The N-word.

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The N-word.

Post by David York » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:48 pm

I was recently thinking about how there are no really good racial epithets for white people. The best the non-whites seemed to come with is Honky, Cracker, Redneck, or White trash. None of these terms invoked any anger in me and i thought they were lame attempts to get back at us for using the the six letter N word that blacks go into a rage over if you call them it. But there is a word that I have overlooked that is probably just as damaging psychologically to white people as the six letter N-word is to blacks. It also happens to be an N-word, but this word is four letters and is Nazi.

The term Nazi should be viewed as a racial epithet against White people, particularly Germans. Calling someone a Nazi is like calling a black person a N***er. The term Nazi is supposed to invoke in whites a feeling of lack of pride, lack of morality and barbarian mentality. This is all based on the World War 2 lies about how evil the Nazis were. I think if we are going to allow the blacks and Jews to bully us into not calling them N***ers or K**es, then by the same token they should stop calling white people Nazis. I don't care what a person's politics are, the term Nazi is designed to discredit anyone no matter what their true beliefs are. It's a derogatory term used to denigrate white people, and make them feel ashamed about who they are.

I think we should demand that the term Nazi be categorized as a racial epithet against white people, and any use of it by non-whites in reference to whites, no matter what the white person's politics are, should be discouraged just the same way the n-word for blacks has been discouraged. The same goes for the term Neo-Nazi and Fascist.

If white people are to have equal rights then we should not be subject to these name calling epithets. I am not a fan of the Mantra strategy such as Racist is a code word for anti-white, but I think Nazi is also a code word for anti-white, and especially a code word for anti-German. All Germans get hassled by these Nazi accusations. I think we should protest the use of the word Nazi or neo-nazi in categorizing whites who may be politically incorrect. Nazi represents National Socialist Germany in the 1930's and 1940's, and the term Fascist represents Mussolini's government in early 20th century. Any use of these terms, Nazi, or Fascists to describe white people today are completely out of context and is a racial slur in my opinion, which I find offensive.

The Jewish media is quite liberal with the use of the term Nazi to ostracize white people who they consider politically incorrect. This is most evident in the recent SPLC article about Will Williams,"Triumph of the Will: Will Williams and the National Alliance." The word Nazi was used 13 times in the article, and twice in the comments. Will Williams, Kevin Strom and the National Alliance are not Nazis. Nazis were National Socialists in Germany during WW2 so it is uncalled for to call anyone today a Nazi, unless they proclaim that they are neo-Nazi's.

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Re: The N-word.

Post by A White Nationalist » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:41 pm

WP: "If white people are to have equal rights..."

I understand what Pierce was saying here, but as for myself I am not seeking (or fighting) to have "equal rights" with non-whites. I am fighting for non-whites to have ZERO rights. I would be hypocritical if I said otherwise.

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Re: The N-word.

Post by Will Williams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:02 pm

DanielOlj79 wrote:...If white people are to have equal rights...
AWN is right that we do not want equal rights with non-Whites. No-Whites will not have the rights of White citizens in our world as we envision it, except as guests who follow our laws for guests from other nations.
[T]he recent SPLC article about Will Williams,"Triumph of the Will: Will Williams and the National Alliance." The word Nazi was used 13 times in the article, and twice in the comments. Will Williams, Kevin Strom and the National Alliance are not Nazis. Nazis were National Socialists in Germany during WW2 so it is uncalled for to call anyone today a Nazi, unless they proclaim that they are neo-Nazi's.
Wow! 13 times, eh? I was born after the National-Socialists were vanquished by the Democrat-Bolshevik coalition so can't hardly be a "Nazi." We address the question of the use of the terms Nazi and neo-Nazi on pages 120-122 of our Alliance Handbook.

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Re: The N-word.

Post by David York » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:35 pm

A White Nationalist wrote:WP: "If white people are to have equal rights..."

I understand what Pierce was saying here, but as for myself I am not seeking (or fighting) to have "equal rights" with non-whites. I am fighting for non-whites to have ZERO rights. I would be hypocritical if I said otherwise.

The above sentence which you highlighted in blue was not a quotation from William Pierce. It is just something I said in my post above. I wasn't quoting anybody so I'm not sure why you are attributing that to William Pierce. You are correct though we shouldn't be fighting for equal rights with non-whites, and I don't think that is what Pierce or the NA was ever about. I think I was saying that to point out the hypocritical way that Jews and Blacks demand to be treated a certain way by White people while they have no qualms with treating us the very same way they tell us not to treat them.

