EM (Elon Musk, Economic Man) 12/16/23

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ADV December 16th, EM

Post by Trenton » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:07 pm

Good afternoon, everyone. I’m posting here about the most recent American Dissident Voices broadcast by Mr. Strom. I found it to be one of the most impactful I’ve yet listened to, even having heard many hours of Dr. Pierce’s broadcasts. The reason I’m posting this is to pose a question, of whether everyone thinks the main point of the recording is to talk about X/Twitter, and the consequences of Mr. Strom being banned from it, or to talk about the fundamental nature of leaders (economic or spiritual man, respectively). I ask because of the 2 people I have succeeded in getting to listen to the recording (I shared it all over the place and only 2 actually listened to it), both commented on the Elon Musk/Twitter situation, and neither had anything to say about the ideas of Brooks Adams, which I had thought to be the meat of the broadcast. I asked them both what they had thought about the latter point, and again, neither really commented on the ideas presented.

It seems to me that most people have a hard time thinking about abstract ideas and concepts, but no trouble with concrete facts. Obviously, my sample size is hardly scientific, this is just my observation.

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EM (Elon Musk, Economic Man) 12/16/23

Post by White Man 1 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:31 pm

THE TITLE OF TODAY’S program is “EM” — letters which are both the initials of Elon Musk and the initial letters of the expression “economic man,” a phrase popularized by the 19th century writer Brooks Adams. Adams contrasted the money-motivated, penny-counting “economic man” who dominates the latter stages of a civilization with “spiritual man,” the warrior-kings and philosophers and artists and poets and dreamers who found civilizations. And Elon Musk, creative though he may be in certain aspects of his life, is surely in the camp of “economic man.”

This came to light in a very personal way for me in the last two weeks. The short version is that X, the gigantic online discussion platform formerly known as Twitter, “permanently suspended” me within hours of an ADL attack on me. The powerful but largely discredited Jewish group published an article on November 30 attacking me for a couple of my posts on the platform, posts in which I’d done little more than express my sincerely held religious belief that Cosmotheism is the spiritual path forward for our people and offered a link to the Cosmotheist church Web site. That’s right, X, owned by Mr. EM himself, who’s recently called himself a “free speech absolutist” and who had a public feud with the ADL and with the Jewish power structure generally over their censorious and anti-White activities, has banned yours truly, Kevin Alfred Strom, because of a ridiculously tenuous and unbelievable claim that my support of the Cosmotheist church was somehow “funding hate.”

In the text version of this broadcast on nationalvanguard.org, I’ll show you screen shots of the ADL’s hit piece, along with my tweets which they quoted in the attack.


Shown above is a screenshot from the ADL’s hit piece, showing Mr. Strom’s dangerous “fundraising for hate” — that is, just mentioning the spiritual path of Cosmotheism.
The ADL stated:

Another premium account that appears to belong to neo-Nazi Kevin Strom encouraged users to join the Cosmotheist Church, calling it “a new religion for White people.” The Cosmotheist Church was the brainchild of William Pierce, founder of the neo-Nazi group National Alliance. Shop and donate links on the National Alliance and National Vanguard websites take users to a Cosmotheist Church site to complete their transactions. The National Alliance website says, “Click here to easily donate online to the Cosmotheist Church, the parent and spiritual basis of all our work.”

Below that paragraph the ADL places, as “proof” of my “fundraising for hate,” two tweets many months old in which I say just the following:

Young Whites are drugging and killing themselves in terrifying numbers. More than the drugs themslves, the cause is a lack of meaning in their lives and a culture of anti-White hate. The antidote is Cosmotheism, a new religion for White people.

I then link to the Cosmotheist church main page. The second tweet reads:

If you care about our people, you should look into Cosmotheism as a spiritual path for us.

And I then link to the book Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future, which I co-wrote and edited.

That’s it. That’s their “proof” that I am “fundraising for hate,” and must be banned from a platform where I have peacefully expressed my ideas for nine and a half years, even surviving the censorship of the leftist bureaucrats empowered by former CEO Jack Dorsey to weed out wrongthink. But when Mr. Free Speech EM comes to “power,” poof! — I’m gone within hours of the ADL saying “jump.”

