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Post by JohnUbele » Fri May 27, 2022 8:45 am

This is a short list of schools which offer Permaculture courses. If you do search engine searches for "Permaculture Schools in __your_area__" then you may find some schools which could be fairly close to where you live.

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https://www.permaculturenews.org/2021/1 ... maculture/

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Re: Permaculture Courses

Post by Will Williams » Fri May 27, 2022 9:02 am

JohnUbele wrote:
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John, thanks for the permaculture stuff. but WB is not a bulletin board for folks to promote their social media.

I don't do Telegram or other social media myself, but I'm curious: since you promote your Telegram stuff here on WB, do you promote National Alliance sites there?
If Whites insist on participating in "social media," do so on ours, not (((theirs))). Like us on WhiteBiocentrism.com; follow us on NationalVanguard.org. ᛉ

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Post by JohnUbele » Mon May 30, 2022 1:49 am

Steam-Powered wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 10:19 am
First thing I saw after opening the second link was an Asian woman watering a garden. Not for me.


This page is a good resource:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles ... esign-free

I would also recommend you buy this book:

https://tobyhemenway.com/book/gaias-garden/

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Re: Permaculture Courses

Post by Robert Burns » Mon May 30, 2022 11:51 pm

Steam-Powered wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 7:09 pm
JohnUbele wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 1:49 am
Steam-Powered wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 10:19 am
First thing I saw after opening the second link was an Asian woman watering a garden. Not for me.


This page is a good resource:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles ... esign-free

I would also recommend you buy this book:

https://tobyhemenway.com/book/gaias-garden/
Once again, I clicked your link and discovered that your recommended website is run by race-mixers:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/people/team

The magazine published by that website has colored folks on current covers, too:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/subscrib ... agazine-0=

This is NOT something to post on White Biocentrism. Why are you recommending that members of the National Alliance click on links featuring race-mixing and a magazine promoting colored people? I'm not familiar with "permaculture" but the links look like it's promoting race-mixing.
Even if these websites weren't promoting racial diversity, I don't think it's really worth paying the fee for courses on permaculture anyway. I'm certainly not going to do that. Not only are there plenty of books on the subject, the Internet has basically all the same information for free if you look hard enough, and it's not like you really need a formal certification unless you are looking to become some kind of instructor yourself.

Obviously there are benefits to having teachers that can answer specific questions in real time, but there are also ways of getting answers from experienced individuals that don't cost a dime; namely, you can ask questions on Internet forums dedicated to the particular subject you're wondering about. That goes for pretty much any subject, not just permaculture. I'm sure that you if you look you can even find local farmers that are willing to give you tips on how they do various things. There are plenty of in-depth YouTube videos too.

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Post by JohnUbele » Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 am

Riley wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:51 pm
Steam-Powered wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 7:09 pm
JohnUbele wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 1:49 am
Steam-Powered wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 10:19 am
First thing I saw after opening the second link was an Asian woman watering a garden. Not for me.


This page is a good resource:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles ... esign-free

I would also recommend you buy this book:

https://tobyhemenway.com/book/gaias-garden/
Once again, I clicked your link and discovered that your recommended website is run by race-mixers:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/people/team

The magazine published by that website has colored folks on current covers, too:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/subscrib ... agazine-0=

This is NOT something to post on White Biocentrism. Why are you recommending that members of the National Alliance click on links featuring race-mixing and a magazine promoting colored people? I'm not familiar with "permaculture" but the links look like it's promoting race-mixing.
Even if these websites weren't promoting racial diversity, I don't think it's really worth paying the fee for courses on permaculture anyway. I'm certainly not going to do that. Not only are there plenty of books on the subject, the Internet has basically all the same information for free if you look hard enough, and it's not like you really need a formal certification unless you are looking to become some kind of instructor yourself.

Obviously there are benefits to having teachers that can answer specific questions in real time, but there are also ways of getting answers from experienced individuals that don't cost a dime; namely, you can ask questions on Internet forums dedicated to the particular subject you're wondering about. That goes for pretty much any subject, not just permaculture. I'm sure that you if you look you can even find local farmers that are willing to give you tips on how they do various things. There are plenty of in-depth YouTube videos too.


I read Gaia's Garden back in the Spring of 2009. The book was recommended to me by an organic gardener who took a Permaculture Design Course (PDC) and who actually made a living selling the fruits and vegetables he produced on his quarter acre urban lot. At that time he told me to take a Permaculture Design Course. I knew they existed but to me they seemed too expensive (around $1,500 at that time), so I decided to try and learn about Permaculture on my own.

