Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?

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Thomas S NJ
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Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?

Post by Thomas S NJ » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:33 pm

The following is a piece I have been motivated to write for some time now following a conversation had with my father (during which he expressed fear of religious violence in the event the Alliance should establish a "Pagan State religion"), which I would like to submit to the National Vanguard under my pen name, Art Thief. Since this piece makes commentary on Alliance policy and describes - what I believe to be - the official Alliance position on the question posed in the title, I wanted to put it here first for member review and especially get Will's approval before I submit it. My conversation with my father had me wondering if perhaps White Christian racialists might for some reason think we plan to hunt them down or some other such ludicrous idea.
Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?
by Arthur Thief
A White Christian with a mind to defending his race and seeking alliances and organizations in which to participate for that purpose, may find himself evaluating the National Alliance and concluding that not only is his contribution not welcome there, but he must need fear for his life and practice should the Alliance ever gain any sort of political power. The Alliance is certainly not a Christian organization, and many pieces within the National Vanguard express our disdain and even outright antipathy towards Christianity, such as this reprinted piece from Volkish, or this series by Revilo Oliver. Comments such as this by Wolf Stoner, who is an Alliance member who has written for the Vanguard, could certainly lend the impression that in some grand day when the Alliance has secured final victory for the White Race and has set up Cosmotheism as the State Church for a global pan-Aryan society that we will "purge" Christianity from the Earth.
A White Christian, doubtless full of lurid - and mostly false - tales of poor Christians being devoured by lions in the Colosseum just for refusing to worship the Emperor, may find himself imagining a day when furtive Christians, having stealthy worship services under cover of night only to have Alliance attack drones raining fiery death from above and destroying their shuttered churches and the helpless White families within, all so that we can raise a towering bronze Life Rune over the still-smoldering ashes. Or, perhaps he may fear only that we will establish Cosmotheism as the State Religion in much the same way as Christianity held Europe under the banner of a "Christendom" in which heretics and infidels were slaughtered and made war upon; he imagines that, having established our State Religion, we would round up "infidel" Christians and force them to conversion or public execution, or wage crusades against independent Christian states.
Such fantasies are not only silly, but given the history of Christianity - especially in Aryan Europe - a monumental exercise in projection. Indeed, even the idea of an Alliance-installed Cosmotheist State Religion having functions akin to the role of Christianity in medieval Europe is an entirely Christian idea. Given the recent rise of this concept of "Christian Nationalism", it is particularly hypocritical: it would seem we would have more to fear from Christians for whom racialism is a secondary concern at best passing around their "Deus Vult" memes than they ever should of us.
An apropos question to the Christian reader becomes: what precisely is it you fear? Is that fear based upon actual stated Alliance policy, or upon the behavior of your own side of the fence? Since Wolf Stoner's comment could conjure up images of a modern reversal of the Saxon Wars, it becomes necessary to clearly state and explain the Alliance's position towards the prospective Christian member.
First, as stated, we are not Christian. We are Cosmotheists. Our religion is outlined thoroughly on our website; the Christian reader might think the site incomplete, lacking as it is in long lists of dogmatic commandments, divine punishments and demands for the torturous executions of the "sinners", or claims regarding the exact nature of God or miracles "he" has performed. We are not withholding any secret commands on how precisely to execute infidels, promises of divine providence if we make war on them, or any other magical telegrams from God on how we should live our lives. This is not the nature of our religion. So where, outside of what his own bible may command of him to do of us, does the Christian imagine our "Pagan State Religion" might threaten them?
Second, as stated, we do indeed hold a certain disdain and even for some of us, personal hostility towards the Christian religion. To put it simply - as the purpose here is not to attack the Christian religion as such - we believe it to be a nearly complete fabrication in its claims of persons and events, philosophically and metaphysically alien, and in its present performance a threat to our race. While it certainly enjoyed a degree of Aryanisation during its high period in Europe, its universal evangelism still created the moral seeds for Racial suicide, even among those who eventually departed from it.
However, only one aspect of this might translate into any sort of action that might rise to the level of any sort of "purge": that it has become a threat to our race. For all the rest, we rely on time and truth (and the ability to freely reach and teach our Aryan kin), not fire and sword. Thus in the one way in which we might express actionable hostility to Christianity overall, this does not apply to those White Christians who are or seek to be champions of our race and of separation from racial aliens, who know and speak out against the enemies of our race, who - misguided or not - even today are members of various pro-White "movements" such as PatriotFront. Even toward those who simply stay out of our way, no reasonable interpretation of Alliance goals and policy or Cosmotheist doctrine could ever be taken to mean we would threaten death and destruction upon those millions of White Christian lemmings who would go along once we held real power.
So what might a future State, governed by Cosmotheists according to Alliance principles and goals look like and what might be its disposition towards White Christians.
To be sure, churches would lose their privileged tax status; but then, would anyone be exempt from contributing towards our race's needs, if we had reason to impose anything like a tax? Does not the White Christian racialist already tax himself in this vein when he risks life and liberty to protest Critical Race Theory at his local school board meeting? We might very well round up the Reverend Halberts of the world, or the lesbian Lutheran rainbow-wavers and see them to justice; yet what want-to-be "Crusader" with his Deus Vult memes and "Christian Nationalism" would not want the same? Yes, we would exclude from our territory Black Christians (or any other sort of Congoid for that matter), Hispanic Christians (and Atheists) and all manner of racial detritus from our territories; yet a White Christian could not very well claim to be a White racialist if he would not do the same, albeit with more goodwill to those so exiled.
This can be put quite simply that, while we in the Alliance find it odd how they can justify such alongside their universalist religion, White Christian racialists want what we want: a White future. We do not believe in your religion, we do not like your religion, and we would have a future governed by a religion of Nature as opposed to Semitic cults of absolute divine revelation. We very much desire to see the day when the last White Christian closes his bible and says, "You're right, it's not true". What we do not want is to make enemies of our own kin, especially not those who fight for our race.
Any such claim to our motives and goals must first put the cart before the horse and imagine a world in which the National Alliance has won real power, and then ludicrously imagine that having done so we would betray our loyalty to our racial kin.
Yes, Cosmotheism would become the official State religion in that distant future. The question from there is, "so what?" When one boils it down to its essentials, two things can be stated in response: first, that a religion of agnostic ecumenism is the officially-unofficial State Religion of the entire White Civilization today; second, it must be pointed out that Christianity had its turn in charge of our Race's destiny and the results were inevitably the transition to the very agnostic faith of our first answer. Lastly, official Alliance policy and publications from our found, Dr. William Pierce make it plain that we do not consider the sort of witch-hunt heretic extermination imagined by our Christian friends and family to be the way for an Aryan religion nor the rounding up of Aryan families for extinction to be desirable for a White racialist religion.
In closing, for the prospective Christian member, or for the White racialist of that religion who has come upon our publication, just how precisely do you imagine your life for better or worse should the goals of the National Alliance be realized?
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Re: Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?