The whole premise of the ADL article is risible on its face: i.e., that groups that the ADL doesn’t like shouldn’t be able to raise funds or sell products online, like all other groups are allowed and even encouraged to do. If someone says that the Mormon Church is his church, and shares a link to its Web site — or if someone else says that the Temple Beth El is his synagogue, and links to it — or if someone says that the Third Baptist Church, or the Church of Satan, for that matter, are the best churches around and you really ought to click this link and check them out — all of that is perfectly okay with Jonathan Greenblatt and his ADL. It doesn’t matter that these church’s Web sites have items for sale like Bibles or other books, or that they, like 99.9 per cent. of all church Web sites, accept donations. All of that is normal and expected and the ADL has no objection.

But if a church or other group is disliked by the ADL, perhaps because that church publishes books that expose some of the ADL’s criminal links and activities, then suddenly mentioning that church’s Web site or its bible or its donation page is somehow “funding hate” and must be strictly prohibited by all social media platforms. As I said, laughable on its face — but the ADL Jews have no sense of how their own bias and censoriousness is becoming more and more obvious to Americans generally, and they plow on, doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on attitudes and actions guaranteed to alienate the folks they used to fool with effortless ease. So, lucky for us, it always seems to be with Jews.

By the way, my banning was never announced to me in any communication from the company whatever, and they never responded to any of my subsequent communications. I found out about it by trying to post on the platform the day after the ADL hit piece appeared, and got a pop-up box saying that my action was “disallowed” because I had been “permanently suspended.” Now “permanently suspended” is one of those Orwellian terms, like “Affirmative Action,” that have no direct relationship to what they actually mean. But it’s even more ridiculous than “Affirmative Action,” since a “suspension” of any activity clearly implies that the activity will soon be resumed — so a “suspension” really can’t be “permanent.” But let that pass.

Now, I don’t claim that my being banned from X is of gigantic importance. I never spent much time on the platform. But I managed to get three or four thousand followers without really trying. I managed to be sort of quoted by Mr. Free Speech Absolutist himself. I got to directly challenge celebrity sellouts and fake leaders. And I do like the platform’s short-form restriction, which really helped me to be a better, more pithy writer — even an aphorist, and writing aphorisms is the hardest — and best — kind of writing.

In the final analysis, I still believe that Elon Musk’s feud with the ADL and the Jewish power structure is real. Recent comments of his indicate he’s still fuming. And that’s a good thing — it’s always good when anyone, especially someone with power and influence, is forced to come face to face with malevolent and out-of-control Jewish hate. Some good may yet come from this, despite my banning and the banning of many other good folks, including National Vanguard writer David Sims, who was banned months ago. Some good has already come from all this — millions of people have been shown in no uncertain terms that the driving force behind censorship of patriotic speech is Jewish. Millions of people!

So far, though, Elon Musk has been pushed into making a deal with the devil — and, after organizing a very effective corporate boycott of advertising on X and making some kind of deal with X’s new Musk-appointed CEO Linda Yaccarino, the ADL is back in the saddle deciding who can and who cannot speak on the platform. Musk, on the hook at X for dozens of billions in both cash and bank debt, has shown himself to be primarily an economic man — a “pragmatic” man, money-driven — rather than a spiritual man.

The founder of the National Alliance, Dr. William L. Pierce, had this to say about these two types of men:

One of my favorite authors is Brooks Adams, the 19th-century American economist and historian. In his book The Law of Civilization and Decay Adams put forth the idea that the spiritual climate of a particular period in history favors the survival and proliferation of men with a particular inner orientation, while driving men with a different orientation out of existence, much in the way the physical environment favors or disfavors a particular somatic trait.

Adams divided men roughly into two classes: spiritual man and economic man. The former are what I would call men of valor. Adams saw their epitome in the English yeomanry of the Middle Ages: freeholding farmer-warriors. They flourish during the period when a new civilization is being established.

The other class, economic man, epitomized by the merchants and bureaucrats who later replaced the yeomen, flourishes during the period of a civilization’s decay and collapse. Adams pinpointed democracy as an institution congenial to economic man but especially inimical to the existence of spiritual man.

