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"Nazi"

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:47 pm
by Mike Sullivan
Nazi (also the cognates Nazism and Neo-Nazism) is a political epithet invented by Konrad Heiden✡ (7 August 1901 – 18 June 1966) during the 1920s as a means of denigrating the NSDAP and National Socialism. Heiden was a journalist and member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, whose mother was a Jewess. The term is both an imitation of the nickname given to Marxists of the SDP at the time, Sozi, and a political pun similar to the Austro-Bavarian word for "simpleton", derived from the fairly common name Ignatz (German language form of Ignatius). It was then popularised abroad by various Judaics and other subversives, including Heiden himself, who fled the country after the NSDAP were elected to government.

The term was regarded as a derogatory epithet by National Socialists and was used almost exclusively by Marxist agitators. Typically the use of Nazi Germany, and Nazi regime, was popularized by Jewish émigrés from Germany after 1933., especially in English-speaking countries. From them, it spread into other languages.

A rare example of its usage by a NSDAP member can be taken from a 1931 work by Joseph Goebbels called The Nazi-Sozi: Questions and Answers for National Socialists. Since the rise of Cultural Marxism the term has been used as a broad Europhobic epithet, eminating from the same quarters, to demonise European people in general and attack leaders who advocate their socio-economic and cultural interests, far beyond the bounds of actual National Socialists. Some have ironically turned the phrase back on its inventors, through the use of "Nazi" as an abbreviation for National Zionism.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nazi

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:15 pm
by Reinhard
Exposing the “Nazi” Epithet – Who started it, why, how, and who benefits
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As a German child growing up in a foreign country during the 60s, I was often called a “Nazi” by some of my peers when they learned that I was German. It was of course, simply ignorant repetition or “parroting” of what was said on TV in hundreds of TV shows, Hollywood movies, alleged ‘documentaries’, in newspaper and magazine articles, as well as in radio programs, not to mention classroom indoctrination, and probably by their parents too. The libraries, of course, were also full of books which spoke of “Nazis” (and still are). So to deny that there was ever such thing as a “Nazi”, to most people, would be akin to denying the moon-landing, or perhaps more accurately, like telling a frightened child that “no monster under the bed” or “no ghost in the closet”. And one would then not only be thought as a “Nazi”, but also a lunatic, because after all, “everyone knows Hitler was an evil Nazi, and a madman, and a war monger and he wanted to take over the world, yada yada yada!”. Well, if truth, justice, and honest history (as opposed to “convenient history) mean anything any more, then we need to un-learn this term, and to stop parroting it like little children, using it for convenience sake, and especially, from using it as a repressive weapon for the purposes of “stifling dissent”; the very thing everyone wants to accuse “evil Nazis” of having done!

It’s time to debunk the “Nazi” epithet, and to show you where it came from, who invented it, and why. The fact is, that the term “Nazi” was created by the enemies of the National Socialists (the NSDAP). It was a pejorative term; an insult or a slur. The Germans, not even Hitler nor any other top party officials ever called themselves “Nazis”! They called themselves “National Socialists” and nothing else. Those who can read German and have studied any of the original documents and speeches know this already, but most don’t.

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Jewish journalist Konrad Heiden

“The term “Nazi” (along with “Nazism”) is a political epithet invented by Konrad Heiden (7 August 1901 – 18 June 1966) during the 1920s as a means of denigrating the NSDAP and National Socialism. Heiden was a journalist and member of the Social Democratic Party. The term is a variant of the nickname that was used in reference to members of the SDP at the time “Sozi” (short for Sozialisten). “Nazi” was a political pun, based upon the Austro-Bavarian slang word for “simpleton” or “country bumpkin”, and derived from the fairly common name Ignatz. It would be like saying “nutsy”. So, if for no other reason, one should easily understand why the term was regarded as derogatory by the National Socialists and why they would never use it to describe themselves. One should also see why it would be used and popularized by Marxist-Bolshevik agitators and understand how it was seized upon by various other political opponents and subversive types, both within Germany and abroad, including the international media and political leaders of the western powers.” (Metapedia)

It should immediately become apparent that, if there is no such thing as a “Nazi”, except in the propaganda which was invented and spewed by this man, then it follows logically, that there is also NO such thing as a “Neo-Nazi” either. Those who would describe themselves as such are as ignorant as those who say they hate “Nazis” and they are equally decieved. Indeed, I highly suspect that some of those who promote “Neo-Nazism” are really agents whose job it is to keep the spectre of evil “Nazis” alive, and to effect the demonization of all those who would dare question the whole history about Hitler, the NS and WWII that we have all been sold.

