Prospectus for a National Front

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:04 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:

"Now, whatever one may think of Pierce and his political views, this is a fascinating, audacious, and strange theory. It is by no means original, however. Essentially, Cosmotheism is identical (in broadest outline) to the philosophy of G. W. F. Hegel — right down to the racialist component. Cosmotheism is, in truth, a philosophical theory which Pierce chose to put forward as a religion."

Actually, Cosmotheism is an ancient religion whose philosophical theory has evolved with our
scientific knowledge of the Cosmos, and long predates Hegel. S Devi's "The Lightning and the
Sun" illustrates this quite clearly and is also within the earlier Aryan sanskrit Vedas and
Upanishads. John Carver should do a little more historical research on a subject before
making such false claims as "Cosmotheism is, in truth, a philosophical theory which
Pierce chose to put forward as a religion."

Best regards,
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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:17 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:

"But considering it first as a philosophy (and setting Hegel aside), what evidence is there to support Cosmotheism?"

There is plenty of evidence to support Cosmotheism.
http://www.panpsychism.net/html/putting_back.html
However, it would take an encyclopedia of knowledge
that Carver lacks to list it all.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/panpsych/

"Pierce, in fact, presents no arguments for the basic tenets of Cosmotheism. He presents no arguments for why we should consider “the whole” to be God."

On the contrary, the basic tenets of Cosmotheism are implicit. The Whole is the greater of
the sum of its parts. It is a Cosmos. Thus, like in your own body, the cells come and go, are
transitiory, are in time, the Whole, your own self, is actually eternal relative to them and is
their "Creator". The Whole is not yet "a God" but evolves towards a Personal Godhood via us.

Best regards,
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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:26 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:

"Cosmotheism does not rest on a set of arguments at all. It is a vision
— a grand vision — which we are either captivated by, or we are not."


On the contrary, the set of arguements are based on reality and scientific knowledge and
insight and intuition. It is more the recognition of this reality both within and without us
that is "captivating". "Thou art that and are of that", at one and the same time. This is
an insight that only comes from within, as it is experienced, and it is a form of both self-
realization and our proper place and purpose within the Cosmos.

"Thus, in the final analysis it might indeed be better to see Cosmotheism
as religion rather than as philosophy. But here too there are serious problems."


Indeed, it is both/and and is not either/or. The "problems" are not "serious".
In fact, they are really only existing via and of your own lack of understanding
of Cosmotheism and religion and philosophy.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:41 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:

"First of all, Cosmotheism is really a form of monotheism, and it exhibits many of the same problems we see in other monotheistic religions. Chief among these is a highly abstract conception of God divorced from lived experience, and divorced from nature. According to Cosmotheism, we do not find God within nature (as we do in the paganism of our ancestors)."

On the contrary, Cosmotheism is not "really a form of monotheism" at all. It is the recognition
that the Creator is Nature and us and is Reality itself. Divinity is within nature and within our
own selves and we are the means for the Cosmos to self-realize itself in a Personal Godhood.

"Nature is “part of the whole,” but it is not the whole itself. Thus, the God of Cosmotheism transcends nature and the senses entirely."

Indeed, because the "Whole" is both a spiritual reality and a physical one at one and the same
time. Just as your mind and consciousness can transcend nature and your senses entirely with
abstract mathematics and physics, for example, or universal moral or physical laws of reality.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Kevin Alfred Strom » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:47 pm

Mike, Will, Cosmotheist:

Thank you. Truly inspiring.

All my best,

Kevin.

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:20 pm

Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:Mike, Will, Cosmotheist:

Thank you. Truly inspiring.

All my best,

Kevin.
Kevin,

You are most welcome. :D
You have been inspiring us all for years.
It is nice to be able to return the favor.

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:38 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:


"In this regard, Cosmotheism is actually a worse form of monotheism than Judaism,
Christianity, and Islam, since it presents us with a God completely without any personal properties."


Actually, that's what makes Cosmotheism the "antithesis" of those "personal monotheisms"
like "Judaism, Christianity, and Islam". The "personal properties" are all in us, or are within
therefore the future real Godhood of Cosmos, and are not currently in these three "fictional"
Personal "Big Daddys" in the sky nonsense.

