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Scott
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My Introduction

Post by Scott » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:48 am

I joined this forum to learn more about National Socialism.

Actually, that was hard to say. It's not something that I can talk about openly. No one I know understands anything about National Socialism, or why I would want to know more about it, so I don't have people in my life I can discuss this with.

I have read some of the original book volumes, like The Myth of the 20th Century and Mein Kampf, translated into English. I have also read Savitri Devi, The Lighting and the Sun. This lead me to the work of Dr. William Pierce. I read The Turner Diaries and watched some of his videos, then his biography, The Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds. Right now I am reading Siege.

I think of Dr. Pierce as the direct line of National Socialism from the original party. What's attracted me to this forum is the chance to talk with people who who knew and met him and had the closest relationship to his thinking. Thank you for this opportunity.
"What remains to be done by those who live now? On a worldwide scale, or even national, absolutely nothing. It is too late. The “twenty-fifth hour” has sounded for too long a time."
-- Savatri Devi

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Re: My Introduction

Post by Thomas S NJ » Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:24 am

Scott wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:48 am
I think of Dr. Pierce as the direct line of National Socialism from the original party. What's attracted me to this forum is the chance to talk with people who who knew and met him and had the closest relationship to his thinking. Thank you for this opportunity.
Welcome, Scott! This bit here is precisely what got my attention as well, initially - though the message eventually overtook the man in importance for me.

I do think the man is important, though; having a direct line such as that adds legitimacy and more importantly, adherence to the world-conception. It is important to remember that every splinter group has one - or both - of two things in common: they had some point on which they differed from the original ideals (such as being jew-friendly); or the ego of the splinter group's leader or founder was too great to allow him to follow with the father group, what Dr. Pierce called, "phone-booth Fuhrers". In either case, the message gets diluted. Only the National Alliance can claim a true lineage of thought all the way back to the original German Workers' Party. There was a gap in leadership, to be sure, between Admiral Doenitz's surrender and Commander Rockwell's founding to the American Nazi Party. While Matt Kuehl was the legitimate successor to Rockwell to be sure, I think he eventually took his part of the lineage off-message with the deification of Hitler. Around that time, Dr. Pierce's National Youth Alliance kept the true spirit of National-Socialism with his deification (if you will) of reality; no man, no religion, nor any ideal could ever be complete without the Truth.

There are numerous groups, now, and I'm not sure where each of them falls out in the grand scheme of things. Too many are focused on being "movements" or, more stupidly, political parties in an era in which even the basic core of the racialist message is unspeakable and unthinkable by the vast majority of those very Whites they seek to preserve. Near as I can tell, only the National Alliance has seen the reality of the situation for what it is and chosen a strategy accordingly. This isn't 1930's Germany and we can't accomplish anything with that model; what matters now is education and activism. A revolution comes in stages and it is vital to know what stage you're in.
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Re: My Introduction

Post by Robert Burns » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:48 pm

Welcome, Scott!

I agree with what you and Thomas say. NA is the direct spiritual descendant of the NSDAP. There are many groups that try to emulate the NSDAP in appearance, but NA is the only group that really took the fundamental philosophy behind NS and ran with it in the right direction. We aren't explicitly National Socialist and we certainly aren't a political party, but Cosmotheism is basically just the fundamental philosophy of National Socialism distilled into a new religion.

As such, most of us are probably more inclined to want to answer questions about Cosmotheism than about National Socialism. We don't see questions of political policy as particularly relevant to the current situation, seeing as we can't really implement such policies at this time. What we can do is build our growing Cosmotheist community.

In any case, if you have any questions about either I'm sure we can have a meaningful conversation.

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Re: My Introduction

Post by Scott Free » Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:35 pm

Welcome Scott!
I'm glad you have found a place to speak with like minded folk. Have a great day.
-Scott

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Re: My Introduction

Post by Jim Mathias » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:51 am

Welcome Scott. The posts above mine are of good quality, I won't repeat what was said. I do have a book recommendation for you once you're done (hopefully soon) with Siege: https://cosmotheistchurch.org/product/c ... am-pierce/ :
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“Deep inside all of us, in our race-soul, there is a source of divine wisdom, of ages-old wisdom, of wisdom as old as the Universe. That is the wisdom, the truth, of Cosmotheism. It is a truth of which most of us have been largely unconscious all our lives, but which now we have the opportunity to understand clearly and precisely.”
Thus William Pierce bids men and women of European race to understand ourselves and our purpose.