What we must also know about Mr. Heiden, however, is that he was not just any other political opponent in the days of the Weimar Republic. He, himself was a Jew, and his father was a trade unionist, and that the trade unions were teaming with subversive, violent, Marxist-Bolsheviks. And NO, that is not “racist” statement, nor is intended to promote hatred. Merely to sate the facts. If you want to make such childish accusations then please start with attacking Wikipedia.

Wikipedia states that:
  • “Konrad Heiden (7 August 1901 – 18 June 1966) was an influential Jewish journalist and historian of the Weimar Republic and Nazi eras, most noted for the first influential biographies of German dictator Adolf Hitler. Often, he wrote under the pseudonym “Klaus Bredow.”

    Heiden was born in Munich, Germany, on 7 August 1901, and graduated from the University of Munich in 1923. His father was a union organizer, while his mother had a Jewish background. At the university, he organized a republican and democratic student body and became a member of the Social Democratic Party.

    Heiden was one of the first critical observers of the rise of National Socialism in Germany after he attended a party’s meeting in 1920. He worked for the Frankfurter Zeitung and the Vossischen Zeitung, but became a freelancer in 1932. A year later, he went into exile; first to Saarland, then to Switzerland, then to France, and finally to the United States.

    Heiden’s book, “The New Inquisition”, published jointly by Modern Age Books, Inc. and Alliance Book Corporation, in New York in 1939, with a translation from German by Heinz Norden, includes a series of personal, but necessarily anonymous accounts by German Jews of violent persecution under the Nazi regime accelerating from the time of the fall of 1938 and an eerie and accurate prediction of the Final Solution planned by the Nazi regime:

    To drive 600,000 people by robbery into hunger, by hunger into desperation, by desperation into wild outbreaks, and by such outbreaks into the waiting knife — such is the cooly calculated plan. Mass murder is the goal, a massacre such as history has not seen — certainly not since Tamerlane and Mithridates. We can only venture guesses as to the technical forms these mass executions are to take. In his book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler suggested that the people to be killed be kept “under poisonous gas”; however, he speaks of a mere twelve to fifteen thousand. Doubtless the destructive instinct in the ruling class of the regime has grown in the meantime…”
There are a number of things there that should immediately send up “RED flags”! But let’s just look at the most blatant distortion of the fact. As I recently demonstrated with an article from the largest German-Jewish organization in 1933 (at the time when Hitler came to power and when Heiden set about telling his lies) defended Germany, and said to the world that they were doing fine, and they appealed for end to the atrocity propaganda. By the way, the Jewish population was less than 600,000 as Heiden had said.

Now let’s look Adolf Hitler actually did say, and in what context he said it He was discussing World War I, in which he himself had courageously fought, and had been decorated numerous times for his bravery :
  • “The fact that the German people carried on the War proved that the Marxist folly had not yet been able to penetrate deeply. But as the War was prolonged German soldiers and workers gradually fell back into the hands of the Marxist leaders, and the number of those who thus relapsed became lost to their country. At the beginning of the War, or even during the War, if twelve or fifteen thousand of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison-gas, just as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from every social stratum and from every trade and calling had to face it in the field, then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: If twelve thousand of these malefactors had been eliminated in proper time probably the lives of a million decent men,who would be of value to Germany in the future, might have been saved. But it was in accordance with bourgeois ‘statesmanship’ to hand over, without the twitch of an eyelid, millions of human beings to be slaughtered on the battlefields, while they looked upon ten or twelve thousand public traitors, profiteers, usurers and swindlers, as the dearest and most sacred national treasure and proclaimed their persons to be inviolable. Indeed it would be hard to say what is the most outstanding feature of these bourgeois circles: mental debility, moral weakness and cowardice, or a mere down-at-heel mentality. It is a class that is certainly doomed to go under but, unhappily, it drags down the whole nation with it into the abyss.” (Mein Kampf, James Murphy Translation, 1939, Page 518)
Do we see the difference? And do we see the deception at work? Do we see the intention to mislead the world at large?