Cosmotheism is a realistic form of panentheism that lacks these childish forms of religion
with their "Personal Gods" mentioned above and is far superior to them thereby. There is
nothing "worse" about Cosmotheism relative to those three semitic and primitive religions.


"Worse yet, an “incomplete” God on whom we must put the finishing touches."


Worse yet for just who or whom?
http://www.westernspring.co.uk/god-a-work-in-progress/
The evil in the world comes "from within not without"
and "as does the good". We are all personally responsible
for our own lives and world and Cosmos.
http://williamlutherpierce.blogspot.com ... ncept.html


"This is truly a “God of the philosophers” and not the stuff of religion.
It is not the sort of thing that could be believed in (let alone understood)
by people of all walks of life."


It is clear that John has no idea of what the "stuff of religion" entails.
What could be easier to be believed in and to be understood by people
of all walks of life is that:

"God" is both the beginning and it is the endpoint of our racial and Cosmic Evolution.
It is both the Alpha and the Omega of Reality, and of which is the Cosmos as a Whole.
"God" is all of us within it "becoming" and "evolving" ever towards a Personal Godhood.

Cosmotheism is a religion which positively asserts there is an internal meaning and purpose in life and in the cosmos.
There is an essential unity, or consciousness that binds all living beings and all of the inorganic cosmos, as one.
And what our true identity is this: we are the cosmos, made self-aware and self-conscious by evolution.
Our undeniable human purpose, is to know and to complete ourselves as conscious individuals,
and also as a self-aware species, and thereby to co-evolve with the cosmos towards total and
universal awareness, and towards the ever-higher perfection of consciousness and being.

The original triad of pamphlets on Cosmotheism by Dr. Pierce are:

Book #1: The Path
http://www.solargeneral.com/whitevoluti ... /the-path/
and a video on it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTgCON1grFM

Book #2: On Living Things
http://www.solargeneral.com/whitevoluti ... ng-things/
and a video on it here:
http://youtu.be/hpBL29W_c1E


Book #3: On Society
http://www.solargeneral.com/whitevoluti ... n-society/
and a video on it here:
http://youtu.be/4-OSmCqki-g





Best regards,
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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:13 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:



"Further, there are more similarities between Cosmotheism and the Judeo-Christian tradition than the simple fact that both are monotheist. Pierce’s Cosmotheism speaks of a specific race charged with a special mission vis-à-vis God. What can this remind us of except God’s covenant with the Israelites, the Chosen People? In fact, certain forms of Jewish Kabbalism actually claim that it is the task of the Jewish people to “complete” God’s creation through the observance of the Law. In recent times the Israeli writer Mordekhay Nesiyahu formulated a kind of secularized version of this doctrine, which he actually termed “Cosmotheism”! (I have no idea if William Pierce knew about this, but if he did I’m sure he must have found it disturbing.)"



Cosmotheism is a "impersonal monotheism", if that, and is actually a panentheism or of which the Cosmos as a Whole is currently evolving towards a Personal Godhood, verses the static and the "personal Judeo-Christian-Muslim monotheisms" that are all just fictional and mythological.

True enough, however, the "specific race" charged with a specific mission to complete the Cosmos in a Personal Godhood is the only one that has demonstrated by its own historical achievements the inherent "potential" to actually do so but only if it remains on the upward path of cosmic evolution: The White Race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6C9taivF40

I am sure that Dr. Pierce was aware of the Jewish forms of Cosmotheism and of their false attempts to claim it for themselves, and also, to just pervert it for their own race's benefit, or as has happened so many times in the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClPShKs9Kr0
See also Dr. Pierce's quotes in red here:
http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=30
We just don't choose to lie and to say a "GOD" had told us to do so in so. We choose to do it because it is the right
thing to do all within our own Will and our own Race Soul.


"In sum, Pierce’s theory is very much in the Judeo-Christian spirit. It is monotheist. It sees a particular people as (in effect) entering into a special covenant with God and playing a role of cosmic importance."


Not really. It is the anti-thesis of the Judeo-Christian-Muslim "spirit". It is Faustian.
It is Aryan. It sees the race that has accomplished what no other race has and/or can
ever achieve: the will and ability to rise ever higher in both consciousness and being.
To us Cosmotheists, "God" does not exist, yet, until and unless we ourselves make it
so.



"It has a linear conception of time: it raises the history of scientific progress up into the dimension of the sacred."


