GRECE or European New Right

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GRECE or European New Right

Post by WolfHammer » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pm

What do you think about GRECE? (Groupement de Recherche et d'Études pour la Civilisation Européenne) - Research and Study Group for European Civilization.
They motivated a lot of young movements in Europe.

GRECE is deeply opposed to multiculturalism, liberal democracy, capitalism, and distinguishes itself from other national-conservative organizations in its specific rejection of Christianity and endorsement of neopaganism. The group defends a nonreactionary "conservative revolution" aiming at the rejuvenation of a pan-European identity and nationalism, while supporting the preservation and separation of ethnic groups and cultures at the worldwide level. GRECE members have coined and promoted influential concepts in the Western far right, such as "ethnopluralism" and "archeofuturism".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRECE
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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by Riley » Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:44 pm

I've never heard of them, and I can't find any website either. The Wikipedia page has the most recent thing being that one of the founders also created the group Terre et Peuple in 1995, and that website appears to be still publishing articles: http://www.terreetpeuple.com/

Based on what you say and on a quick look through the website, I'm sure we agree on a lot of things, but the National Alliance is Cosmotheist, not pagan. Any White person of wholly European ancestry can join regardless of where they're from or where they live. We are pan-European.

I don't know what is meant by "conservative revolution". That sounds like an oxymoron to me. In any case, we are not conservatives. I have more respect for paganism than I do for most other religions, and many central elements of paganism are also central to Cosmotheism (I would even say that Cosmotheism is an evolved form of paganism), but we are by no means trying to go back to the old ways.

All that said, I know very little about this group, so I'm mostly going off of what you said about them here. We might agree on almost everything, or we might have some major disagreements. I'd have to see some kind of official statement of purpose from the group and more information in general to say for sure.

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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by Jim Mathias » Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:10 am

WolfHammer wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pm
What do you think about GRECE? (Groupement de Recherche et d'Études pour la Civilisation Européenne) - Research and Study Group for European Civilization.
They motivated a lot of young movements in Europe.

GRECE is deeply opposed to multiculturalism, liberal democracy, capitalism, and distinguishes itself from other national-conservative organizations in its specific rejection of Christianity and endorsement of neopaganism. The group defends a nonreactionary "conservative revolution" aiming at the rejuvenation of a pan-European identity and nationalism, while supporting the preservation and separation of ethnic groups and cultures at the worldwide level. GRECE members have coined and promoted influential concepts in the Western far right, such as "ethnopluralism" and "archeofuturism".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRECE
Interesting group you've introduced here, WolfHammer. I'd also like to know more about what Whites in Europe are doing, perhaps to even contact if their goals and overall aims are close to ours.

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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by WolfHammer » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:54 am

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You must have heard for Generation Identity were one of the organizations that was inspired by Alain de Benoist, Dominique Venner, Guillaume Faye or European New Right. I think they are forbidden in some countries. and that they divide into several factions.
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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by Will Williams » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:11 pm

WolfHammer wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:22 pm
What do you think about GRECE? GRECE is deeply opposed to multiculturalism, liberal democracy, capitalism, and distinguishes itself from other national-conservative organizations in its specific rejection of Christianity and endorsement of neopaganism. The group defends a nonreactionary "conservative revolution" aiming at the rejuvenation of a pan-European identity and nationalism, while supporting the preservation and separation of ethnic groups and cultures at the worldwide level. GRECE members have coined and promoted influential concepts in the Western far right, such as "ethnopluralism" and "archeofuturism".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRECE
I wouldn't trust much of what anti-nationalist, Jew-run Wikipedia says, but put 'golden dawn' in the search box at NationalVanguard.org and a dozen or so articles come up about that organization. Dr. Pierce traveled to Greece and was the keynote speaker at one of their gatherings.

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Supporters of the Golden Dawn gather in front of the Greek parliament in 2014. Photograph: Louisa Gouliamaki/AFP/Getty

A more recent, long article in The Guardian about "the rise & fall" of Golden Dawn: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/m ... nazi-trial
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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by Will Williams » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:49 pm

Will Williams wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:11 pm
I wouldn't trust much of what anti-nationalist, Jew-run Wikipedia says, but put 'golden dawn' in the search box at NationalVanguard.org and a dozen or so articles come up about that organization. Dr. Pierce traveled to Greece and was the keynote speaker at one of their gatherings.
I found what Dr. Pierce wrote about his trip to Greece that I had transcribed 10 years ago:

The National Alliance in Europe
Commentary by Dr. Pierce from October 1998:
Report from Greece

On October 24 and 25 I attended an international conference of nationalists in Thessaloniki, Greece. Also attending the conference were representatives of groups in Greece, Portugal, Romania, Flanders, Denmark, Netherlands, Germany, South Africa, and Austria. It was hoped that representatives of Russian groups also would be present, but none was able to attend. The Alliance was the only group in the United States represented. The conference was hosted by the Greek nationalist group Golden Dawn.