Regarding the camps, Heiden gives no mention to the fact those people being interned in labour camps were subversives. Nor to the fact that these people could be, and were often released back to their communities. I will have more on that, however, in a future post. Also ignored is the fact that such camps were far more common and horrific in the Soviet Union, with little or no hope of getting out. And of course, such camps had been invented and used very cruelly by the Brits, and also the American hypocrites too.

Regarding the ‘Frankfurter Zeitung’, “during the period of the Weimar Republic, the paper was treated with hostility by nationalist circles because it had pronounced itself in favour of the Treaty of Versailles in 1918. At that time it no longer stood in opposition to the government and supported Gustav Stresemann’s policy of reconciliation.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurter_Zeitung

As to the ‘Vossische Zeitung’, it was based in Berlin which was a bastion of decadence in the Weimar period. It catered to the liberal-Bourgeois crowd and was very “international” in it’s views. “Until the second year of the Third Reich’s reign over Germany, the publication was generally regarded as Germany’s national newspaper of record, just as The Times and Le Temps were to Great Britain and France, respectively. “
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vossische_Zeitung

Now, you may want to dismiss me as being a “biased German”, and I am sure that some will reflexively shriek that I am an “anti-Semite” (which I am not) for daring to bring up this man’s background, and questioning his character and motives, but any objective observer who has done his or her own research, and who is at all familiar with the realities of the Weimar Republic, and with the true, publicly stated objectives of the National Socialists should immediately see that there was a huge conflict of interest there and bias on Heidens part. And that bias and his special interests would not only cause him to engage in childish name calling and insults such as “Nazi!”, but far more serious and injurious behaviours, such as LYING HIS ASS OFF off to foment another World War, that would eventually cost nearly 60,000,000 million lives, incalculable misery world wide, and a bogus legacy that still haunts us all today.

No, Mr. Heiden was certainly NOT an objective “journalist”, he was a “propagandist” and an “opportunist”! For if he was really concerned with “human rights” then where and when did he criticize the bloody red Bolsheviks and the brutal genocide of tens of millions of Christian Russians and the starvation of the 7 million Ukrainians? Much less the plight of the starving, unemployed, destitute and desperate Germans who were being held as slaves in their own country by the dictates of the Versailles Treaty and the dealings of self-described “Jewish” bankers and financial barons of Wall Street, London and Paris, while at the same time, being primed for Bolshevism by the Comintern and the trade unions. The bloody Russian Revolution was brought about by those very same Ueber-Kapitalist scoundrels, who also fomented World War I. Hitler had been openly discussing these things and fighting then from the beginning! Do you think just maybe they may have had a little something against him and the National Socialists, hmmm?

All things being equal, Heiden should NEVER have been given much (if any) credibility for his claims, as he and his interests (ie the status quo) were under the threat by the NSDAP. It was entirely in his interest, and that of his father, his family, his associates, etc to smear the National Socialists, both at home and abroad, to preserve their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Not only that, but also with a major interest in perpetuating his lies after the war too, in order to continually justify it.

One would have to be very naive to not know that he found a waiting and welcome soapbox in America, partly because of who controls the media there, but more importantly, because America, after World War I and especially during the Great Depression had fallen totally into the hands of the International Bankster Gangsters who happen to call themselves “Jews” (…and are not). The very same bunch of crooks who gave you the Federal Reserve and which rules you today, as well as Germany, and most other countries. The National Socialists had a rescue plan for their people and their economy, which threatened their hegemony and the long-term global plans, ie the NWO agenda. Are we getting it yet?

Heiden was not alone in his efforts either. As soon as Hitler came to power, many of the most influential Jews bailed out and headed straight to America, to literally “raise hell”. That, of course, takes us back to what I had stated in my earlier post “World War II started in 1933!” (which detailed the world wide Jewish initiated boycotts). And for the Germans, that war has never ended. Nor will it, until people really begin to grasp the level of deception that has gone on, and is still being used to manipulate the world today.

http://justice4germans.com/2013/04/16/e ... -benefits/

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:50 pm
by David York
Thanks for bumping this thread. I didn't know the history of the word Nazi. But now it is more clear to me. The term Nazi and Neo-Nazi are not even accurate words to describe neo-national socialists. Sorry I didn't realize this issue was already discussed here on whitebiocentrism. It was just something i was thinking about. But the info here is fascinating. Thank you!

