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Post by Will Williams » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:31 pm

I wouldn't characterize this site, owned and run by Dr. Greg Johnson, as less radical than the National Alliance necessarily, but more as intellectual, with a number of academics writing articles and commenting there. Some content is certainly interesting, but not consistent with our Alliance's revolutionary, strict racial separation and Cosmotheist spiritual foundation.

Counter-Currents (C-C) is an impressive site and in December I was prompted to join its paywall to see how it works and if we might use some of what I learn there to improve our own sites. Doing so entitled me to commenting privileges, and I've put up a couple of comments there since. Hopefully a few like-minded people there who read them will go to the NA links I've included.

A James Dumphy posted an 8-part series on psychopathy and I commented under one of his own comments under it, here:
https://counter-currents.com/2022/12/a- ... hs-part-1/


James Dunphy December 19, 2022 at 8:47 am
What I mean by psychopathy transcending race is that it does so partly in the sense that within each race there are people with high and low levels of psychopathy, but overall some races show more psychopathy than others. IQ works the same way. It varies within a race but differs between races.
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Will Williams February 11, 2023 at 8:00 pm
That is all very interesting professor Dumphy, what you say about psychopathy and IQ transcending race. So, being simple-minded, I picture a Bell Curve for psychopathy by race, sort of like there’s one for IQ by race: left side psychopathic — marked by egocentric and antisocial activity, a lack of remorse for one’s actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often with criminal tendencies — or detrimental; right side stable, normal and favorable, with most people somewhere in the middle. Such is the human material we must work with. Healthy, racially responsible, spiritually pure Whites to the front.

As leader of the National Alliance (NA), the organization that works for the survival, preservation and advancement of the White race, I don’t care about ether IQs or the spectrum of psychopathy in other races since our goal is to geographically separate the best of our race from other races, even their best. Period.

A White with below average IQ is not ineligible for Alliance membership but a high IQ White –Aryan, non-Jew — who is a queer or transsexual, a drug addict, of low moral character, etc., or who is racially mixed or has non-White dependents is ineligible. That is the way our members like it and should a member exhibit psychopathic or criminal tendencies that reflect negatively on other members or our community, he will subject himself to be uninvited from our ingroup.

A Woman’s Guide to Identifying a Good Man in a world gone stark raving mad shouldn’t be very complicated. She will know him when he sees him in a wholesome White community of shared values — just like in the old days when our world was White, not racially mixed and thoroughly Judaized. Psychopathy aside, our Cosmotheist values are the glue that holds our community together: Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future by William Pierce – Cosmotheism (cosmotheistchurch.org)
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:56 pm

Under an article posted by Greg Johnson in mid-December a Jew commented and I replied to that, here: https://counter-currents.com/2022/12/th ... h-twitter/

Rational Hebe December 16, 2022 at 12:32 pm
Both. I’m Jewish and I genuinely hate what Jews are doing to White people, so I give shekels to dissident right causes and argue alt right talking points in my private life.

But Jews also try to join the dissident right and neuter it from the inside. Hazony promotes non-racial nationalism for Whites, but since he’s a Jewish ethnonationalist, his subversion was dead on arrival. Cofnas admitted race realism is true (infiltration), but then explained away Jewish influence with IQ (subversion). Loomer is an idiot, and she isn’t genuine: she is pro free speech and she wants BDS banned.

White nationalism is a White movement and Jews should not take leading roles in it. Any Jew who wants to lead is likely trying to infiltrate and subvert. But TRS goes too far when they deny good Jews exist.

In the long run Jews and Whites cannot coexist–separation is best. Honestly, I want an exception for myself since I prefer White people and White civilization–but even if I end up being excluded from White society I still support White nationalism, because if things continue as they are White civilization will be exterminated via diversity and I won’t enjoy it anyway.
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I found that interesting and responded to parts of it (highlighted), and to what Greg wrote about his being banned from Twitter and Gab "free speech" platforms:

Will Williams February 12, 2023 at 9:28 am
Rational Hebe: December 16, 2022
… I’m Jewish and I genuinely hate what Jews are doing to White people… In the long run Jews and Whites cannot coexist–separation is best. Honestly, I want an exception for myself since I prefer White people and White civilization–but even if I end up being excluded from White society I still support White nationalism, because if things continue as they are White civilization will be exterminated via diversity….

Yes, White replacement is no theory, it is fact.

It’s nice to see a genuine Jewish hater who agrees with strict racial separation of Aryans from your tribe and other non-White races. It’s also good that you commit to this by donating to C-C.

