intention to dispute the author’s position on the grounds of political expediency and social acceptability. I readily concede these points to Keith Woods.

But I have a strong opinion in regard to the other side of this issue; its spiritual long-term component.
The loose social movement that the author adheres to is, obviously, gaining ground; due to the worsening socioeconomic conditions. Yes, the mainstream public becomes ever more amenable to the ideas that call for restrictions on immigration and reintroduction of more traditional governance. Trump’s victory is the most symptomatic expression of this trend....

[Wolf Stoner]

I liken the situation to when a home has been flooded by a water leak. In the metaphor Trump is finally getting around to slowly turning the water off but even if he succeeds in that (which is doubtful) the home is still full of the rot from top to bottom... The fact is that when you relentlessly hammer a country for a century that country passes a point of no return.

Yes, in stark contrast to the situation in 1920es, when NS movement had to save the ailing European society, now we are relieved of this titanic burden. The European/American society is dead; there is nothing to save. The best service that could be rendered for its remnants is to clear the ground. The rotten ruins of the former great civilization are useless. Any new attempt at reestablishing White society will require a new structure. But before starting to build a new structure, the ground must be cleared of all garbage. Now comes the time of great cleansing. It is a futile endeavor to stop this hurricane. All Trump’s attempts to “bring peace” are like shoveling soil with a spade, hoping to stop a tsunami wave.

[Will Williams]

Arguing with anonymous dipshit name-callers on the Internet is counterproductive and a waste of time. People like this Hammer fellow will not be allowed to post comments on our sites: https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/na ... socialism/
Wolf makes clear that we do not care about public opinion, or about being the biggest group, only the best and being sound.

Will Williams: March 10, 2025

Hammer: March 10, 2025 Let me guess!! You are going to call me a Jew or fed for pointing out the failures of your spergy neo-Nazi cult LOL! You care more about resurrecting a Germanic supremacist ideology and worshipping a flawed leader than being in the present and preserving the well-being of all whites.
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I won’t be calling you anything. You’re an anonymous Internet shadow. Lead on!

I’m content to be in the same small camp with wise Wolf Stoner, who says:

Keith Woods is a part of this trend; its intellectual expression. I am sure that if his and my worldviews were put on the popular ballot, he would have won 99% against 1%. Therefore, I have no claim of presenting a view that is popular and politically advantageous. On the contrary, I am content to define and defend the position that is bound to be utterly indefensible and “morally wrong” according to the prevailing mainstream vision. More than this; I don’t care either about public opinion, nor about prevailing dogmas…

[Douglas Mercer]

I liken the situation to when a home has been flooded by a water leak. In the metaphor Trump is finally getting around to slowly turning the water off but even if he succeeds in that (which is doubtful) the home is still full of the rot from top to bottom... The fact is that when you relentlessly hammer a country for a century that country passes a point of no return.

Yes, in stark contrast to the situation in 1920es, when NS movement had to save the ailing European society, now we are relieved of this titanic burden. The European/American society is dead; there is nothing to save. The best service that could be rendered for its remnants is to clear the ground. The rotten ruins of the former great civilization are useless. Any new attempt at reestablishing White society will require a new structure. But before starting to build a new structure, the ground must be cleared of all garbage. Now comes the time of great cleansing. It is a futile endeavor to stop this hurricane. All Trump’s attempts to “bring peace” are like shoveling soil with a spade, hoping to stop a tsunami wave.

https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/co ... sm-plus-x/

This article on Counter Currents says that the right-wing dissidents should work with the establishment:

"We have a lot to gain from working with the establishment, such as legitimacy, policies, and positions. But the establishment has even more to gain by working with us: a cohort of loyal, competent, and driven staffers.

I think this is misguided, as whatever incremental improvements they make will be nearly meaningless. When a country has passed the point of no return it's best to stick to your guns, maintain your integrity, and wait for the right moment to act.

[Wolf Stoner]

This article on Counter Currents says that the right-wing dissidents should work with the establishment:

"We have a lot to gain from working with the establishment, such as legitimacy, policies, and positions. But the establishment has even more to gain by working with us: a cohort of loyal, competent, and driven staffers.

I think this is misguided, as whatever incremental improvements they make will be nearly meaningless. When a country has passed the point of no return it's best to stick to your guns, maintain your integrity, and wait for the right moment to act.

Fully agree with you. This kind of people who want to cooperate with the system are the same conformists as the rest of the population. They only imagine themselves to be “dissidents”.

The end result of all such ideas is the situation in which the substantial part of Russian nationalists has found itself. Many of the Russian nationalist leaders preached this idea of “cooperation with the authorities” since 2014; they cooperated with FSB in organizing armed incursions into Ukraine. They supported the major invasion of 2022. But the system used them simply as cannon-fodder. Those nationalists were never supposed to have any share (neither in politics, nor in economics). Far from all Russian nationalists swallowed this bait. The most radical part has taken even more anti-system position than before.

I don’t think that we must take seriously those who propose any cooperation with the system. This kind of people are useless cowards. They seek their own advantage, like any other mainstream politicians. They want to have a quiet comfortable life; but in the same time, they want to exploit growing nationalist feelings.