The entire Western world — not just America — has been spiritually dead since the Second World War. Economic man has swarmed over its corpse, fattening himself on its material remains and multiplying mightily. Physical collapse may not yet be imminent, but the decadence is profound and irreversible. Valor, sorely needed to see us through the coming night and hold us to a worthy purpose until the new dawn, is a memory growing fainter by the decade.

As the West continues its slide into chaos, strong men, White and non-White, will rise to provide some degree of order and security for their adherents. Some will not be much more than local mafia chiefs; others will carve out regional or even national constituencies based on common economic interests, common ideologies, common ethnicities, or some combination of these.

In each case the leaders of these groups will be distinguished by valor of a sort. They will be men who have proved themselves tougher, more energetic and aggressive, and cleverer than their rivals. They will command respect as well as obedience from the members of their groups — which is more than can be said for America’s present ‘leaders.’

We will see more and more a return to leadership based on personal strength rather than institutional sanction — to natural leadership, the kind which existed among our people thousands of years ago, before we began building cities and writing laws, and which still exists among many non-White populations today. That’s also still the way it is in some more-or-less civilized areas just outside the borders of the Western world: in places like Lebanon, for example, and in Latin America.

Now, rule by mafia bosses may be fine for Levantines and Latins, but we need more than a valor based only on toughness, cleverness, and ambition. The West has no shortage of tough, clever, ambitious men. And we still have many who are physically strong and courageous — although perhaps not so many these days as we would like.

The valor we remember — and the valor we must have again — depends at least as much on moral courage as on physical courage. Even more, it depends on the inner sense of direction which must guide the man of valor, if his courage and strength are to be used to a worthy end.

Originally the word valor meant value, worth. A man’s worth was a measure not of what he owned or controlled, however — not of how many shares he could buy in the stock market or how many votes he could collect at the polls — but of what he was.

The ideal man of valor is guided unerringly by his inner compass. He is imperturbable and implacable. His loyalty to his cause is his honor, and his actions are as unaffected by considerations of personal comfort or safety as by the opinions of lesser men.

How can we have such men to lead us in this age of Jewish television, democracy, and the supremacy of the marketplace?

A man does not acquire valor simply by making a resolution to act valorously; it is the product of a lifetime of right living and right thinking by a man born with the right stuff in him.

Surely, men of our race are still being born with the right stuff. Economic man may be forcing spiritual man out of existence generation by generation, but the process is not complete yet.

Our problem is to provide an environment which does not stunt or warp the spirits of our best men and women. The environment which prevails in America today produces from our best stock merely lawyers tricky enough to out-shyster the trickiest Jew, businessmen hard-driving enough to beat out the most grasping Levantine competitor, professionals in every field willing to jettison scruples and truckle to alien arbiters in order to stay ahead of the pack. Children raised on a steady diet of MTV simply do not become men or women of valor.

When the chaos in America has grown to the point that there is no longer steady work for lawyers and corporation executives, the same stock will yield merely gang leaders meaner and tougher than the meanest and toughest mafioso rival, if the spiritual climate remains unchanged.

What we must do, no matter what it takes, is change that climate. We must devise a way to nurture the best seed that we have and to provide a regimen and a tutoring, an upbringing and an inculcation, for the yield of that seed which will once again give us men of real valor, in the best sense of the word.

And there we get back to the real point, the point I was making when the slimy gnomes at the ADL were screenshotting my posts: the only possible way forward for our people — Cosmotheism. A religion which makes its highest principles the continued existence and upward progress of our race; a religion which makes explicit what was only implicit in prior White civilizations, and which must be explicit if we are to survive; a religion which alone reveals our race’s ascent upward toward higher and higher levels of understanding to be the very meaning of the Universe itself; a religion which alone can inspire new generations of White men and women to the sacrifices necessary to continue our kind on this planet — and beyond.