After I read the Gaia's Garden book, I watched a number of videos about Permaculture and I also read a number of articles on the subject. During early 2010 I tried to do some Permaculture things at a property I had bought. I made too many mistakes with the property, and I ended up giving up on the project. In the Summer of 2011 I left Florida and moved to Montana.

After I returned to Florida in July 2012, I found out about a Permaculture Design Course being offered in the Tampa Bay area and I took the course which ran several weekends during the months of September, October and November. It was at this course that I met Toby Hemenway, the author of Gaia's Garden. I consider myself fortunate that one segment of my course was taught by him.

One of the most beneficial parts of the course was that we were given tours of Permaculture sites and from this we could see the relationships between the various plants and species of animals and insects. Walking through a Permaculture site is something which is very valuable and useful in itself because it's like walking through a 3-D model which is something you can't get from watching videos or from reading books.

The PDC I took in the latter half of 2012 cost me about $1,200. I consider that money well spent because I really feel that what I paid for was very valuable to me. I can't speak for other Permaculture Design Schools, but I know the one that I went to was worth the money, at least to me.

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Re: Permaculture Courses

Post by Robert Burns » Tue May 31, 2022 2:19 am

JohnUbele wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 am
Riley wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:51 pm
Steam-Powered wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 7:09 pm
JohnUbele wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 1:49 am




This page is a good resource:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles ... esign-free

I would also recommend you buy this book:

https://tobyhemenway.com/book/gaias-garden/
Once again, I clicked your link and discovered that your recommended website is run by race-mixers:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/people/team

The magazine published by that website has colored folks on current covers, too:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/subscrib ... agazine-0=

This is NOT something to post on White Biocentrism. Why are you recommending that members of the National Alliance click on links featuring race-mixing and a magazine promoting colored people? I'm not familiar with "permaculture" but the links look like it's promoting race-mixing.
Even if these websites weren't promoting racial diversity, I don't think it's really worth paying the fee for courses on permaculture anyway. I'm certainly not going to do that. Not only are there plenty of books on the subject, the Internet has basically all the same information for free if you look hard enough, and it's not like you really need a formal certification unless you are looking to become some kind of instructor yourself.

Obviously there are benefits to having teachers that can answer specific questions in real time, but there are also ways of getting answers from experienced individuals that don't cost a dime; namely, you can ask questions on Internet forums dedicated to the particular subject you're wondering about. That goes for pretty much any subject, not just permaculture. I'm sure that you if you look you can even find local farmers that are willing to give you tips on how they do various things. There are plenty of in-depth YouTube videos too.


I read Gaia's Garden back in the Spring of 2009. The book was recommended to me by an organic gardener who took a Permaculture Design Course (PDC) and who actually made a living selling the fruits and vegetables he produced on his quarter acre urban lot. At that time he told me to take a Permaculture Design Course. I knew they existed but to me they seemed too expensive (around $1,500 at that time), so I decided to try and learn about Permaculture on my own.

After I read the Gaia's Garden book, I watched a number of videos about Permaculture and I also read a number of articles on the subject. During early 2010 I tried to do some Permaculture things at a property I had bought. I made too many mistakes with the property, and I ended up giving up on the project. In the Summer of 2011 I left Florida and moved to Montana.

After I returned to Florida in July 2012, I found out about a Permaculture Design Course being offered in the Tampa Bay area and I took the course which ran several weekends during the months of September, October and November. It was at this course that I met Toby Hemenway, the author of Gaia's Garden. I consider myself fortunate that one segment of my course was taught by him.

One of the most beneficial parts of the course was that we were given tours of Permaculture sites and from this we could see the relationships between the various plants and species of animals and insects. Walking through a Permaculture site is something which is very valuable and useful in itself because it's like walking through a 3-D model which is something you can't get from watching videos or from reading books.

The PDC I took in the latter half of 2012 cost me about $1,200. I consider that money well spent because I really feel that what I paid for was very valuable to me. I can't speak for other Permaculture Design Schools, but I know the one that I went to was worth the money, at least to me.
I suppose things like learning from the best and getting hands-on experience with a functioning farm would make the course much more worth it, and you actually took the course so you'd obviously know more about its merits than I do. I don't know how widely the quality of these courses varies, but it sounds like the one you took was probably one of the best ones out there. Still, $1200 is quite a lot of money for someone like me. Maybe some others here would find it worth it for them, but I'm probably just going to stick to my plan of taking it slow and learning as I go.

