A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

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A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by Jeff » Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:49 am

A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

A real dialogue on X/Twitter, Oct. 18, 2023:

Tweet: "you sound like a racist."

White guy: "I am a racist. Thanks."

The ubiquitous, Judeo-left scare words "racist" and "racism" only work if White people allow them to work. As soon as Whites decide to no longer allow those words to "cow" them, those words lose all their power.

Don't run from the meaningless scare words. Embrace them instead. When you do, their power ends.


(This post is original to WB, meaning "it was made by me to WB first"; I say that since Will once warned me about provenance of posts)


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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by Will Williams » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:54 pm

Jeff wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:49 am
A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

A real dialogue on X/Twitter, Oct. 18, 2023:

Tweet: "you sound like a racist."

White guy: "I am a racist. Thanks."

The ubiquitous, Judeo-left scare words "racist" and "racism" only work if White people allow them to work. As soon as Whites decide to no longer allow those words to "cow" them, those words lose all their power.

Don't run from the meaningless scare words. Embrace them instead. When you do, their power ends.


(This post is original to WB, meaning "it was made by me to WB first"; I say that since Will once warned me about provenance of posts)

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Welcome to WB, Jeff. I don't know what you're referring to about "provenance of posts." It should be clear what WB's Provenance section is.

Where else do you plan to post your interesting Twitter comment? I've never been on Twitter, now X, and do not plan to ever try to promote the National Alliance there. Promoting NA is what we do.
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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by Jeff » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:57 pm

Actually, I have been pleasantly surprised at the positive comments that I have gotten at X/Twitter. It's really all in the strategy.

For example: here's a good strategy: make a post here at WB. Then, post SOME of the post at X/Twitter, and link to the rest of your WB post via the URL.

Why? Because, depending on how you word the post, X could ban you, or censor your post. But, if worded properly, your post will be MILD for the first paragraph and then, back at WB via the URL, it'll get into the nitty gritty in the second paragraph. X CANNOT do anything about what your WB post says. See?

When dealing with the "milder citizens" there are ways to improve your game. (I have been banned 3 times from X/Twitter, until I employed that strategy). Hey, whatever it takes...

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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by Jeff » Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:50 pm

Allow me to give an example of what I was talking about, re: posting un-PC things at X/Twitter:

First, you make a whole (un-PC) post at WB. Like this (this one isn't racist, but we'll pretend that it is):

A Parallel Army? A Second Coup?

Picture it: Chile, 1972. The "elected" Marxist leader of Chile, Salvador Allende, is creating a secret army with young men who have been trained in the Soviet Union and Cuba. They have guns and military equipment stashed all over Chile: in warehouses, back rooms, basements. When the time is right, the secret army will rise up and permanently install Allende as the "leader of Chile for life" (i.e., the permanent Marxist leader, just like his buddy Fidel Castro in Cuba).

But Allende's plan didn't work. General Pinochet struck first. Allende died in the battle that followed. Pinochet returned Chile to normal (which was, according to the Left, a "crime"; how dare he return Chile to normal!).

Now, consider this today: Many people have noticed, and warned, that an unusual type of illegal immigrant has been flooding into America lately: male, young (ages 20-24 maybe), physically fit and all with the same general build, with no women or children with them. That's odd. None of them are married? Surely, some of them would decide to "bring the wife or Mom." But none have. It's almost like they're on a mission, and the wives/children would just slow them down.

Are these mysterious men part of a secret parallel army being built in America?? Is their purpose to "complete" or "extend" the Nov. 2020 coup (in which our real president, Donald Trump, was illegally removed from office. That was a "soft coup"/"bloodless coup"). Is the Judeo-left in America building a secret parallel army due to worries that the "regulars" in the U.S. military today will not "obey their leftist agenda at crunch time"??

Regardless, our "leaders" (yeah, I know, I know, "what leaders?") need to find out what is going on with these young men.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/s...18769402777787

Related:

https://twitter.com/FFT1776/status/1712955715130687894



Now, here's the small part that you post at X/Twitter (this text only):

"A Parallel Army? A Second Coup?

Picture it: Chile, 1972. The "elected" Marxist leader of Chile, Salvador Allende, is creating a secret army with young men who have been trained in the Soviet Union and Cuba. They have guns and military equipment stashed all over Chile..."


Then, you post the URL link under the text (the one at WB).

And that's it. That's all. Just a small paragraph, and the URL link to the rest of it at WB.

That's the nugget: You can say anything that you want to say, but X/Twitter CANNOT ban you, since the "racist" part of the article is NOT at X/Twitter. It's at WB only. In theory, you can post like that ALL OVER THE WEB and never be banned. In theory, anyway.


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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by White_Vengeance » Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:52 pm

Jeff wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:49 am
A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

A real dialogue on X/Twitter, Oct. 18, 2023:

Tweet: "you sound like a racist."

White guy: "I am a racist. Thanks."

The ubiquitous, Judeo-left scare words "racist" and "racism" only work if White people allow them to work. As soon as Whites decide to no longer allow those words to "cow" them, those words lose all their power.

