Will Williams on Gab

[Douglas Mercer]

https://gab.com/DouglasMercer/posts/110765397590736080

[Will Williams]

I was not suggesting that the National Alliance should adopt a big tent approach, only that in the broader struggle it will (perhaps unfortunately) be necessary for us to deal and work with those who call themselves Christians. And that there is value in spreading the NA ideology on a site like Gab, which Will seemed to dismiss. By all means the NA should jealously guard its ideology and not let it be subverted by anyone, but it will need allies on the outside if victory is to be won. In that struggle I think a site like Gab is a positive, if limited, force which should not be rejected out of hand.

This is such an important discussion. It may have helped to put a link to the source: https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/07/ch ... classmate/ I saw just one comment under what you put up from me. It was from a fellow who said we need to pray more. Other comments struck me as typical conservative blather like on Faceberg. They may not get banned but they lead Gabbers nowhere that I could see, except to Jesus.

First, you say, "The idea that you can carve out a remnant in the backwoods and not have them hunt you down eventually is pie in the sky nonsense." The community we're building is small now, but it is real, not virtual. It's rural but not in the backwoods, and nobody is hunting us down. Virtual movements like we saw with the defunct alt-right stuck me as pie-in-the-sky nonsense. One thing I noticed about the various alt-right factions was that they did not take a position on Christianity for fear of offending Christians. How did that work out for them? Where are they now?

I've encouraged our members to use social media to spread our sites links around if that's what they like to do, and especially Pierce's talks on the video channel that we control: https://video.natall.com/dr-william-pie ... slaughter/ I don't have time to play around on social media myself, except for WB and NV, if they are considered social media.

Jim Mathias expressed NA policy very well above. And, SW, I'll say that soon after Dr. Pierce died, we had approximately 1215 dues-paying members and were certainly seen as the sensible, rational reality-based biological alternative to the much more populous Christian patriot-controlled opposition.

Jews do not fear Christian groups; they fear us. Fact! Do the ADL or FBI say Andrew Torba is the most dangerous man in America as they did Pierce? Hardly, and they never will since Andrew's Jew, Jesus, is his king. Andrew isn't even racist. I recently quoted him saying exactly that in our BULLETIN.

We had the same Cosmotheist ideology under Pierce as we have now, and our Christian members back then did not object, though some, like the influx of Skinheads who were attracted to Resistance Records didn't care for Cosmotheism, or even understand it. Many were Christian Identists, of all things. Neither did Gliebe or his sidekick Walker, who eventually did jettison Cosmotheism and went "big tent" to compete with Christian patriot groups with their ill-advised Christian friendly "broader outreach." What a disaster! What had set NA apart was gone! Members who had been attracted to Pierce's approach left NA in droves until when, 12 years after his death, I inherited a total of 24 members.

Having a clean slate to rebuild with was actually advantageous. What we had and still have that no one else has is Dr. Pierce's legacy. Some will try to copy us. Good luck with that.

Social media aside, that big tent approach is what I dismiss, Douglas. We don't care to be the biggest group, only the most honest and the best. We lost a member this month who can't let loose of his Christian church and perceives NA as anti-Christian. That's OK with me. I wish him well. Jim points out that we criticize Christianity as being Jewish, but we do want to convert followers to our way of viewing the world, yes. That's what we do. When there are more of us than there are hymn singers who oppose us and say we just need to pray more to Yahweh, the tables will have turned.

In rebuilding NA I have reemphasized Pierce's Cosmotheism, even finally publishing its bible. Collecting Pierce's talks and, first, putting them in the 12-volume Power of Truth CD series, then on Bitchute as 240 slide shows, and finally on our own video channel was done purposefully: figuring what had attracted me to Pierce and NA was Pierce -- all Pierce, all the time -- no matter that all of his talks are now more than two decades old.

You have the ability to attract new people to NA with your hard-hitting essays, Douglas, as does Thomas Dalton, especially with his "Jesus the Jew," and other anti-Christian essays and Nature-based National Socialist books, concentrating on our Jew enemy. We now carry 27 of his books in our bookstore and they sell well, keeping us going since Jew-controlled Amazon.com has practically destroyed our bookselling by banning all of our books.

[Will Williams]

I was not suggesting that the National Alliance should adopt a big tent approach, only that in the broader struggle it will (perhaps unfortunately) be necessary for us to deal and work with those who call themselves Christians. And that there is value in spreading the NA ideology on a site like Gab, which Will seemed to dismiss. By all means the NA should jealously guard its ideology and not let it be subverted by anyone, but it will need allies on the outside if victory is to be won. In that struggle I think a site like Gab is a positive, if limited, force which should not be rejected out of hand.

We'll see if there are allies at Gab, or not. But after you explained to me that Gab actually has a sub-forum named "Christianity is White Genocide" I will attempt to join that Gab sub-forum and test its free speech policy.