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:26 am
by David York
Reinhard wrote:Exposing the “Nazi” Epithet – Who started it, why, how, and who benefits
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As a German child growing up in a foreign country during the 60s, I was often called a “Nazi” by some of my peers when they learned that I was German. It was of course, simply ignorant repetition or “parroting” of what was said on TV in hundreds of TV shows, Hollywood movies, alleged ‘documentaries’, in newspaper and magazine articles, as well as in radio programs, not to mention classroom indoctrination, and probably by their parents too. The libraries, of course, were also full of books which spoke of “Nazis” (and still are). So to deny that there was ever such thing as a “Nazi”, to most people, would be akin to denying the moon-landing, or perhaps more accurately, like telling a frightened child that “no monster under the bed” or “no ghost in the closet”. And one would then not only be thought as a “Nazi”, but also a lunatic, because after all, “everyone knows Hitler was an evil Nazi, and a madman, and a war monger and he wanted to take over the world, yada yada yada!”. Well, if truth, justice, and honest history (as opposed to “convenient history) mean anything any more, then we need to un-learn this term, and to stop parroting it like little children, using it for convenience sake, and especially, from using it as a repressive weapon for the purposes of “stifling dissent”; the very thing everyone wants to accuse “evil Nazis” of having done!

It’s time to debunk the “Nazi” epithet, and to show you where it came from, who invented it, and why. The fact is, that the term “Nazi” was created by the enemies of the National Socialists (the NSDAP). It was a pejorative term; an insult or a slur. The Germans, not even Hitler nor any other top party officials ever called themselves “Nazis”! They called themselves “National Socialists” and nothing else. Those who can read German and have studied any of the original documents and speeches know this already, but most don’t.

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Jewish journalist Konrad Heiden

“The term “Nazi” (along with “Nazism”) is a political epithet invented by Konrad Heiden (7 August 1901 – 18 June 1966) during the 1920s as a means of denigrating the NSDAP and National Socialism. Heiden was a journalist and member of the Social Democratic Party. The term is a variant of the nickname that was used in reference to members of the SDP at the time “Sozi” (short for Sozialisten). “Nazi” was a political pun, based upon the Austro-Bavarian slang word for “simpleton” or “country bumpkin”, and derived from the fairly common name Ignatz. It would be like saying “nutsy”. So, if for no other reason, one should easily understand why the term was regarded as derogatory by the National Socialists and why they would never use it to describe themselves. One should also see why it would be used and popularized by Marxist-Bolshevik agitators and understand how it was seized upon by various other political opponents and subversive types, both within Germany and abroad, including the international media and political leaders of the western powers.” (Metapedia)

It should immediately become apparent that, if there is no such thing as a “Nazi”, except in the propaganda which was invented and spewed by this man, then it follows logically, that there is also NO such thing as a “Neo-Nazi” either. Those who would describe themselves as such are as ignorant as those who say they hate “Nazis” and they are equally decieved. Indeed, I highly suspect that some of those who promote “Neo-Nazism” are really agents whose job it is to keep the spectre of evil “Nazis” alive, and to effect the demonization of all those who would dare question the whole history about Hitler, the NS and WWII that we have all been sold.

What we must also know about Mr. Heiden, however, is that he was not just any other political opponent in the days of the Weimar Republic. He, himself was a Jew, and his father was a trade unionist, and that the trade unions were teaming with subversive, violent, Marxist-Bolsheviks. And NO, that is not “racist” statement, nor is intended to promote hatred. Merely to sate the facts. If you want to make such childish accusations then please start with attacking Wikipedia.

Wikipedia states that:
  • “Konrad Heiden (7 August 1901 – 18 June 1966) was an influential Jewish journalist and historian of the Weimar Republic and Nazi eras, most noted for the first influential biographies of German dictator Adolf Hitler. Often, he wrote under the pseudonym “Klaus Bredow.”

    Heiden was born in Munich, Germany, on 7 August 1901, and graduated from the University of Munich in 1923. His father was a union organizer, while his mother had a Jewish background. At the university, he organized a republican and democratic student body and became a member of the Social Democratic Party.