Dr. William Luther Pierce’s Cosmotheism is not a revealed religion, but is instead what he called a natural religion: It rejects all of the claimed supernatural “revelations” which find their way onto shining golden plates or ancient scrolls, instead having its basis in the realities of Nature that our eyes — and the investigations of science — have confirmed. In the drama of the evolution of life from non-living matter, and of higher and more conscious beings from lower forms of life, William Pierce sees a path of purpose and destiny for us.

This new, definitive book provides the reader with the only guide to Cosmotheism published by the Cosmotheist Church itself. In effect, it is the Cosmotheist bible. It contains all of William Pierce’s important Cosmotheist works, including the Cosmotheist Trilogy, his essays from internal National Alliance and Cosmotheist Community publications, and his lectures at the Community’s first gatherings in Arlington, Virginia in the 1970s. It also contains important works on the new religion by Fred Streed and Kevin Alfred Strom.
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Re: My Introduction

Post by Scott » Sun May 01, 2022 7:13 am

Thank you for the comments and the links. As I've said elsewhere, I'm very interested in the idea suggested in another post by Mr. Koehl and then a comment from Mr. Strom, that preparation for revolution doesn't have to mean preparation for violence. I think Dr. Pierce and his writings on Cosmotheism are a good place to start.

Another thing that I'm interested in is the idea of the world after racial revolution and what it will look like. I have read the Turner Diaries, and this gives me some idea, but I'd like to think more about this and don't really know where to start. Is there anything that you can direct me to that would help me with this question?
"What remains to be done by those who live now? On a worldwide scale, or even national, absolutely nothing. It is too late. The “twenty-fifth hour” has sounded for too long a time."
-- Savatri Devi

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Re: My Introduction

Post by Robert Burns » Sun May 01, 2022 5:54 pm

Scott wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 7:13 am
Another thing that I'm interested in is the idea of the world after racial revolution and what it will look like. I have read the Turner Diaries, and this gives me some idea, but I'd like to think more about this and don't really know where to start. Is there anything that you can direct me to that would help me with this question?


I agree with SteamPowered. Trying to imagine what the world might look like in the distant future in any great detail is not really a useful exercise practically speaking. There are too many unknowns for us to come up with an accurate picture even of the relatively near future, let alone what things will be like after all the hard work of ensuring our survival is done. There are a few key things we can be sure about, and those are the things we should focus on.

This is why I shared my recent post introducing the idea of permaculture. Learning about the various aspects of farming is not only a necessary and useful thing for our people to do, but it is something that anyone can start working on today, even if it's as simple as watching some YouTube videos on how to grow some herbs on the windowsill of your apartment and putting that into action. There are a lot of things I wouldn't hazard to guess about what the future holds, but one thing I'm certain of is that if we don't learn how to produce our own food effectively, we won't even have a future to dream about.

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Re: My Introduction

Post by White Man 1 » Mon May 02, 2022 9:33 am

Our high-flying future visions can be found on the natall.com site under the heading "What Is The National Alliance". We focus on the here and now, though. We have wood to cut, flyers to distribute, libraries to build, and roads to cut.

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Re: My Introduction

Post by Scott » Tue May 03, 2022 6:20 am

I want to thank everyone for answering my questions. I think the responses I got complement each other. If your goal is to survive an inevitable revolution and establish a new order, preparation for this survival is really important. Honestly, I hadn't thought of it that way before. As some of you have noticed, reading people like James Mason kind of messes up your ideas about what's going on and what needs to be done. I think part of the wisdom of Dr. Pierce was his clear idea of what was needed to be done to prepare. Sure, material survival is important. But knowing what to do when the fighting stops is also important. White Man 1's link to natall.com was great reading. I need to read it again, though. One thing that sticks in my mind is the contrast between the Marxist goal of happiness versus beauty, strength and intelligence as national goals.
"What remains to be done by those who live now? On a worldwide scale, or even national, absolutely nothing. It is too late. The “twenty-fifth hour” has sounded for too long a time."
-- Savatri Devi

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