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Re: The N-word.

Post by David York » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:42 pm

Will Williams wrote:
DanielOlj79 wrote:...If white people are to have equal rights...
AWN is right that we do not want equal rights with non-Whites. No-Whites will not have the rights of White citizens in our world as we envision it, except as guests who follow our laws for guests from other nations.
[T]he recent SPLC article about Will Williams,"Triumph of the Will: Will Williams and the National Alliance." The word Nazi was used 13 times in the article, and twice in the comments. Will Williams, Kevin Strom and the National Alliance are not Nazis. Nazis were National Socialists in Germany during WW2 so it is uncalled for to call anyone today a Nazi, unless they proclaim that they are neo-Nazi's.
Wow! 13 times, eh? I was born after the National-Socialists were vanquished by the Democrat-Bolshevik coalition so can't hardly be a "Nazi." We address the question of the use of the terms Nazi and neo-Nazi on pages 120-122 of our Alliance Handbook.
Yes it was 13 times no less. I went back to that article and counted it myself. Also I just want to correct myself: the term Nazi is still an Epithet even if you are referring to NS Germany, since that term was created by a Jews during the 1930's to denigrate the National Socialists of Germany. I read this in the other thread here about the term "Nazi". So any way it is used it is a slur against NS Germany, and it is totally out of context to call any contemporary white person a Nazi if they aren't associated with National Socialism in any way, but even if they were associated with a new age National Socialist party it still is a denigrating term.

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Re: The N-word.

Post by Will Williams » Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:14 pm

Let's talk some more about the nigger. The Jewish newspaper The New York Times discussed this supposedly taboo word (for Whites, at least) at length here:


How the N-Word Became Unsayable

April 30, 2021
By John McWhorter

Dr. McWhorter is a linguist who has written extensively about both race and language. He is the author, most recently, of “Nine Nasty Words: English in the Gutter,” from which this guest essay is adapted.

This article contains obscenities and racial slurs, fully spelled out. Ezekiel Kweku, the Opinion politics editor, and Kathleen Kingsbury, the Opinion editor, wrote about how and why we came to the decision to publish these words in Friday’s edition of the Opinion Today newsletter.


In 1934, Allen Walker Read, an etymologist and lexicographer, laid out the history of the word that, then, had “the deepest stigma of any in the language.” In the entire article, in line with the strength of the taboo he was referring to, he never actually wrote the word itself. The obscenity to which he referred, “fuck,” though not used in polite company (or, typically, in this newspaper), is no longer verboten. These days, there are two other words that an American writer would treat as Mr. Read did. One is “cunt,” and the other is “nigger.” The latter, though, has become more than a slur. It has become taboo.

Just writing the word here, I sense myself as pushing the envelope, even though I am Black — and feel a need to state that for the sake of clarity and concision, I will be writing the word freely, rather than “the N-word.” I will not use the word gratuitously, but that will nevertheless leave a great many times I do spell it out, love it though I shall not.

“Nigger” began as a neutral descriptor, although it was quickly freighted with the casual contempt that Europeans had for African and, later, African-descended people. Its evolution from slur to unspeakable obscenity was part of a gradual prohibition on avowed racism and the slurring of groups. It is also part of a larger cultural shift: Time was that it was body parts and what they do that Americans were taught not to mention by name — do you actually do much resting in a restroom?

That kind of concern has been transferred from the sexual and scatological to the sociological, and changes in the use of the word “nigger” tell part of that story. What a society considers profane reveals what it believes to be sacrosanct: The emerging taboo on slurs reveals the value our culture places — if not consistently — on respect for subgroups of people. (I should also note that I am concerned here with “nigger” as a slur rather than its adoption, as “nigga,” as a term of affection by Black people, like “buddy.”)

For all of its potency, in terms of etymology, “nigger” is actually on the dull side, like “damn” and “hell.” It just goes back to Latin’s word for “black,” “niger,” which not surprisingly could refer to Africans, although Latin actually preferred other words like “aethiops” — a singular, not plural, word — which was borrowed from Greek, in which it meant (surprise again) “burn face.”