Not exactly linear but a progressive conception of time based upon our own increasing
intuitive and scientific knowledge of reality and the realization that only the Whole or
only the Divine Purpose of the Cosmos as a Whole is actually sacred or Divine.



"It even promises a kind of immortality to the members of the race who accept this mission and take part."


A "immortality that is based upon reality" as in "The Fame of a Dead's Man Deeds",
http://www.swa43.com/downloads/ebooks/myawakening.pdf ,
and this is the actual promise that is given to all true Cosmotheists.



"If we find the Judeo-Christian tradition problematic,
then we must find theories like Cosmotheism problematic as well."



Not all all. The Judeo-Christian-Muslim traditions are problematic only because all three are
based upon fantasy and fiction. Cosmotheism is all rooted firmly in Reality and this is a major
difference.


"And, like Christianity, Cosmotheism is de facto a universalistic religion. Now, this will seem a strange claim since Pierce offers it as an ethnic religion — a religion for whites exclusively."



A religion that is for "Whites only and exclusively" is not any "de facto universalistic religion" at all.
That is not only a "strange claim" it's a "false one to claim that it is one" as Dr. Pierce made it clear.

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:01 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:



"But consider the following. Pierce would certainly have acknowledged that there are members of other races who have the ability to advance scientific knowledge. He might have argued that their numbers are small, but he would have conceded that they exist."



Advancing scientific knowledge alone really has nothing to do with Cosmotheism for Whites.


"In Pierce’s terms, such non-whites are therefore capable of playing a role in “completing God.”"



Not at all. Completing "God" is the exclusive mission of Whites alone within Cosmotheism.



"If whites adopted Cosmotheism, eventually — far into the future — this point would be made."



No, it wouldn't, as it would not be any "relevant point then" anymore than it is one today.
True White Cosmotheists will ensure that "completing "God" is the "exclusive mission" of
"Whites alone" within our Cosmotheism".


"Eventually the pietistic teenaged sons and daughters of affluent white Cosmotheists would argue that it is unfair to exclude so-and-so from the great cosmic project since, after all, isn’t he exceptional? Hasn’t he proved himself to be a gifted physicist, or what have you? Can’t he help advance the self-consciousness of the Creator? And in this way what had begun as an ethnic religion would morph into a universalistic one."



Nope. Not relevant. Maybe for his "own race" but NOT within our own White Race.
All true White Cosmotheists will see to it that no such "morphing" into any such one
will or can ever happen again.

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Re: Prospectus for a National Front

Post by Cosmotheist » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:19 pm

A Cosmotheist response to John Carvers article on
"Cosmotheism", or more specifically, his somewhat
false criticisms of it.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/07/cosmotheism/

John writes:




"But let’s now set aside the details of the Cosmotheist theory and consider first the remarkable fact that it was put forward at all. When we do, we find that Pierce’s Cosmotheism — for all its flaws — reveals something very unusual about white people."


The "Cosmotheist theory" has been a "suppressed" thread within White thought and religion
for many thousands of years. It was put forward more recently by Dr. Pierce all based upon
recent scientific knowledge and that confirms the ancient wisdom all gained by intuition.


"Pierce arrived at Cosmotheism as a result of his realization that he needed to offer white people a justification for saving their race. If we stop and think about it, this ought to seem very peculiar. Other peoples do not seem to need to “justify” protecting and preferring their own. They simply feel a natural affinity for their own kind and seek to promote the interests of others like themselves."


This is very "peculiar", as has been the non-stop suppression and persecution of the idea of any " ....natural affinity
for their own kind and seek to promote the interests of others like themselves.", by the usual suspects and their allies,
for very many generations of our Race, alone. Cosmotheism is Pierce's spiritual answer to the justification Whites
need to save their own Race, or that has been "deliberately and with malice beforehand" been propagandized all out
of them.


"A race or ethnicity is simply a group of genetically-similar people. So is a family. Suppose that a man needed a “justification” for preferring his own family to others or for protecting his family and promoting its interests. Suppose that John Smith saw his wife and children in harm’s way and said “Can you give me any good reason to protect them? Are they worth saving?” Or suppose that when faced with the necessity of providing for their future he said “But why should I set aside money for my own family, and not someone else’s? Perhaps some other family deserves it more.” We would consider such a man to be oddly twisted and defective. We would think that he is missing something very important. And that something is, of course, a feeling of love of one’s own — something felt by most people in the absence of any “justifications” or rational arguments."


