Why No Films About German Heroism & Humanity in WW2?

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Why No Films About German Heroism & Humanity in WW2?

Post by Vavrinec » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:15 pm

I find it interesting that no motion picture company, whether in the States or abroad, hasn't depicted a film about German soldiers in their fight for Germany. During WW2. With WW2 reenacting & films becoming part of the mainstream pop culture, see many films about the Allies fighting & some about the Axis, mostly Japanese, but none about the German soldier. Why is that? Besides the films Das Boat & Stalingrad, no other pro or semi pro film has been made highlighting the German soldier's feats in combat or any attempt at all to show German soldiers in WW2 as anything but human. A few recent films & miniseries have alluded to this fact, the surrender scene of the Wermacht colonal in Band of Brothers & the SS private in Fury who after checking under the tank after the battle didn't turn in the last surviving member of the tank crew. Yet tons of films & movies depict just how deplorable the WW2 era Germans were.
Where are the articles of the severe fire bombings of German cities? All the historical & documentry channels chonicle the fierce fire bombings of Japan, but none about the campaigns in Germany. Where are the stories brought to the small & silver screen about the German Grunt fighting for his nation, his people, & most of all; his fellow grunt in the same trench as he? Did not the German soldier exhibit bravery & courage under fire noble enough to entertain audiences? Was not their plight for the Fatherland worthy of any mention at all? Or were only those who betrayed their country & people worthy of an honorable mention. Many Germans, as well as men from occupied nations who joined or were conscripted into the German Army, fought bravely & died on many battlefields in Europe. And let's not mince words here, soldiers don't die for God & Country, King or Queen & Country, nor do they die for National Socialism, Democracy, or Communism. Soldiers die for each other. Are not the sacrifices of the WW2 German soldier noble enough for a film or even a TV movie? This cannot say.


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Re: Why No Films About German Heroism & Humanity in WW2?

Post by Will Williams » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:23 pm

Das Boot is a fine WWII film from a German perspective. Below are a few Amazon reviews. Haven't see the uncut version, but it looks better than what Americans got.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A Masterpiece
Format: DVD
I don't think there are enough superlatives in the English language to adequately describe this film. It succeeds in every possible way. This is not only one of the best war movies ever, but among the very best films period. The story is based on a true story of a German Submarine and its crew during WWII. The plot is simple. A bunch of ordinary young guys are crammed into a little tin can and go out and do their duty while trying to avoid getting killed. This slice of life film gives a chillingly detailed look at the rigors of war in a U-boat.
We are treated to the stark reality of submarine warfare; the hours of boredom; the camaraderie and simultaneous aggravation that comes with living in such close quarters, the exultation of victory when a torpedo hits, the stark terror of the sound of a destroyer's propeller just above or the insane fear of the boat being crushed by the water pressure as you go too deep.
This film is unique in that it is done from the German perspective. Most films about WWII are from the Allied perspective since they were produced in Hollywood or England. What is striking about this film is how it depicts war as a human event rather than a nationalistic conflict. It makes us realize that for the foot soldier and sailor on the battle lines, no matter what side, war is the same. It is more a matter of survival than glory.
Director Wolfgang Peterson did a brilliant job on this film. The set and props were authentic in minute detail and the work in tight quarters was truly remarkable. You get a real sense of the cramped quarters and how nimble the men had to be scrambling from compartment to compartment. Peterson spares us none of the unpleasantness of submarine life. The stark reality of it is startling.
By far Peterson's greatest accomplishment is the spine tingling suspense. The effect is so terrifying you feel like you are part of the crew. His use of angles, lighting, actor's reactions and most especially sound makes this film far more frightening and suspenseful than anything the horror genre has ever produced. I viewed this on DVD (Director's Cut) and the sound was probably the best I've ever experienced. You hear water dripping behind you, bolts explode and go screaming diagonally across the room to clank on the other side, the sound of the destroyer's propeller escalates from a fly buzz to a roar as the ping from the sonar gets ever louder. You find every muscle in your body tensing as you hear them drop the depth charges.
The ending is superb. It is triumphant, poignant and ironic; unexpected and yet not surprising. It is neither what the viewer is apt to want nor expect, and yet it is not disappointing.
I can't think of any negative criticism I would give this film. It was nominated for six Academy Awards and won none. That speaks volumes about the dubious nature of the Academy. Even if you don't normally enjoy war movies, you should see this film. It is ultra excellent drama, entertainment and filmmaking. A perfect 10.

5.0 out of 5 stars One of the absolute best WWII movies ever made!!!
Format: DVD
I am updating this review to encourage fans of the movie to get the newly released "Original Uncut" version. This version is the one originally aired as a mini-series on German TV and is approximately 5 hours in length. It goes into much greater detail about the crewmembers and shows some critical dialogue and battle scenes that were left out of the theater version and the directtor's cut.

Get this DVD!! It is far superior to the VHS version. Watch the movie in German with subtitles to really get the flavor of the dialogue. The English dubbed version is, to me, sanitized.

Das Boot recreates a combat patrol of a German submarine operating out of France in 1941. The prologue explains that the war in the North Atlantic is turning against the Germans as the British have developed superior Anti submarine tactics. Nevertheless the Captain (brilliantly portrayed by Jurgen Prochnow) takes his baby-faced crew into harm's way in an effort to do his duty as a German Naval officer, even though his distaste for the High command is evident.

