SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

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SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

Post by Will Williams » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:57 pm

In the same newly published issue of its misnamed, quarterly Intelligence Report, called The Year in Hate and Extremism 2015, is a feature article about the reemergence of the National Alliance, along with this interesting article about Reddit: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/i ... 015/spring

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BLACK HOLE
by Keegan Hankes

The most violently racist internet content isn't found on sites like Stormfront and VNN any more.
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Reddit [is] a huge online bulletin board owned by mass media giant Condé Nast, which also owns Vanity Fair,
The New Yorker and 20 other print and online publications that reach an estimated 95 million consumers.
Reddit has been hailed as the last bastion of free speech on the Internet
One section of the Web forum is dedicated to watching black men die, while another is called “CoonTown” and features users wondering if there are any states left that are “nigger free.” One conversation focuses on the state of being “Negro Free,” while another is about how best to bring attention to the assertion that black people are more prone to commit sexual assaults than whites.

But these discussions aren’t happening on Stormfront, which since its founding in 1995 by a former Alabama Klan leader has been the largest hate forum on the Web. They’re taking place on Reddit, a huge online bulletin board owned by mass media giant Condé Nast, which also owns Vanity Fair, The New Yorker and 20 other print and online publications that reach an estimated 95 million consumers. Reddit has been hailed as the last bastion of free speech on the Internet, an unregulated and vibrant community of users who post whatever they want and rely on the community around them to police their content.

The world of online hate, long dominated by website forums like Stormfront and its smaller neo-Nazi rival Vanguard News Network (VNN), has found a new — and wildly popular — home on the Internet. Reddit boasts the 9th highest Alexa Internet traffic ranking in the United States and the 36th worldwide. Many of Reddit’s racist subreddits are among its most popular.

Reddit is a news site that hosts user-submitted links and discussion, organized into specific communities of interest comprised of “subreddits,” which are ranked by votes from users. If a reader believes content is a constructive contribution, he or she can “upvote” it, pushing the content further up the page. Conversely, if a user thinks that content is either off-topic or is not constructive, it can be “downvoted,” causing it to sink further down the page.

Content on Reddit is “moderated based on quality, not opinion,” according to the working document that dictates community guidelines, called “Reddiquette.” This idea of user-policed communities that contain high-quality, diverse content is part of the ethos Reddit has worked hard to project. “We power awesome communities,” reads the graphic atop its “about” page.

But awesome communities for whom?

The ‘Chimpire’

Along with countless others with entirely different interests, Reddit increasingly is providing a home for anti-black racists — and some of the most virulent and violent propaganda around. In November 2013, a hyper-racist subreddit called “GreatApes” was formed. Users posted epithet-strewn links to “news” stories of dubious origin that riffed on long established stereotypes about the black community. GreatApes was wildly popular and grew quickly, expanding into a much larger Reddit network called “the Chimpire,” which was organized by a user known only by his or her posting name of “Jewish_NeoCon2.”

“We feel it’s time to expand our sphere of influence and lebensraum [the Nazi term for “living space”] on reddit. Thus we have decided to create ‘the Chimpire,’ a network of nigger related subreddits,” Jewish_NeoCon2 wrote at the time. “Want to read people’s experiences with niggers? There now is an affiliated subreddit for it. Want to watch chimp nature documentaries? We got it. Nigger hate facts? IT’S THERE. … Oh yes you bet we got videos of ghetto niggers fighting each other. Nigger drama on reddit? There’s a sub. Sheboons? Gibsmedat.”

Within a year, the Chimpire network had grown to include 46 active subreddits spanning an alarming range of racist topics, including “Teenapers,” “ApeWrangling,” “Detoilet,” and “Chicongo,” along with subreddits for both “TrayvonMartin” and “ferguson,” each of them dealing with the controversial and highly publicized shooting deaths of unarmed black teenagers.

Then, last November, Reddit’s most racist community evolved once again, adding the subreddit called CoonTown in the aftermath of a dispute between several top moderators at GreatApes. In just four days, CoonTown had reached 1,000 subscribers. And its popularity continues to grow.