    Heiden was one of the first critical observers of the rise of National Socialism in Germany after he attended a party’s meeting in 1920. He worked for the Frankfurter Zeitung and the Vossischen Zeitung, but became a freelancer in 1932. A year later, he went into exile; first to Saarland, then to Switzerland, then to France, and finally to the United States.

    Heiden’s book, “The New Inquisition”, published jointly by Modern Age Books, Inc. and Alliance Book Corporation, in New York in 1939, with a translation from German by Heinz Norden, includes a series of personal, but necessarily anonymous accounts by German Jews of violent persecution under the Nazi regime accelerating from the time of the fall of 1938 and an eerie and accurate prediction of the Final Solution planned by the Nazi regime:

    To drive 600,000 people by robbery into hunger, by hunger into desperation, by desperation into wild outbreaks, and by such outbreaks into the waiting knife — such is the cooly calculated plan. Mass murder is the goal, a massacre such as history has not seen — certainly not since Tamerlane and Mithridates. We can only venture guesses as to the technical forms these mass executions are to take. In his book Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler suggested that the people to be killed be kept “under poisonous gas”; however, he speaks of a mere twelve to fifteen thousand. Doubtless the destructive instinct in the ruling class of the regime has grown in the meantime…”
There are a number of things there that should immediately send up “RED flags”! But let’s just look at the most blatant distortion of the fact. As I recently demonstrated with an article from the largest German-Jewish organization in 1933 (at the time when Hitler came to power and when Heiden set about telling his lies) defended Germany, and said to the world that they were doing fine, and they appealed for end to the atrocity propaganda. By the way, the Jewish population was less than 600,000 as Heiden had said.

Now let’s look Adolf Hitler actually did say, and in what context he said it He was discussing World War I, in which he himself had courageously fought, and had been decorated numerous times for his bravery :
  • “The fact that the German people carried on the War proved that the Marxist folly had not yet been able to penetrate deeply. But as the War was prolonged German soldiers and workers gradually fell back into the hands of the Marxist leaders, and the number of those who thus relapsed became lost to their country. At the beginning of the War, or even during the War, if twelve or fifteen thousand of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison-gas, just as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from every social stratum and from every trade and calling had to face it in the field, then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: If twelve thousand of these malefactors had been eliminated in proper time probably the lives of a million decent men,who would be of value to Germany in the future, might have been saved. But it was in accordance with bourgeois ‘statesmanship’ to hand over, without the twitch of an eyelid, millions of human beings to be slaughtered on the battlefields, while they looked upon ten or twelve thousand public traitors, profiteers, usurers and swindlers, as the dearest and most sacred national treasure and proclaimed their persons to be inviolable. Indeed it would be hard to say what is the most outstanding feature of these bourgeois circles: mental debility, moral weakness and cowardice, or a mere down-at-heel mentality. It is a class that is certainly doomed to go under but, unhappily, it drags down the whole nation with it into the abyss.” (Mein Kampf, James Murphy Translation, 1939, Page 518)
Do we see the difference? And do we see the deception at work? Do we see the intention to mislead the world at large?

Regarding the camps, Heiden gives no mention to the fact those people being interned in labour camps were subversives. Nor to the fact that these people could be, and were often released back to their communities. I will have more on that, however, in a future post. Also ignored is the fact that such camps were far more common and horrific in the Soviet Union, with little or no hope of getting out. And of course, such camps had been invented and used very cruelly by the Brits, and also the American hypocrites too.

Regarding the ‘Frankfurter Zeitung’, “during the period of the Weimar Republic, the paper was treated with hostility by nationalist circles because it had pronounced itself in favour of the Treaty of Versailles in 1918. At that time it no longer stood in opposition to the government and supported Gustav Stresemann’s policy of reconciliation.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurter_Zeitung

As to the ‘Vossische Zeitung’, it was based in Berlin which was a bastion of decadence in the Weimar period. It catered to the liberal-Bourgeois crowd and was very “international” in it’s views. “Until the second year of the Third Reich’s reign over Germany, the publication was generally regarded as Germany’s national newspaper of record, just as The Times and Le Temps were to Great Britain and France, respectively. “
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vossische_Zeitung

Now, you may want to dismiss me as being a “biased German”, and I am sure that some will reflexively shriek that I am an “anti-Semite” (which I am not) for daring to bring up this man’s background, and questioning his character and motives, but any objective observer who has done his or her own research, and who is at all familiar with the realities of the Weimar Republic, and with the true, publicly stated objectives of the National Socialists should immediately see that there was a huge conflict of interest there and bias on Heidens part. And that bias and his special interests would not only cause him to engage in childish name calling and insults such as “Nazi!”, but far more serious and injurious behaviours, such as LYING HIS ASS OFF off to foment another World War, that would eventually cost nearly 60,000,000 million lives, incalculable misery world wide, and a bogus legacy that still haunts us all today.