Indeed, and that man which is "oddly twisted and defective" is the vast majority of the White Race today via Judeo-Christianity, liberalism, feminism, communism, individualism, ......and a whole host of "isms" that are designed by the "usual suspects" to keep the entire White Race in mental and spiritual and emotional chains of slavery!
http://blacksuninvictus.org/journalists.html
The White Race is a targeted Race for extinction that has "lost its own true Spiritual Soul", and Dr. Pierce's true White Cosmotheism is the only real means for Whites to get it back.


"On one level, Pierce’s Cosmotheism and his conviction that it is necessary reveal something very singular about white, European people: they have a tendency to feel that they must justify their very existence, in one way or another. To be sure, this is not true of all of them. But generally the greater their intelligence and their capacity for abstract reasoning (especially reasoning in terms of moral principles) the more they feel that in order to love their own people and protect them, their people must be worth loving and worth protecting."



This insight into Whites is targeted in Cosmotheism by Pierce for those few Whites of greater
"intelligence and greater reasoning ability and in terms of moral principles" to "Love their own Race",
but, that have lost their own "inner instinct" to actually do so.

Cosmotheism is not for the masses because the majority of the masses are "amoral" and
are "herd animals" that do and say only what is "fashionable" and "expected" of them by
their own lying "authority figures" in the mass media, in their churches, etc. To those of
us that are aware and that are true Cosmotheists, any such a "justification" to both love
and to protect our own White Race is unnecessary but it is prudent for the White masses.


"Again, my impression is that this is not so true of other peoples – even the intelligentsia of other peoples. They seem to have a stronger tendency to identify with and promote the interests of their own people, just because they are like each other. This is, arguably, a much healthier mindset – at least if one thinks that the survival and flourishing of one’s own group is a value."




Indeed, and all these "other people's" are not the actual "prime targets for genocide" or by
the "usual suspects" as is the White Race and has been for at least the last 60 plus years.
Other than the Palestinians, perhaps, all other races are being promoted all at the expense
of only the White Race. This has been a deliberate plan of White genocide via miscegenation
and by negative population growth.


"One wants to say to William Pierce, “If your mission is saving your race, why don’t you just encourage them to be like other peoples and love their own simply because it is their own?"


Indeed, Pierce actually has done so as in his "Love your Race" flyers on every Valentines Day,
for just one example.



"Why do you set forth this grand philosophical (or religious) vision — open to a whole host of queries and objections — and have everything hinge on that?”"



Only because it is the spiritual Whole Truth of Reality that alone will free us from our chains,
that is why. The "whole host of queries and objections" are welcome as almost all are invalid.


"But the answer is, again, that white Europeans are different. Needing to become worthy of being saved, needing a mission that justifies us, is simply part of our nature. There is no getting around this. Arguably, it is a terrible flaw. Of course, one can also argue that it is a great virtue. Either way, it looks like we Europeans are stuck with it."


Yes. We Whites are different. We have an inherent need to be worthy and to have a mission
that suits our own inner nature and that justifies our own individual existence. It is not any
flaw. It is a great virtue. Cosmotheism gives us Whites the answers to all of these needs and
more. It shows Whites their "inherent value in the greater Whole" of the Cosmos and in their
own Race. It gives a true meaning and purpose within their own lives and within the Cosmos,
and that reflects their own inner Race Soul.


"And so we can imagine Pierce responding to the above criticism by saying “All right, if not Cosmotheism, what then?” It is an excellent question, to which I have no answer."


Indeed, and it is ever the "ignorant critic" that never really has the answers to any of his own
"imagined" and false "problems". :D

I can imagine Dr. Pierce responding to all of these "criticisms" in the same way
that "all true White Cosmotheists actually can" or just as I have and with all of
these same Whole Cosmotheist Truths of Reality. Cosmotheism answers the
these main and the most critical issues of life and our identity and existence:
Who We Are: http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/ ... %20Are.pdf
Where We Have Been: http://www.barnesreview.org/march-of-th ... -p-45.html
Where We Are Going: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBEcfrCQI0I
What is Our Purpose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k48HUhERNj0

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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