Jews are ineligible for National Alliance membership, but those who feel as you do can be financial supporters, receive our monthly BULLETIN, and won’t be seen as “infiltrators” who would try to steer our movement away from its anti-Jew fundamentals. See: Join Us | National Alliance (natall.com)

We won’t play Good Jew/Bad Jew because, like Jews, we are group thinkers (despite Tucker Carlson’s silly “sworn opposition to group think”).

Greg, it’s no big surprise to me that you were banned from so-called “free speech” platforms Twitter and Gab. I’ve never been on either, nor on other Jew-owned/run social media. The Internet is a wonderful tool if in the right hands; unfortunately, most of it is not in our hands. Best wishes to White separatists who can promote our determined positions and our sites using media of those opposed to us. I’ll stick to our own, thanks.
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Post by Jim Mathias » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:28 am

I'm going to take some time to digest the concept of conversing with Jews in places like CC or anywhere else. Friendly or not, this frog sees all scorpions the same (nodding to the fable of the Scorpion and the Frog).
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:16 am

Jim Mathias wrote:
Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:28 am
I'm going to take some time to digest the concept of conversing with Jews in places like CC or anywhere else. Friendly or not, this frog sees all scorpions the same (nodding to the fable of the Scorpion and the Frog).

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Who's conversing with Jews, Jim? :D Read those comments again.

Am I conversing with Jews in this comment?: https://counter-currents.com/2023/02/an ... le-part-2/

Will Williams February 18, 2023 at 8:04 pm
Antipodean says: Interesting piece of self-promotion but there’s a whole lot of mudslinging against Prof. Faurisson…



Cole says: … [Y]ou had Faurisson — always fucking Faurisson — going on about “ze liar Jews! Zee proof a Jew lies ees zat he’s a Jew!”

Cole is a disgusting Jew, and not just for saying that about one of our kin’s foremost truth-tellers. He reveals himself throughout this interview.

Someone asked if anyone met Faurisson, Hadding Scott did and rated him with William Pierce as a truth-teller of the very top rank. See here: Dr. Robert Faurisson talks about Dachau – National-Socialist Worldview (national-socialist-worldview.com)


Hadding: [W]hen I met him at his home in August 2000 he said something that on its face might seem at variance from what he had said publicly 8 years earlier. About the lie of the Holocaust, he said:

R.F: “It is not a British lie; it is not a Communist lie: it is a big Jewish lie.”
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Who really cares what racial Jews Cole and Unz have to say? We know all we need to know about their tribe’s big lie, and all other Jewish treachery without their help. Neither one, nor their dependents, will ever be eligible for National Alliance membership, thanks. That’s the way we like it.
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Post by Agent_of_the_Avalanche » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:41 am

I must admit, Will, I really don't like the idea of any Non-Whites receiving our monthly Bulletin --no matter how much they donate -- let alone the most deadly variant of them! But unfortunately, at present, the membership/supporter application process cannot verify whether or not an applicant is even White; only that they can write and donate at least $20 a month(which might exclude most inner-city Blacks but almost no Jews). How did Pierce feel about this?

Also, not only do I believe in vast, geographic, racial separation between Whites and Non-Whites, I also believe in vast geographic separation between Jews and Power. Due to their historical record, Jews mustn't be permitted ANY Power what-so-ever. Not even in the literal sense in the form of electricity. Not even the means to communicate above the verbal level. They're just too great a risk!

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Agent_of_the_Avalanche wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:41 am
I must admit, Will, I really don't like the idea of any Non-Whites receiving our monthly Bulletin --no matter how much they donate -- let alone the most deadly variant of them! But unfortunately, at present, the membership/supporter application process cannot verify whether or not an applicant is even White; only that they can write and donate at least $20 a month(which might exclude most inner-city Blacks but almost no Jews).
I appreciate your concern. All members must meet eligibility requirements, AA. If one is found to lie about his eligibility, he is not approved, or in some cases can possibly be a supporter if deemed acceptable as such.

I am unaware of any Alliance member who is non-White. Are you aware of any? If so, let me know who.

The more members we have across the country, the better we are able to have new applicants evaluated face-to-face by a trusted member in his region.

We must run NA as a business and have two revenue streams: sales of books and CDs, etc., and members' dues and donations. At this time book sales keep the lights on and pay for certain overhead. Until we get many more dues-paying members to increase the latter stream, we depend on generous donations above and beyond monthly pledges of our members. Unfortunately, those are few and far between.

I await our first racially responsible multi-millionaire who believes in Alliance-building and is sufficiently impressed with our progress to take our operation off the kitchen table into a force to be reckoned with. We are well-positioned for that. It may happen by a member or supporter making the Alliance the beneficiary of his estate in his will. Who knows. Meanwhile we stay on course.