I was sent this latest article by Gab owner Andrew "Christ is King" Torba who takes on the powerful ADL, that he describes as "a disgusting organization," so he can't be all bad. He describes ADL's Greenblatt as a "ghoulish vampire."
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Why Elon Can’t #BantheADL
Even if He Wanted To
Andrew Torba, September 2, 2023

Over the past few days a grassroots campaign popped up on X calling for the platform to ban the ADL. The campaign, united around the hashtag #BantheADL, has been trending on the platform for days with hundreds of thousands of posts.

This campaign comes after the CEO of the ADL, Jonathan Greenblatt, made a post gloating about his organization’s sheer power to control the platform that Elon Musk purchased for tens of billions of dollars last year. Although the #BantheADL campaign effectively highlighted the significant influence the ADL holds in regulating the flow of information online, it is essential to delve into the reasons why Elon Musk cannot remove the ADL from the platform or hinder their effective management of his company, even if he were inclined to do so.

First we have to understand a bit of the context for how a platform like X actually works and is able to exist on the internet along with the inside baseball of how the ADL flexes its power to control massive corporations without owning a single share.

X is built on the rails of multiple third-party services including, but not limited to the Google Cloud infrastructure among others. X has had a partnership with Google Cloud since 2018, and Bloomberg reports that this collaboration has incurred annual expenses ranging from $200 million to $300 million for the company. Jonathan Greenblatt has openly bragged about the ADL’s partnership with Google, YouTube, Facebook, and X, going so far as to change the algorithms of these companies to meet their demands.

With one phone call to Google the ADL can cripple X. If Google pulls the plug on the cloud hosting deal massive parts of X’s critical infrastructure will be down for a long time, possibly the entire platform would be taken offline with one click. We saw this happen in 2020 with Parler when Amazon AWS pulled the plug and the platform was taken offline. They were never able to fully recover and recently shut the platform down completely after it sold to a third-party.

Going after the cloud hosting providers is just the start for the ADL’s ability to utterly destroy X. Next come the app store bans. With that same phone call to Google the ADL could easily highlight the hundreds of thousands of “antisemitic” posts on the platform and point the the #BantheADL posts as their prime example. Don’t put it past them. They likely have multiple studies going on behind the scenes tracking the “rise in hate” on the platform since Elon took over and will use this to present their case.

Without critical infrastructure and the app stores X would be in serious trouble, but Elon may be able to pull off a miracle and keep the platform online. Next come the advertisers. The ADL has close connections with all of the top Fortune 500 companies and will use their mafia-style power to get these companies to pull their ad dollars from X. This has already been going on since the moment Elon took over the platform. X is operating in a cash flow negative situation and reports claim that ad revenue has fallen by a dramatic 50% since Elon took over.

That’s only the beginning. Next the ADL will contact the sitting members of Congress and the Biden White House. We’ll see Elon be summoned to testify in Congress about the rise in “misinformation” and “hate” on the platform since he took over.

Elon is in a unique position because he’s not only running X. He’s also running several other companies including SpaceX and Tesla, both of which require him to appease the Regime and stay within their favor. The ADL can and will go after not only X, but all of Elon’s companies. It’s no coincidence that the CEO of X is having meetings with the ADL just days after the DOJ announced that they were suing SpaceX.

How do I know all of this? Because I lived it–and survived it by the grace of God.

The ADL has been attacking Gab and me for many years. Their smear campaigns against us successfully lobbied dozens of third-party services to deplatform us and cripple our infrastructure. Despite all of their efforts this didn’t stop us. We were able to rebuild our own servers, payment processing, and so much more in order to keep Gab online. It took many years and it wasn’t easy, but we are still standing.

The ADL has also come after me personally. They pay Google to promote their smear articles about me to the top of search results. They lobbied the DOJ to investigate me after January 6th, even though I wasn’t even in attendance. Jonathan Greenblatt went on national television and called me “one of the most toxic people in public life” effectively painting a target on my back.

None of this stopped me.

I don’t fear the ADL. I don’t answer to the ADL. I fear and answer only to God almighty [the Jew's and the ADL's tribal entity, oddly enough ].

The ADL has NO POWER over Gab which is why they hate us. It’s that simple. There is absolutely nothing they can say or do to get us to censor opinions they don’t like and it’s going to stay that way.

Elon has a choice. He can continue to allow this disgusting organization to run his company by proxy without his approval or he can fight back, take a stand like Gab has, and face the consequences head on. He can continue to have his CEO take groveling phone calls and enforce the ADL’s strategy of freedom of speech but not freedom of reach [aka shadow banning] or he can tell them to pound sand. If he can’t run his own business without permission from some ghoulish vampire at the ADL there’s no sense in running a business at all.

For me it was an easy decision.

Andrew Torba
CEO, Gab.com
Jesus Christ is King of kings
https://news.gab.com/2023/09/why-elon-c ... wanted-to/