The movie was extremely well made. You really feel like you are inside this cramped 200' long piece of sewer pipe that was home to 50 sailors. The claustrophobia, boredom, lack of hygene, and loneliness all are effectively portrayed. Someone once wrote that being a soldier in wartime was 97% boredom punctuated by 3% of absolute terror. That axiom is evident throughout the film.

The DVD version has enhanced Dolby sound, which makes the depth charge attacks all the more realistic. In one sequence the depth charge attacks are so intense that it seems that the sound alone will destroy the U boat.

Some consider Das Boot an "anti-war" film. I am not sure that it really falls into that category. It certainly doesn't glorify war, nor does it really offer much commentary on the merits, or lack thereof, of the German war effort. The Officers onboard never really discuss politics, or what the war is about. Their attitude is, rather, that they are there to do a job and that's what they're going to do. Only one officer, a clean shaven die-hard Nazi expresses any real commitment, and he's made fun of by the others.

No, Das Boot is a film about war, and those who are called upon to fight it. It is intense, gripping and moving. You'll never spend $23 for a better DVD.


5.0 out of 5 stars A Tremendous Achievement!
Format: DVD
"Das Boot" has stood the test of time to become not only the greatest submarine movie ever made, but also one of the greatest war movies ever made.
At the outset, the viewer must understand that he/she is NOT watching an American movie. If you were, it would probably star George Clooney or Kevin Coster attempting to speak with a German accent, which would be a real tragedy in itself. It would also have a blatantly annoying soundtrack, lot of shots of the women back home worrying about their men, and loads of bad dialogue. "Das Boot" fortunately contains none of the above. What is does contain is a great story with top-notch production values, acting, and direction.
The story begins with the captain (expertly played by Jurgen Prochnow) and his crew celebrating the night before they will set out to sea in a German U-boat. These men, little more than boys, have no idea what they are about to experience. The captain does know, and you can see that realization on his face and in his character throughout the film. A young, idealistic correspondent obtains permission to travel with the crew and document their journey. The film really belongs to him as we see how he reacts as the realization gradually comes to him of exactly what he has stumbled into.
Director Petersen has done an outstanding job of showing us what it was like to serve on a WWII U-boat. You can almost get lost in the film, imagining the close quarters, the sounds, even the smells of being in a sub. Some viewers have commented that so much of the film is "boring." Again, audiences watching nothing but Hollywood films feel that an explosion has to occur every five minutes for the movie to be exciting. This movie is exciting, but the excitement builds from the tension that runs throughout the entire film. Sure, there's down time, but even at three and a half hours, there are no wasted shots. The ending??? Wow! See it for yourself!
All aspects of the DVD are also wonderful. I would have liked to have seen more of the making of the film, but what's there is very good. I recommend watching the film in the original German with English subtitles. Even if you're opposed to it, at least try it for the first 20 minutes. More people should see this film. It's worth your time.
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Re: Why No Films About German Heroism & Humanity in WW2?

Post by UncensoredDeutsch » Mon May 30, 2022 7:04 pm

Vavrinec,

I agree with what you said! You wrote this way back in 2016, and there has been a number of films created since then so I'll share what I know of below - maybe you've already seen them.

Even though there has been a number of films created in the last few years, I also wish there was way more pro-white films created to enjoy and watch instead of the constant anti-white films being made left and right. Someday, that'll happen! ;)

Here's the list:

Hellstorm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnenGW_21Mo
Have seen this - excellent film.

The Greatest Story Never Told - https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv (I've not seen this one as there's no captions - but I'll try again with another idea I just thought of. Anyways, I've heard others say that this is a very good one).

Europa the Last Battle - europathelastbattle.net

This film is the one I would highly recommend to share widely and get people to watch.

I would also recommend Parts 8 & 9 to watch first if they complain about the length of the film. Parts 8 & 9 SHOULD hook them in enough and whet their curiosity to be curious enough to go back to the beginning to watch the whole documentary. If Parts 8 & 9 isn't enough to hook them in, then they're not serious about the truth, IMHO.

Juri Lina films:
(Full) In the Shadow of Hermes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIuW-vNQsQI
Under the Sign of the Scorpion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqyR9D7TvVw

Both films have many similar scenes but also have some different things in there so well worth your time to view the films anyways.

On Telegram, using the web browser version, go to WW2TruthVideos Channel as there is tons of NS era videos that are pretty inspiring!

There's an up and coming WN filmmaker that I've been enjoying their content when they post over at Telegram, their channel is:
Media2Rise and their website is: https://media2rise.com

Levi's "Triumph of the Will" is pretty inspiring! I would suggest you buy those DVDs for your personal library and pass them as family heirlooms.

I think that's all I can think of off the top of my head at the moment.

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John, your YouTube link that you suggested is no longer active as the video was removed by YT. What was the name of the film that you were suggesting, maybe it can be found elsewhere? Thanks!

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Chairman Will, I agree that the DAS BOOT movie was excellent. Definitely a great recommend! I also loved The Hunt for Red October and the original Top Gun growing up myself. These days, I much prefer the old classic movies.

However, I'd have to say that many of the current movies are still dropping hints of truth here and there that I have seen and noticed. They seem to love doing truth dropping, especially in sci-fi films, Star Wars / Star Trek, and Marvel types of films.

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