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Re: ADV December 16th, EM

Post by Will Williams » Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:04 pm

Trenton wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:07 pm
Good afternoon, everyone. I’m posting here about the most recent American Dissident Voices broadcast by Mr. Strom. I found it to be one of the most impactful I’ve yet listened to, even having heard many hours of Dr. Pierce’s broadcasts. The reason I’m posting this is to pose a question, of whether everyone thinks the main point of the recording is to talk about X/Twitter, and the consequences of Mr. Strom being banned from it, or to talk about the fundamental nature of leaders (economic or spiritual man, respectively). I ask because of the 2 people I have succeeded in getting to listen to the recording (I shared it all over the place and only 2 actually listened to it), both commented on the Elon Musk/Twitter situation, and neither had anything to say about the ideas of Brooks Adams, which I had thought to be the meat of the broadcast. I asked them both what they had thought about the latter point, and again, neither really commented on the ideas presented.

It seems to me that most people have a hard time thinking about abstract ideas and concepts, but no trouble with concrete facts. Obviously, my sample size is hardly scientific, this is just my observation.
Thanks, Trenton. You are a deeper thinker that those you attempted to influence, even the two you expected to appreciate the wisdom Pierce had imparted from one of his favorite authors, Brooks Adams. Keep trying to gently persuade those two who at least listened to Kevin's latest ADV: https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/12/em ... nomic-man/ That's progress.

I've found that working with those who are already attracted to our Alliance, like yourself, to be more productive and fulfilling and less frustrating than trying to convince disinterested, non-race-thinkers -- what salesmen describe as "cold calls" -- that we are right. Even If after listening to Pierce's talks, like here: www.video.natal.com and being convinced that our Founder was right, if the latter don't then try to contact the Alliance to see about joining with us, the seed has at least been planted. It takes more time for the responsibility seed to germinate with some than with others. Don't be discouraged if some can't see what you see.

I enjoy working with NA members with whom that seed has grown into a flowering plant, ready for useful harvest (to proudly fly the Alliance banner).


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Re: ADV December 16th, EM

Post by Trenton » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:03 pm

Will Williams wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:04 pm
Trenton wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:07 pm
Good afternoon, everyone. I’m posting here about the most recent American Dissident Voices broadcast by Mr. Strom. I found it to be one of the most impactful I’ve yet listened to, even having heard many hours of Dr. Pierce’s broadcasts. The reason I’m posting this is to pose a question, of whether everyone thinks the main point of the recording is to talk about X/Twitter, and the consequences of Mr. Strom being banned from it, or to talk about the fundamental nature of leaders (economic or spiritual man, respectively). I ask because of the 2 people I have succeeded in getting to listen to the recording (I shared it all over the place and only 2 actually listened to it), both commented on the Elon Musk/Twitter situation, and neither had anything to say about the ideas of Brooks Adams, which I had thought to be the meat of the broadcast. I asked them both what they had thought about the latter point, and again, neither really commented on the ideas presented.

It seems to me that most people have a hard time thinking about abstract ideas and concepts, but no trouble with concrete facts. Obviously, my sample size is hardly scientific, this is just my observation.
Thanks, Trenton. You are a deeper thinker that those you attempted to influence, even the two you expected to appreciate the wisdom Pierce had imparted from one of his favorite authors, Brooks Adams. Keep trying to gently persuade those two who at least listened to Kevin's latest ADV: https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/12/em ... nomic-man/ That's progress.

I've found that working with those who are already attracted to our Alliance, like yourself, to be more productive and fulfilling and less frustrating than trying to convince disinterested, non-race-thinkers -- what salesmen describe as "cold calls" -- that we are right. Even If after listening to Pierce's talks, like here: www.video.natal.com and being convinced that our Founder was right, if the latter don't then try to contact the Alliance to see about joining with us, the seed has at least been planted. It takes more time for the responsibility seed to germinate with some than with others. Don't be discouraged if some can't see what you see.

I enjoy working with NA members with whom that seed has grown into a flowering plant, ready for useful harvest (to proudly fly the Alliance banner).


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Thank you Chairman. I’m pleased to say that I’ve convinced a friend of mine to tentatively set up a time to stream the broadcast in his Discord server. We’ll just have to see how many people show up. On that note, if you know any other ADV messages, recent or classic, that you think some nationalists with very little knowledge about the Alliance would benefit from hearing, feel free to send me links. I remember in some of Pierce’s recordings, he sometimes mentioned that some listeners would get together whole listening parties every week.