According to Reddit Metrics, as of Jan. 6, there were 552,829 subreddits. CoonTown, with its 3,287 subscribers, ranked 6,279th, placing it in the top 2% of subreddits. It is the 680th fastest-growing subreddit on the site despite — or because of — violently racist material including a large number of threads dedicated to videos of black-on-black violence.

These gruesome videos show black men being hit in the head repeatedly with a hammer, burned alive, and killed in a variety of other ways. The subreddit’s banner features a cartoon of a black man hanging, complete with a Klansman in the background. One fairly typical user, “Bustatruggalo” applauded the graphic violence as “[v]ery educational and entertaining.” He or she continued on a separate thread: “I almost feel bad for letting an image like this fill me with an overwhelming amount of joy. Almost….”

Others, like user “natchil,” were looking for still more. “Where is watchjewsdie?” this user wondered.

'Remember the Human'

There are some limits. “No calls for violence,” the CoonTown subreddit’s description reads. “It’s prohibited by Reddit’s site-wide rules.”

Everything up to violence, however, is very much there, including the horrific content found on other Chimpire subreddits like “WatchNiggersDie” — content which is rarely, if ever, matched on forums like Stormfront and VNN, which worry about being shut down or driving off potential allies.

That’s despite the Reddiquette section’s first rule, which implores Reddit users to “Remember the human.” “When you communicate online, all you see is a computer screen,” it says. “When talking to someone you might want to ask yourself ‘Would I say it to the person’s face?’ or ‘Would I get jumped if I said this to a buddy?’”

If Reddit’s rules seem relaxed, that’s because they are meant to be. Still, although users are asked to “remember the human,” there is little humanity in the way the subjects of subreddits like CoonTown are treated.

In June 2013, however, after an extended, public controversy, Reddit did ban the subreddit “Niggers” when large numbers of its denizens began overrunning another subreddit, “BlackGirls,” with racist posts that were apparently not being policed by its moderators. “Brigading” — when large groups of people from one subreddit gang up to downvote comments on another subreddit that they don’t normally visit — is prohibited by Reddit. Users of the Niggers subreddit also engaged in “vote manipulation,” which falsely raises the popularity of a post by soliciting like-minded users to blindly upvote it. After repeated warnings and “shadow-banning,” or making a user’s posts invisible to everyone but the author, the subreddit was finally banned. According to Jewish_NeoCon2, more than a few former members of the Niggers subreddit have now taken up residence at CoonTown.

A Reluctance to Intervene

Condé Nast, one of the largest mass media companies in the United States, acquired Reddit in 2006, although the Internet company still operates independently. The stability of such a well-established and respected media firm, as well as the funding of many high-profile investors, including a $50 million investment from the rapper Snoop Lion this October, appears to guarantee Reddit’s future.

A request for comment on the Chimpire was directed to Patricia Rockenwagner, a member of Condé Nast’s public relations department, but she referred it to Victoria Taylor, Reddit’s head of communications. Taylor did not respond to requests for comment.

Last year, however, Yishan Wong, Reddit’s CEO, took to the subreddit “TheoryofReddit,” to explain that Reddit was in the red. He revealed that in exchange for its relative operational independence from Condé Nast, the site was responsible for its own bills. The site’s goal, according to Wong, is to pay its own way and its primary engine for accomplishing that is through ads, a premium subscription option, and the Reddit gift exchange.

Racist websites and organizations do sometimes benefit from racist subreddits like the Chimpire. That’s because subreddit users often post links to other racist sites, and those links drive traffic to those other sites, which in turn typically sell merchandise in addition to pushing racist ideology and recruiting.

It’s hard to dispute that Reddit does offer a venue for remarkably lively and unbridled conversation, and that dissident commentary that might not be tolerated elsewhere finds a welcome home there. Richard Spencer, a racist ideologue who heads the National Policy Institute, held an “AMA” (Ask Me Anything) session on Reddit last November, and although his views are widely regarded as loathsome, he was calm and understated in his discussion of far-right European politics. Unlike in WatchNiggersDie, there were no links to videos of brutal killings or other visual images meant to degrade the humanity of minorities.