How did Pierce feel about this?
The same as I. He told me once that as soon as we have 1,000 dues-paying members the Alliance would take off. When he hired me as NA's first Membership Coordinator I immediately increased minimum monthly dues from $5 to $10. We only had 200+/- members at the time. Membership tripled within two years and did take off during that pre-Internet period, relatively speaking. It was another nine years for membership to double again by the time our Founder died in 2002.

When I took over in late 2014 all Local Units were gone <poof!> and the Alliance was down to just 24 members. Imagine rebuilding from that, dealing with an abandoned headquarters, multi-million dollar lawsuits and massive debt incurred by my predecessor. Dr. Pierce's life's work had to be saved. I rose to the challenge, by first bringing Kevin Strom in to help with media, as only he could do, then by doubling dues again to $20, Now, when we build to 1,000 members and begin forming Local Units again, the sufficient, dependable monthly revenue stream will elevate Alliance-building to a higher plateau. It's time.

Also, not only do I believe in vast, geographic, racial separation between Whites and Non-Whites, I also believe in vast geographic separation between Jews and Power. Due to their historical record, Jews mustn't be permitted ANY Power what-so-ever. Not even in the literal sense in the form of electricity. Not even the means to communicate above the verbal level. They're just too great a risk!
I can't disagree at all with that. We can separate now, but it's on an individual and community level. That is doable. However separating Jews from their vast power is something we can't do much about at this time except to explain it to our people, which we are doing as best we can with what is available to us. Keep doing what you're doing, AA, and help us to meet achievable intermediate goals.

Now, back to my comments about Jews on C-C. One I put up there this morning:

An Interview with David Cole Part 2 | Counter-Currents
 Will Williams February 19, 2023 at 8:04 am
To add about Cole, I refer to Hadding Scott’s 2017 article https://jan27.org/semi-revisionism-is-dead/. I understand that Hadding was banned from C-C years ago for reasons which I’m unaware, but his critical synopsis of Cole’s position is worth review in the context of this interview of him.

Hadding analyzes Cole’s appearance on the 1994 Phil Donahue Show, linked above for comparison, including this observation from an “ex-Jew.”

“David Cole was getting a lot of publicity for somebody who had only been interested in Holocaust Revisionism for a short time. How did he get so much attention so quickly?It is interesting, in this context, to consider an observation by “ex-Jew” Gilad Atzmon, about what he calls “satellite Jewish dissent.” When there is a “Jewish problem,” Atzmon observes, it is very easy for a Jew to take charge of the non-Jews’ protest, and thus to turn a protest against Jews into what amounts to controlled opposition. The reason why this is easy for a Jew to do is that nobody wants to be in conflict with the Jews and to incur all the trouble that comes with that. To avoid all that trouble, the non-Jews allow the Jew to speak for them and to become their leader. The result is that what began as a complaint against Jews becomes a quarrel among Jews, with the outcome of that quarrel limited to the possibilities that are acceptable to Jews. Atzmon even refers to David Cole as an example of this phenomenon.The fact that some Holocaust Revisionists were very happy to have a Jew on their side to mitigate criticism is clear, but it is just as clear that mass-media were more willing to air Holocaust Revisionism if a Jew was representing it. Because David Cole was a Jew, he was able to get more, and more sympathetic publicity, faster than non-Jews who had been working in the same field for decades.”
Imagine that, Jew-controlled mass media willing to air a fellow tribesman’s semi-revisionism as controlled opposition.
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Post by Agent_of_the_Avalanche » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:22 am

Will Williams wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:50 pm
I am unaware of any Alliance member who is non-White. Are you aware of any?
No.
Will Williams wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:50 pm
The more members we have across the country, the better we are able to have new applicants evaluated face-to-face by a trusted member in his region.
I don't even need to go that far. I can tell by the sound of their voice over the phone, I am such a racialist.
Will Williams wrote:
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Now, when we build to 1,000 members and begin forming Local Units again, the sufficient, dependable monthly revenue stream will elevate Alliance-building to a higher plateau. It's time.
What an easy number! Coming right up!

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Post by Will Williams » Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:54 am

Writer Douglas Mercer, who we just added to WB's Provenance section, and who monitors C-C's site, tipped me to an article there that refers to an article from old issue of National Vanguard print magazine. https://counter-currents.com/2023/02/ye ... nt-1800077 Go there for proper formatting.

So, I checked it out and saw an opportunity to comment to C-C readers and draw a few of the more curious ones to NV:

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Will Williams

March 3, 2023 at 8:19 pm
Good article, Beau. You began by crediting an old issue of National Alliance’s bulletin National Vanguard for debunking the “fake moon landing” crazies.