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Re: ADV December 16th, EM

Post by Will Williams » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:46 pm

Trenton wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:03 pm
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Thank you Chairman. I’m pleased to say that I’ve convinced a friend of mine to tentatively set up a time to stream the broadcast in his Discord server. We’ll just have to see how many people show up. On that note, if you know any other ADV messages, recent or classic, that you think some nationalists with very little knowledge about the Alliance would benefit from hearing, feel free to send me links. I remember in some of Pierce’s recordings, he sometimes mentioned that some listeners would get together whole listening parties every week.
Yes, having a small group listen to a Pierce talk together, then discussing it afterwards is effective, depending on who is in the group. Video.natall.com slide shows make this easy to watch and listen. Or playing one of the 240 Pierce talks from the 12-volume Power of Truth CDs can be just as effective. An NA Local Unit can do this at its monthly gathering and have prospective members watch it with its members who are already on board.

I have no idea what a Discord server is but am pleased that you and other young Alliance members are using new electronic methods to reach your White peers.

I don't have a cell phone so have never scanned a QR symbol and have no idea how it (Quick Response) works, but am proud that we have it on what our enemies call a "hate" sticker that leads the person who scans it to Dr. Pierce's classic "Our Cause" talk:


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Re: EM (Elon Musk, Economic Man) 12/16/23

Post by Will Williams » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:32 pm

KAS said:
I don’t claim that my being banned from X is of gigantic importance. I never spent much time on the platform. But I managed to get three or four thousand followers without really trying.
Interesting.

I've never spent any time on Twitter or on Elon's X, and never will, so I will never get any followers from there or from Faceberg, or from any of those other social media that we do not control, like we do here at WhiteBiocentrism.com.

Of Kevin's three or four thousand followers on X I am aware of none (0) -- not a singe one of them -- who has joined the National Alliance or who has even registered here at WB.

Who are all those X 'Netizens going to follow now that Kevin has been permanently suspended from Elon's <cough!> free speech forum.

Kevin, did you manage to invite any of your thousands of X followers over here to follow you before you were bounced?

PS. I searched WB for 'social media' and went all the way to page 24 in that search to find this: viewtopic.php?f=66&t=5594&p=24678&hilit ... ia#p24678/

I can't disagree with the person who wrote this:https: //www.dowsocial.com/why-your-social-media ... worthless/
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Re: EM (Elon Musk, Economic Man) 12/16/23

Post by White_Vengeance » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:05 am

Will Williams wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:32 pm
KAS said:
I don’t claim that my being banned from X is of gigantic importance. I never spent much time on the platform. But I managed to get three or four thousand followers without really trying.
Interesting.

I've never spent any time on Twitter or on Elon's X, and never will, so I will never get any followers from there or from Faceberg, or from any of those other social media that we do not control, like we do here at WhiteBiocentrism.com.

Of Kevin's three or four thousand followers on X I am aware of none (0) -- not a singe one of them -- who has joined the National Alliance or who has even registered here at WB.

Who are all those X 'Netizens going to follow now that Kevin has been permanently suspended from Elon's <cough!> free speech forum.

Kevin, did you manage to invite any of your thousands of X followers over here to follow you before you were bounced?

PS. I searched WB for 'social media' and went all the way to page 24 in that search to find this: viewtopic.php?f=66&t=5594&p=24678&hilit ... ia#p24678/

I can't disagree with the person who wrote this:https: //www.dowsocial.com/why-your-social-media ... worthless/
Since not all of us are Social Media mavens--and that would especially include me--perhaps you might comment on the usage of the uppercase letter "X" as an identifying symbol for something that bespeaks a strange manner of crytology in the world of Social Media. The only interactive Websites I use are the White Biocentrism Site and the Stormfront White Nationalist Site; so, as you see, I am definitely not one to squander his precious time going from Site-to-Site-to-Site as do many of the countless hundreds-and-hundreds-of-thousands of so-called "White Nationalists" who little more than "keyboard warriors." While my limited usage of interactive Websites does have its benefits, the apparent drawback is that I struggle to stay up-to-date on all the cryptic and pseudonymous language that is routinely used and that now passes for "normal" English.

At this stage, though, some of the strange Internet jargon that keyboard warriors use in their poorly-written posts, and that I read on many days, just further proves my points.
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