Reddit is often hailed as one of the last bastions of truly free speech, and its owners’ hesitance to jeopardize that status is understandable given the loyal following it has inspired. Reddit has removed content that has been illegally appropriated from commercial interests, such as the revelations that emerged from the November hack of Sony Pictures Entertainment.

The Internet is awash in racist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic and other hateful content, but much of it is relatively tame. Subreddits such the Chimpire offer a window on to just how awful some of the darkest corners of the Web really are.
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Martin Graves

Re: SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

Post by Martin Graves » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:41 pm

Quite an interesting read on the SPLC, despite how biased it was. Perhaps setting up a subreddit would be a good idea for us. I have no doubt that making a National Alliance subreddit would help attract potential members - especially those in their thirties, twenties, or even younger.

Benjamin Bice

Re: SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

Post by Benjamin Bice » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:04 pm

I should join Reddit. I think they sound awesome. Racist free speech needs to be protected and allowed. I think that is true even for black racist speech, if for no other reason than to show people how stupid black racists are.

Michael Olanich

Re: SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

Post by Michael Olanich » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:22 pm

What the hell is Reddit?

Martin Graves

Re: SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

Post by Martin Graves » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:14 pm

Michael Olanich wrote:What the hell is Reddit?
Reddit is known as "the front page of the internet". It's kind of a geek's news website, where a user can stay updated on topics they like by subscribing to different "subreddits" - different pages that pertain to a specific subject. Some popular subreddits include /r/funny, /r/space, and /r/gifs.

Reddit is pretty much an echo chamber, however. Dissident opinions (especially on the more mainstream subreddits) are usually "downvoted" by many users and hidden from view. That's why I would suggest using something like 8chan instead of/in addition to reddit. While 8chan is more obscure, it's free (as in beer and freedom), and only content that directly violates the DMCA or other US laws is deleted. Not to mention that you can't "downvote" or otherwise hide other people's posts (unless you're a mod, of course).

I quickly made up this to reiterate my points:
reddit vs 8chan.png
reddit vs 8chan.png (48.21 KiB) Viewed 8993 times
Full disclosure: I have been using "chans" since 2008 (currently 8chan; previously 4chan), and reddit since 2013. I prefer 8chan.

Something to look into for sure. And let the record show that I certainly wouldn't mind helping out with any of this. :D

Michael Olanich

Re: SPLC reports on BLACK HOLE

Post by Michael Olanich » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:00 pm

William Gayley Simpson wrote:
Michael Olanich wrote:What the hell is Reddit?
Reddit is known as "the front page of the internet". It's kind of a geek's news website, where a user can stay updated on topics they like by subscribing to different "subreddits" - different pages that pertain to a specific subject. Some popular subreddits include /r/funny, /r/space, and /r/gifs.

Reddit is pretty much an echo chamber, however. Dissident opinions (especially on the more mainstream subreddits) are usually "downvoted" by many users and hidden from view. That's why I would suggest using something like 8chan instead of/in addition to reddit. While 8chan is more obscure, it's free (as in beer and freedom), and only content that directly violates the DMCA or other US laws is deleted. Not to mention that you can't "downvote" or otherwise hide other people's posts (unless you're a mod, of course).

I quickly made up this to reiterate my points:
reddit vs 8chan.png
Full disclosure: I have been using "chans" since 2008 (currently 8chan; previously 4chan), and reddit since 2013. I prefer 8chan.

Something to look into for sure. And let the record show that I certainly wouldn't mind helping out with any of this. :D
I see. Reminds me of subbing to those RSS feeds, except this site organizes them or provides other features like commenting, thumbing up, etc. If it has the possibility of reaching some quality people then I'd say by all means go for it (the Reddit for now, not the 8chan).

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