No, Mr. Heiden was certainly NOT an objective “journalist”, he was a “propagandist” and an “opportunist”! For if he was really concerned with “human rights” then where and when did he criticize the bloody red Bolsheviks and the brutal genocide of tens of millions of Christian Russians and the starvation of the 7 million Ukrainians? Much less the plight of the starving, unemployed, destitute and desperate Germans who were being held as slaves in their own country by the dictates of the Versailles Treaty and the dealings of self-described “Jewish” bankers and financial barons of Wall Street, London and Paris, while at the same time, being primed for Bolshevism by the Comintern and the trade unions. The bloody Russian Revolution was brought about by those very same Ueber-Kapitalist scoundrels, who also fomented World War I. Hitler had been openly discussing these things and fighting then from the beginning! Do you think just maybe they may have had a little something against him and the National Socialists, hmmm?

All things being equal, Heiden should NEVER have been given much (if any) credibility for his claims, as he and his interests (ie the status quo) were under the threat by the NSDAP. It was entirely in his interest, and that of his father, his family, his associates, etc to smear the National Socialists, both at home and abroad, to preserve their own interests, at the expense of everyone else. Not only that, but also with a major interest in perpetuating his lies after the war too, in order to continually justify it.

One would have to be very naive to not know that he found a waiting and welcome soapbox in America, partly because of who controls the media there, but more importantly, because America, after World War I and especially during the Great Depression had fallen totally into the hands of the International Bankster Gangsters who happen to call themselves “Jews” (…and are not). The very same bunch of crooks who gave you the Federal Reserve and which rules you today, as well as Germany, and most other countries. The National Socialists had a rescue plan for their people and their economy, which threatened their hegemony and the long-term global plans, ie the NWO agenda. Are we getting it yet?

Heiden was not alone in his efforts either. As soon as Hitler came to power, many of the most influential Jews bailed out and headed straight to America, to literally “raise hell”. That, of course, takes us back to what I had stated in my earlier post “World War II started in 1933!” (which detailed the world wide Jewish initiated boycotts). And for the Germans, that war has never ended. Nor will it, until people really begin to grasp the level of deception that has gone on, and is still being used to manipulate the world today.

http://justice4germans.com/2013/04/16/e ... -benefits/

Whenever we hear the term Nazi or Neo-Nazi being thrown around by our enemies (mostly Jews, non-whites, and self-hating whites) we need to realize that these are just unsubstantiated epithets that have no real meaning and are only designed to denigrate us and to stifle our freedom of speech. We should not let the phrase Nazi or Neo-Nazi deter us in our work in any way, instead let those insults roll off of our coats like raindrops during a light storm. Thank you for posting this. A lot of people refer to NS Germany as Nazi Germany, even if they don't mean to denigrate Germans. The term Nazi has been used so often that people think the NSDAP was actually called the Nazi party. Sad.

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:57 am
by Supremely White
Wait a minute, I wonder what the leader of The New Order has to say about this, considering that it is what was originally called The American Nazi Party, founded by Commander Rockwell. So there’s a bit of dissonance about this.
I’m okay with the word myself and I love National Socialism, but that’s just me…what I’m not okay with is the way the term “Eurotrash” gets thrown around, mostly by other whites…yeah I deliberately put the w in lowercase for those people who do this. “White trash” doesn’t help us either, in fact that offends me more than if some congoid calls us “cracka”.

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:30 pm
by RassenKrieg
"Nazi" is a slang term used towards us, that comes from a Jewish origin in the same sense way "racist" was a slang word is used against us. I've always used "National Socialist" in reference towards my political views; and have considered myself a "racialist" or "race realist."