In a formal session on October 24 I spoke to approximately 200 representatives of other groups about the work of the Alliance and listened to many reports about the work of other organizations. On the following day I had informal conversations with a number of individuals. On October 26, I visited German and French nationalists in Augsburg, Germany, who had been unable to attend the conference.

Altogether this conference and the attendant traveling kept me away from the National Office for six days, but I believe that it was time well spent. Cooperation across national borders will become increasingly important for progress – and perhaps even for survival – in the future. But to be able to have meaningful cooperation in the future, we need to establish bonds of trust and understanding now. At least some headway was made in that direction at the Thessaloniki meeting, as I established several new contacts and further developed contacts I had made earlier this year at the NPD meeting in Passau, Germany.
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Cooperation across national borders will become increasingly
important for progress – and perhaps even for survival – in the future.

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Each time I visit a group in another country I learn new things and gain new insights into our struggle. In Greece, for example, there is a much stronger sense of ethnic consciousness in the general public than exists in the United States. This is especially true in northern Greece, in what used to be Macedonia, where Thessaloniki is located. Nationalism in this area reaches a Balkan intensity, and memory of the struggle for freedom from Turkish rule is still very strong.

A group of about 50 of us took a guided tour of a historical museum, the Museum of the Macedonian Struggle, and were lectured by both a museum guide and our host about the historical exhibits. Both were able to speak without inhibition about Macedonia’s liberation struggle and about the strong dislike Greeks have for Turks, with none of the disgusting Political Correctness which any museum guide in the United States would be bound by.

Despite the stronger sense of ethnic consciousness, Greece is more genetically mixed than the countries of northern Europe. The people I saw in Thessalonki ranged from tall, light-eyed blondes to people who were so dark I wasn’t sure whether they were Greeks or Gypsies – until I saw some real Gypsies and could note the distinct differences. Five hundred years of Turkish rule has taken a racial toll.

Much of the ethnic consciousness in Greece is based on culture: language, traditions, etc. Nevertheless, Golden Dawn is an organization with a clear, genetically based racial policy.

Speaking of genes, I saw a substantially higher percentage of very attractive women in Thessaloniki than I have seen in any part of the United States. While obesity seems almost to be the rule rather than the exception for women in the United States, I didn’t see a single obese woman in Thessaloniki. Most had long, slender, shapely legs, which they were proud to display: quite a contrast with the disgusting scenes one sees in every supermarket in America. I could almost believe that the ancient Greek practice of having young women as well as young men compete naked in athletic contests and thus develop a pride in possessing healthy and well-formed bodies is still effective today. I saw not a single Black or Asian in the city, although I was told that a few were there.

And speaking of language, that turned out to be much less a barrier than I had feared. Although simultaneous translation into Greek was provided when I delivered my talk to the conference, I found that I had little or no trouble in speaking with the other representatives. Most of the Greeks could speak English moderately well – although I had a little trouble with vendors and hotel clerks. I have hated to see the intrusion of American trash-culture into Europe, but the ease of communicating in English nearly everywhere certainly will make the development of international contacts easier.

Greece, despite its very rich and deep cultural roots, is in some ways a backward country: certainly where the utilization of modern technology is concerned. Whereas in America we take word processors, scanners, and laser printers for granted, they are by no means as common in Greece. Likewise, Internet access is far less common in Greece, even among urban professionals.

In other ways, however, Greece is far ahead of most other countries in Europe: in the lack of Jewish influence and the consequent greater degree of freedom the people have, for example. Whereas in Germany citizens are imprisoned for even the slightest transgression against Political Correctness, in Greece people are still free to say nearly anything they want. This makes Greece a convenient venue for international conferences of the sort I attended in Thessalonika. The Jews and their collaborators are working to change this, of course, just as they are in the United States.

One thing I discovered which the Jews have done for the Alliance in places like Greece is gives us name recognition. Every nationalist in Europe has heard about The Turner Diaries, for example. And being promoted by B’nai B’rith as the most dangerous organization in America also has helped.

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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by WolfHammer » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:04 pm

Golden Dawn is well-known and very popular in Serbia among nationalists.
They participated in the war in Bosnia on the side of Serbian volunteers.
But I always had doubt about them...
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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by RCavallius » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:12 pm

WolfHammer wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:04 pm
But I always had doubt about them...
What do you mean?
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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by WolfHammer » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:39 pm

First, they are related to crime.
Second, they have become too populist.
Now they are banned by law and the leaders are in prison.
They became classic nationalist populists...
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Re: GRECE or European New Right

Post by RCavallius » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:44 pm

WolfHammer wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:39 pm
First, they are related to crime.
Second, they have become too populist.
Now they are banned by law and the leaders are in prison.
They became classic nationalist populists...
Oh, I see. I don't know much about them or the laws in that part of the world.

I'm aware that most of Europe is pretty strict on things relating to National Socialist activism and "Holocaust denial." But, let me ask you this: if National Alliance Units were formed in Greece or Serbia, could the authorities shut them down even if they never committed any real crimes?
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