English got the word more directly from Spaniards’ rendition of “niger,” “negro,” which they applied to Africans amid their “explorations.” “Nigger” seems more like Latin’s “niger” than Spanish’s “negro,” but that’s an accident; few English sailors and tradesmen were spending much time reading their Cicero. “Nigger” is how an Englishman less concerned than we often are today with making a stab at foreign words would say “negro.”

For Mandarin’s “feng shui,” we today say “fung shway,” as the Chinese do, but if the term had caught on in the 1500s or even the early 1900s, we would be saying something more like “funk shoe-y,” just as we call something “chop suey” that is actually pronounced in Cantonese “tsopp suh-ew.” In the same way, “negro” to “nigger” is as “fellow” is to “feller” or “Old Yellow” is to “Old Yeller”; “nigger” feels more natural in an Anglophone mouth than “negro.”

“Nigger” first appeared in English writings in the 1500s. As it happens, the first reference involved “aethiops,” as it had come to refer to Ethiopia, or at least that term as applied sloppily to Africa. We heard of “The Nigers of Aethiop” in 1577, and that spelling was but one of many from then on. With spelling as yet unconventionalized, there were “neger,” “nigur,” “niger,” “nigor” and “nigre” — take your pick.

It was, as late as the 1700s, sometimes presented as a novelty item. The Scottish poet Robert Burns dutifully taught, referring to “niger,” that it rhymes with “vigour, rigour, tiger.” Note, we might, that last word. If “tiger” rhymes with “vigor” and “rigor,” that means that “tiger” could once be pronounced “tigger,” which then sheds light on the rhyme:

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe
Catch a tigger by the toe
If he hollers, let him go
Eeeny, meeny, miny, moe.

“Tigger,” then, was a polite substitute for the original “nigger.” After all, do we really imagine a tiger hollering in protest? So, for one, we gain insight into why the Winnie-the-Pooh character is called “Tigger” and the books are so vague on why it’s pronounced that way. That was an available alternate pronunciation to A.A. Milne. But more to the point, the original version of the “Eeny, meeny” doggerel is a window into how brutally casual the usage of “nigger” once was, happily trilled even by children at play. For eons, it was ordinary white people’s equivalent of today’s “African-American.”

Someone wrote in passing in 1656 that woolly hair is “very short as Nigers have,” with the term meant as a bland clinical reference. “Jethro, his Niger, was then taken,” someone breezily wrote in a diary 20 years later. And this sort of thing went on through the 1700s and 1800s. Just as “cunt” was a casual anatomical term in medieval textbooks, “nigger,” however spelled, was simply the way one said “Black person,” with the pitiless dismissiveness of the kind we moderns use in discussing hamsters, unquestioned by anyone. After a while, the current spelling settled in, which makes the contrast with today especially stark.

about the funny little nigger girl, and about the games and songs and how they played birds and hopped around and cried, “Twit, twit,” and the game of the butterflies visiting the flowers.

Annals of popular dancing shortly after this era gaily chronicled dances such as the bunny hug, turkey trot and grizzly bear but discreetly left out that a girl like the one in “Vandover” was equally fond of one called the nigger wiggle, named as if Black people were just one more kind of amusing animal. (This dance entailed, for the record, a couple putting their hips together and holding each other’s rear ends.)

Of course, the word was also used in pure contempt. Not long after “Vandover,” William Jennings Bryan, the iconic populist orator, as secretary of state, remarked about Haitians, “Dear me, think of it, niggers speaking French.” Meanwhile, the Marine in charge of Haiti on the behalf of our great nation at the time, L.W.T. Waller, made sure all knew that whatever their linguistic aptitudes, the Haitians were “real nigs beneath the surface.”

There was a transitional period between the breeziness of “real nigs beneath the surface” and the word becoming unsayable. In the 20th century, with Black figures of authority insisting that Black Americans be treated with dignity, especially after serving in World War I, “nigger” began a move from neutral to impolite. Most Black thinkers favored “colored” or “Negro.” But “nigger” was not yet profane.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/30/opin ... yable.html

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Re: The N-word.

Post by C.E. Whiteoak » Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:52 pm

Well if they weren't niggers they wouldn't make such a big deal out of being called niggers, now would they? :lol: :lol:

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Post by Jim Mathias » Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:41 am

C.E. Whiteoak wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:52 pm
Well if they weren't niggers they wouldn't make such a big deal out of being called niggers, now would they? :lol: :lol:
It hits the spot, just like "Jew" does.
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Post by Volker Zorn » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:17 pm

Just sayin'.

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