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:02 pm
by Jim Mathias
Supremely White wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:57 am
Wait a minute, I wonder what the leader of The New Order has to say about this, considering that it is what was originally called The American Nazi Party, founded by Commander Rockwell. So there’s a bit of dissonance about this.
I’m okay with the word myself and I love National Socialism, but that’s just me…what I’m not okay with is the way the term “Eurotrash” gets thrown around, mostly by other whites…yeah I deliberately put the w in lowercase for those people who do this. “White trash” doesn’t help us either, in fact that offends me more than if some congoid calls us “cracka”.
We cannot control the actions of Whites who are too easily persuaded by our Jewish enemies to turn against our race. What we can do is form or be a part of local pro-White, preferably Cosmotheist, communities and shun these sick turncoats. In a way, these traitors are doing us a favor and "outing" themselves as those with whom we do not want to count among us when we talk up our community.

Talking to others about our White community is a small thing any of us can do, and opens the door to bringing up other parts of the program of the National Alliance when someone responds positively.

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:44 pm
by Will Williams
RassenKrieg wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:30 pm
"Nazi" is a slang term used towards us, that comes from a Jewish origin in the same sense way "racist" was a slang word is used against us. I've always used "National Socialist" in reference towards my political views; and have considered myself a "racialist" or "race realist."
Thanks for resurrecting this important, informative topic, SW. I believe Commander Rockwell initially used the name American Nazi Party for its attention-getting shock value. However, the ANP did transition into the National Socialist White People's Party under Rockwell, and later into New Order. I defer to Martin Kerr for details of American NS history. See his series: https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/09/th ... 1970-1985/

Though Dr. Pierce was affiliated with Rockwell during the ANP days, I cringe when I hear him use the term Nazi in his talks. He addressed the terms Nazi and neo-Nazi and how members could deal with them in the Alliance's Membership Handbook.

I'm with you, RK, in using the term National Socialist rather than the pejorative "Nazi." I don't mind the word racist, and will own it without being defensive or denying it -- "Of course I am a racist, what are you?" -- along with gentler terms like race-thinker and race realist. Since you have the COTC logo in your avatar you will appreciate that its founder, Ben Klassen, used the term racial loyalist, that I like also since that describes quite well what we are.

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:04 pm
by RassenKrieg
Will Williams wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:44 pm
RassenKrieg wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:30 pm
"Nazi" is a slang term used towards us, that comes from a Jewish origin in the same sense way "racist" was a slang word is used against us. I've always used "National Socialist" in reference towards my political views; and have considered myself a "racialist" or "race realist."
Thanks for resurrecting this important, informative topic, SW. I believe Commander Rockwell initially used the name American Nazi Party for its attention-getting shock value. However, the ANP did transition into the National Socialist White People's Party under Rockwell, and later into New Order. I defer to Martin Kerr for details of American NS history. See his series: https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/09/th ... 1970-1985/

Though Dr. Pierce was affiliated with Rockwell during the ANP days, I cringe when I hear him use the term Nazi in his talks. He addressed the terms Nazi and neo-Nazi and how members could deal with them in the Alliance's Membership Handbook.

I'm with you, RK, in using the term National Socialist rather than the pejorative "Nazi." I don't mind the word racist, and will own it without being defensive or denying it -- "Of course I am a racist, what are you?" -- along with gentler terms like race-thinker and race realist. Since you have the COTC logo in your avatar you will appreciate that its founder, Ben Klassen, used the term racial loyalist, that I like also since that describes quite well what we are.
If I remember right, Rockwell used the swastika and the term "Nazi" for shock value, as well with getting rid of any fence sitters. If one wasn't okay with being called a "nazi" or marching next to a Swastika flag, than there wasn't much use for one in the American Nazi Party. I think Rockwell played a very important role in resurrecting National Socialist and racial thinking in the post-WW2 America without a doubt, and for that I have much respect for him.

I do like the term Racial Loyalist, and have applied to to myself in the past. Ben Klassen also used racial slurs frequently, because "that is what they are" and I mean, while I am inclined to agree with the sentiment sometimes for optics purposes it is not always best to use racial slurs in certain situations.

Re: "Nazi"

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:26 am
by Supremely White
Can someone explain why so many often use the word Fascism interchangeably with National Socialism? I know the public schools have taught us in ways that were anti white, but I do recall the word Fascism only being used to describe Mussolini’s Italy. Perhaps others got a different education, or maybe forgot?
I want to know how to set these fools straight if I can, on the differences.