Don't run from the meaningless scare words. Embrace them instead. When you do, their power ends.


(This post is original to WB, meaning "it was made by me to WB first"; I say that since Will once warned me about provenance of posts)


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In the world of debating, if one is answering questions, then one is almost certainly losing the debate. And when one loses the debate, he/she cannot hope to ever recast the opposing person into acknowledging, and then accepting, our way of thinking; and then eventually and ultimately converting the former "opponent" to our way of believing, comporting oneself, and living one's life for the sole purpose of guaranteeing the future and eternal destiny of our magnificent White race--which is the White Nationalist way in general, and the National Alliance way, in particular.

A "Whiter" way of handling the person on Twitter could have been:

Tweet: "You sound like a racist."

You: "Please define, in your own words, the oft-incorrectly-used noun "racist."

Tweet: "Well, gee...gosh golly...umm...hmmmm....I was never really asked that question."

You: "Then if you cannot define the noun 'racist,' how is it that you can dare to call me a 'racist?'"

Tweet: "Well...ummm...I'm not absolutely certain how and why I would be able to call you a 'racist.'"

You: Then if I am not a 'racist,' what do you suppose I am--in reality?"

Now, do you see how truly easy it is to gain the upper hand on these garden variety leftist progressive morons and idiots who proliferate Twitter like subhuman, barbaric moulinyans in a welfare line? (i.e., moulinyan = negro = nigger).

To emerge victorious in a debate you must control the narrative and you must NOT ever relinquish the upper hand. This is simple, strategic, "Debating 101." (it is my strategy, adapted from my, "rules for debating.").

Another time-tested rule for debating is that one should not EVER waste too much time on any one person. A seasoned, veteran debater can usually determine within about 2-3 minute's time if the person with whom he/she is debating might even be a prospective candidate for conversion into our way of thinking, acting, believing, etc. While I do not necessarily like the term, it does fit: debating and converting others is a "numbers game." For every "no" you receive, that puts you one person closer to the next person who will eventually say "yes."

Not that it really matters--because it does not--but I have never, ever been on Twitter in my entire life. To my way of thinking, frequenting too many Social Media Sites enfeebles the brain and permanently damages one's way of thinking.
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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by Jeff » Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:24 pm

I totally understand your position re: spending too much time on social media.

However.

I am a BIG BELIEVER in the concept of "force multiplication." Using social media websites allows you to reach maybe 100 people per day, if done correctly.

Granted, the internet does NOT take the place of real life encounters, but it's far better than wasting time on certain other activities.

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Post by Will Williams » Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:21 pm

Jeff wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:50 pm
Allow me to give an example of what I was talking about, re: posting un-PC things at X/Twitter:

First, you make a whole (un-PC) post at WB. Like this (this one isn't racist, but we'll pretend that it is):

A Parallel Army? A Second Coup?

Picture it: Chile, 1972. The "elected" Marxist leader of Chile, Salvador Allende, is creating a secret army with young men who have been trained in the Soviet Union and Cuba...
[snip]
Jeff, How many people that you interact with on social media have you recruited to join the National Alliance? I know the answer: Zero (0).

A purpose of WB is attracting and recruiting serious new Alliance members to our organization. To be an Alliance recruiter you should familiarize yourself with our most important recruiting booklet: https://www.natall.com/about/what-is-th ... -alliance/

You are neither an NA member nor even a supporter, yet you come on WB right out of the gate telling members and supporters how to attract newbies on social media platforms. I and other experienced members mentor new members here, advising them and answering their questions in the role of mentors -- like I just attempted to do with new NA member, Trenton, here: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=6659

You can't do that -- not yet -- and your advice about attracting 100 people per day on social media to NA doesn't work. Since you told me you are on the Gab platform, you might want to join its sub-section, "Christianity is White Genocide," that allegedly has 1,500 members, many already racially aware, and introduce provocative articles from National Vanguard with links, like this one by Dr. Dalton: https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/05/jesus-the-jew/ Our Douglas Mercer is on Gab. Go in there behind him promoting WB and NV,

Our online bookstore carries 25 of Dalton's titles. There are many other relevant articles by Dr. Pierce, Dr. Oliver, Ben Klassen, Martin Kerr, etc.
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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by Jeff » Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:59 pm

Will Williams wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:21 pm
Jeff wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:50 pm
Allow me to give an example of what I was talking about, re: posting un-PC things at X/Twitter:

First, you make a whole (un-PC) post at WB. Like this (this one isn't racist, but we'll pretend that it is):

A Parallel Army? A Second Coup?

Picture it: Chile, 1972. The "elected" Marxist leader of Chile, Salvador Allende, is creating a secret army with young men who have been trained in the Soviet Union and Cuba...
[snip]
Jeff, How many people that you interact with on social media have you recruited to join the National Alliance? I know the answer: Zero (0).