A slight correction: National Vanguard was our Alliance’s tabloid from 1978, replacing Attack! tabloid that was launched by Alliance founder William Pierce in 1970. National Vanguard print magazine replaced the tabloid of that name in 1982 and was published until a few years after Pierce’s death in 2002, replaced by the current National Vanguard online magazine: nationalvanguard.org. The National Alliance BULLETIN, otoh, which I write as NA’s current chairman and mail monthly to NA members, has been published continuously for 52 years, arguably the longest running publication in the racial nationalist cause.

The most noteworthy comment under your article is by John, who wrote:
… [W]e must reclaim our homelands, hold our traitors accountable, & repatriate ALL non-Europeans. Failure is not an option. Without total & complete separation in perpetuity we will not survive.


The National Alliance’s long-term, uncompromising objective is exactly that, John, and has been from the 1970s. Nonserious Whites say that is an unreasonable goal, but you obviously don’t see it as unreasonable. The plan: Building A New White World What is the National Alliance? | National Alliance (natall.com)

Dr. William L. Pierce was a bona fide rocket scientist, a tenured Physics professor at 30 who left academia to work designing rocket systems for NASA — then he met George Lincoln Rockwell, got serious, put his successful career behind him and went to work with Rockwell, working full time for the preservation of our race.

Those of us who were old enough on the day of the moon landing remember where we were; I was at my Special Forces B-Team in SE Asia that day watching it on a small black and white TV with some teammates. C-C readers may be interested in what Pierce had to say about it that day. Our National Office has Pierce’s handwritten personal journal in which the very first entry is this:

20 July, 1969 — 80th year since the birth of the Leader

TODAY Aryan man reached the moon. I found myself profoundly moved by the moon landing. Since the age of 12 (23 years ago) I have dreamed of this.

Space travel was, in fact, my first dream. Somewhere around the age of 20 it got sidetracked — although I had still entertained romantic notions along this line years longer.

My second dream, which began first to take form at the age of 30 [1963], is to help build a National Socialist world order. This will remain the goal of my life. I have considered starting a journal for some time. If my life’s work yields any result, then such a record will have great interest and value later…


More about that, here: William Pierce on Apollo: First Step on an Infinite Journey | National Vanguard included there is this short article that Pierce wrote the following month:



Moon Landing a Triumph of Aryan Genius
by Dr. William L. Pierce

JULY 20, 1969, will certainly go down in the history of our race as one of the most significant dates of all time. For the moon landing is the culmination of a centuries-old dream – a dream which has always been peculiarly Aryan.

Not only have all the great dreamers of space flight been men of our own race – men like Oberth, Goddard and von Braun – but so have the daring space adventurers themselves – the Gagarins, the Glenns and the Armstrongs.

The other races have lacked either the creative genius or the driving spirit of adventure or the lofty, non-materialistic outlook of the dreamer and innovator which have all been combined by Nature in Aryan man. This unique combination of qualities has been the indispensable human prerequisite for the great feat of July 20.

And the moon landing is more than the culmination of a dream. It opens a new era for our race. The Aryan has always been a creature with a driving need for something that other races seem to be able to get along without – the challenge of the unknown, of physical adventure, of new worlds to conquer. On the rapidly shrinking Earth, new frontiers for adventure and exploration have become scarce.

Now, however, we have opened the door to a vast unknown in which new frontiers without limit lie before us. Now the whole of the starry Universe awaits Aryan man’s eternal quest.
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Post by Will Williams » Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:15 am

Another comment here under the same article a few minutes later: https://counter-currents.com/2023/02/ye ... nt-1800078

Bob Roberts
March 2, 2023 at 12:43 pm
Does anyone think the Zambian Space Program was faked?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Ma ... ce_program


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Will Williams March 3, 2023 at 9:05 pm
Don’t go to humorless WikiJews for the answer to that, Bob. Go to astrophysicist David Sims, here, and enjoy a big laugh: Congoids and Spaceflight | National Vanguard

WB members may not realize that David Sims was a valued editor on staff at the NA's National Office in WV while Dr. Pierce was Chairman. He is a writer of the top rank, featured regularly at NV.
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Post by Jim Mathias » Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:30 am

Will, you mentioned in a post above the one you mentioned here about referring that a C-C commenter to National Vanguard's article on Congoids and Spaceflight for a laugh. Here's the link to copy and paste there at C-C if you so wish: https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/06/co ... aceflight/

The video, taken in the 1960s of these space monkeys, was amusing.
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