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Re: David Irving - Watered down in his old age?

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:22 pm
by BBrookshire
Will Williams wrote:
Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:24 pm
BBrookshire wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:23 pm
In regards to the numerous videos of David Irving's lectures at hotels and such around the US, I notice that after 2010, he seemed to think there was evidence in the coded communications that show the "6 Million" number could possibly be true. Which is a stark contrast to his lectures in all the years prior. I realize they have beaten him down pretty hard, but the simple math of it all still stands.

Has anyone else noticed this or have any insight?
I met Mr. Irving a couple of times in the 1990s, and again with my wife at a hotel in Knoxville, TN, at one of his talks. I paid him $50 then for a pre-order for his book on Himmler (that I've yet to receive). :|

Though this article is five years old, my old friend Hadding Scott gives a lot of insight to your question. Hadding is a very honest man, so trust what he writes here:

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Will - that 1st page alone sums up how I was feeling after watching that Arlington video - he just seemed to want to placate those two. Thank you for posting that. Much appreciated!

Re: David Irving - Watered down in his old age?

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:34 am
by Will Williams
BBrookshire wrote:
Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:22 pm

Will - that 1st page alone sums up how I was feeling after watching that Arlington video - he just seemed to want to placate those two. Thank you for posting that. Much appreciated!

You're welcome, BB. Glad to help.

I've read several of Mr. Irving's books and consider him to be the foremost WWII historian, despite whatever character flaws he may have. He wrote Destruction of Dresden in 1963 when I was still in high school. What a life he has lived!

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We all "age out" eventually. He's 83 now; when Lana and I met him in 2012 he was 74 but still quite lucid -- a fascinating speaker who patiently answered all of my stupid questions. :P

See at least 30 titles of Irving's books here:https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/8 ... vid_Irving

Re: David Irving - Watered down in his old age?

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:32 pm
by BBrookshire
Awesome!!! I have now watched probably a dozen of his seminars ranging from the early 90's to that Arlington one in 2014. They have sparked a renewed interest in WW2 that I haven't had since I was young. The materials he has had access to are incredible.

He never claimed to be a hardline white nationalist type so for him to placate troublemaking jews at a seminar, doesn't bother me at all. What he has seen and had access to and the people he has spoken with are what's important. He genuinely seemed to want to tell the real truth, not just regurgitated university clap trap. I have purchased several of his books and plan to read them as soon as I finish WWWM.

He never pretended to be "on our team" but he always sought the truth, and isn't that what we seek as well? I can't fault a man for that.

Re: David Irving - Watered down in his old age?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:25 am
by PhuBai68
This is from a search years ago, if you do the search today that 1947 number will be, Yeah! You guessed it! 6,000,000 less.
I've heard that the six million number is the number of Jews that have to be murdered/killed/exterminated/whatever until they get their "kingdom of Judea" back.
I'll attach news clippings from 1905, 1914 and 1938 ALL claiming "6,000,000 Jews are about to die."



World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"]
World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world jewish population = 15,753,633
World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany
American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000
World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359
World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091
World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849 -- 15,192,089, "Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion"
World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000