A purpose of WB is attracting and recruiting serious new Alliance members to our organization. To be an Alliance recruiter you should familiarize yourself with our most important recruiting booklet: https://www.natall.com/about/what-is-th ... -alliance/

You are neither an NA member nor even a supporter, yet you come on WB right out of the gate telling members and supporters how to attract newbies on social media platforms. I and other experienced members mentor new members here, advising them and answering their questions in the role of mentors -- like I just attempted to do with new NA member, Trenton, here: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=6659

You can't do that -- not yet -- and your advice about attracting 100 people per day on social media to NA doesn't work. Since you told me you are on the Gab platform, you might want to join its sub-section, "Christianity is White Genocide," that allegedly has 1,500 members, many already racially aware, and introduce provocative articles from National Vanguard with links, like this one by Dr. Dalton: https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/05/jesus-the-jew/ Our Douglas Mercer is on Gab. Go in there behind him promoting WB and NV,

Our online bookstore carries 25 of Dalton's titles. There are many other relevant articles by Dr. Pierce, Dr. Oliver, Ben Klassen, Martin Kerr, etc.


"and your advice about attracting 100 people per day on social media to NA doesn't work."


Actually, Will, that's not exactly what I meant. I meant "reaching" 100 people per day with the pro-White message on the web. Whether they will "bite" is anybody's guess. Some will, most won't.

As for GAB, good idea. Christianity is harmful, and it must be rejected by White people just as Marxism should be rejected. One reason I am not sorry for being banned from Stormfront 3 weeks ago is that WAY, WAY too many Christians are there. Why are they at SF??? Why were the trolls NOT banned but I was??? Makes no sense. Well, WN Lite won't cut the mustard.

If GAB will allow signature links (never tried it, too new), I would be glad to link to WB and NV. One thing about GAB: I have very few followers (4, last time I checked, which seems low even for a relative newbie).

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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by White Man 1 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:42 am

sonsofboston wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 10:18 pm
Racially-conscious is nothing but a return to traditional values. Nature’s values.
You are quite right. Racial consciousness is simply acknowledging the law of inequality, one of the most basic laws of Nature.

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Re: A Dialogue and Why It's Important (for Newbies)

Post by White_Vengeance » Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:32 pm

Jeff wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:24 pm
I totally understand your position re: spending too much time on social media.

However.

I am a BIG BELIEVER in the concept of "force multiplication." Using social media websites allows you to reach maybe 100 people per day, if done correctly.

Granted, the internet does NOT take the place of real life encounters, but it's far better than wasting time on certain other activities.
But, in reality, being a "recruiter" on a Social Media site is never a guarantee of reaching perhaps 100 people per day. Even with the amazing wonders of the most advanced digital (binary) and hexadecimal messaging across a wireless network, it is still impossible to ascertain how many people on the other end are receiving your message; and of an even greater impossibility to surmise how many people are actually bothering to read what you are posting, writing, authoring, composing, etc.

Conversely, if I go out on a pro-White activism effort on a weekend afternoon--something I do frequently--and I interact with a large number of White people...let's say 200 or 250...while I might not come close to convincing even a single person that it is his/her duty to get involved in the fight for the salvation, redemption, and return to glory and honor of our White race, I'm pretty certain that my short interaction--that brief moment in time--has conveyed to that White person the level of seriousness with which I have spoken about the imperiled state of our race. I also exude passion in my communication; and it deadly serious and genuine. While a person might claim that on Social Media he/she is able to communicate passion and seriousness in a typed message, that type of single-element communication is devoid of humanistic attributes. No less an outstanding recruiter than Der Fueher, Adolf Hitler, recognized the inherent benefits to personal, up-close, face-to-face interaction as eminently superior to the written word for purposes of recruiting. He discussed this very strategy in his blockbuster book/autobiography, Mein Kampf. (Side Note: For any White person who is involved in the White Nationalist movement and fighting for the salvation of our amazing White race, I cannot overemphasize the importance and the value of reading Mein Kampf, translated by Dr. Thomas Dalton. Once you have completed reading Mein Kampf (Volume #1 and Volume #2) you will never, ever again look at our White Nationalist movement nor at the inherent greatness of our White race though the same lens.).

Furthermore, during my very short, to-the-point, direct conversation with that White person, I calmly hand him/her a National Alliance flier that contains just enough commentary to make the person possibly do a small bit of soul searching. And, finally, that National Alliance flier has our organization's contact information; it is impossible for the White person to whom I handed that flier to ignore the simplicity of logging into the National Alliance Website and reading about our organization. Perhaps that will be the extent of that White person's investigation into the world of White racialism; however, that sojourn onto the National Alliance Website has left an indelible mark in that person's mind. Even the most timid, cowardly, effeminate White man--or timid, gutless, panic-stricken White woman--will be left with that everlasting imprint of the dangerous downward trajectory on which our fabulous White race has been traveling for decades. It is simply impossible for that pusillanimous White snowflake to block that image from his/her mind!

These are the huge benefits to conducting real-world, boots-on-the-ground pro-White activism as opposed to using Social Media sites in a rather futile effort to convert "invisible" people into our way of thinking, acting, believing, and supporting us--and hopefully joining the National Alliance. On Social Media sites that is an incredibly arduous and onerous challenge!
Any White person who can see the threat to the future of the White race today and who refuses, whether from cowardice or selfishness, to stand up for his/her people does not deserve to be counted among them.

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