I was also thinking that if I do run into any walls, there must be people/companies out there who offer personalized consulting for permaculture design that would involve looking at my land and determining how best to utilize it. I haven't put much time into finding such consultants yet because I am not at a point where I could begin work on such a large project, but that's just the idea I've had in the back of my mind.

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Re: Permaculture Courses

Post by JohnUbele » Tue May 31, 2022 2:27 am

Riley wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 2:19 am
JohnUbele wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 am
Riley wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:51 pm
Steam-Powered wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 7:09 pm


Once again, I clicked your link and discovered that your recommended website is run by race-mixers:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/people/team

The magazine published by that website has colored folks on current covers, too:
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/subscrib ... agazine-0=

This is NOT something to post on White Biocentrism. Why are you recommending that members of the National Alliance click on links featuring race-mixing and a magazine promoting colored people? I'm not familiar with "permaculture" but the links look like it's promoting race-mixing.
Even if these websites weren't promoting racial diversity, I don't think it's really worth paying the fee for courses on permaculture anyway. I'm certainly not going to do that. Not only are there plenty of books on the subject, the Internet has basically all the same information for free if you look hard enough, and it's not like you really need a formal certification unless you are looking to become some kind of instructor yourself.

Obviously there are benefits to having teachers that can answer specific questions in real time, but there are also ways of getting answers from experienced individuals that don't cost a dime; namely, you can ask questions on Internet forums dedicated to the particular subject you're wondering about. That goes for pretty much any subject, not just permaculture. I'm sure that you if you look you can even find local farmers that are willing to give you tips on how they do various things. There are plenty of in-depth YouTube videos too.


I read Gaia's Garden back in the Spring of 2009. The book was recommended to me by an organic gardener who took a Permaculture Design Course (PDC) and who actually made a living selling the fruits and vegetables he produced on his quarter acre urban lot. At that time he told me to take a Permaculture Design Course. I knew they existed but to me they seemed too expensive (around $1,500 at that time), so I decided to try and learn about Permaculture on my own.

After I read the Gaia's Garden book, I watched a number of videos about Permaculture and I also read a number of articles on the subject. During early 2010 I tried to do some Permaculture things at a property I had bought. I made too many mistakes with the property, and I ended up giving up on the project. In the Summer of 2011 I left Florida and moved to Montana.

After I returned to Florida in July 2012, I found out about a Permaculture Design Course being offered in the Tampa Bay area and I took the course which ran several weekends during the months of September, October and November. It was at this course that I met Toby Hemenway, the author of Gaia's Garden. I consider myself fortunate that one segment of my course was taught by him.

One of the most beneficial parts of the course was that we were given tours of Permaculture sites and from this we could see the relationships between the various plants and species of animals and insects. Walking through a Permaculture site is something which is very valuable and useful in itself because it's like walking through a 3-D model which is something you can't get from watching videos or from reading books.

The PDC I took in the latter half of 2012 cost me about $1,200. I consider that money well spent because I really feel that what I paid for was very valuable to me. I can't speak for other Permaculture Design Schools, but I know the one that I went to was worth the money, at least to me.
I suppose things like learning from the best and getting hands-on experience with a functioning farm would make the course much more worth it, and you actually took the course so you'd obviously know more about its merits than I do. I don't know how widely the quality of these courses varies, but it sounds like the one you took was probably one of the best ones out there. Still, $1200 is quite a lot of money for someone like me. Maybe some others here would find it worth it for them, but I'm probably just going to stick to my plan of taking it slow and learning as I go.

I was also thinking that if I do run into any walls, there must be people/companies out there who offer personalized consulting for permaculture design that would involve looking at my land and determining how best to utilize it. I haven't put much time into finding such consultants yet because I am not at a point where I could begin work on such a large project, but that's just the idea I've had in the back of my mind.

There was a soil building guide which was one of the PDFs I received in my course. I have it on my Telegram channel, I'll try to find a direct link for it and post it on this thread.

I've read that guide probably 7 or 8 times over the years. It's only about 18 pages long, but it's very useful information.

There are some Permaculture Design Courses which will allow students to take specific segments of them. You might be able to find a Permaculture school which will offer the "soil building"segment by itself. This is only about 15 to 25% of a PDC, so you may be able to take the soil building segment for around $200 to $250. It's an option worth considering.

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Post by JohnUbele » Tue May 31, 2022 4:23 am

This is the soil building guide:

https://t.me/JohnJamesUbele/5

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