Post by RCavallius » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:34 pm

There's a lot to respond to here. I can't get to it all, but I'll say this:

First, I would mention that your article needs to be copyedited, as it contains a number of errors. I'm sure the staff at NatVan would take care of that if they accepted it, but keep in mind that you should always mercilessly critique and edit your own work before submitting it, so as to make the editors' jobs easier.

Second, I ask you to consider exactly who your target audience is with this one and ask yourself if it is even worth reaching out to them. While you are probably correct that "Alliance attack drones" will never be "raining fiery death from above and destroying their shuttered churches and the helpless White families," for the vast majority of serious Christians, that's a moot point. Our position on Christianity itself and our practice of what they consider to be a "false religion" is enough to keep them from joining the Alliance. Practically all devout Christians put Christianity before everything, including race, so the points you made in your essay aren't going to win them over. They may not need to "fear" the Alliance in the sense described in your article, but our work is still 'of the devil' in their minds. They're better off joining a different organization, honestly, because very few of them would fit in among us. Further, I would say that since most Christians are lemmings, they don't fit the psychological bill of the types of people we want to recruit at this stage of the revolution. Remember, we're trying to build a leadership cadre, and few Christian men have what it takes intellectually, morally, or spiritually to help us get where we need to be.

As to the concluding question of your article, the fact of the matter is that a global Cosmotheist revolution would be a disaster for Christianity, as it would effectively put an end to it, even if not immediately. Most Christians, as stupid as they are, can probably understand this, so I'm not sure what the point of your article is.

Finally, you can always submit essays directly to Kevin Strom. You don't need the approval of the Chairman beforehand, as Kevin understands Alliance policy thoroughly and is authorized to make executive decisions about all National Vanguard content.


Please don't take this criticism as an affront. I'm just giving you honest feedback, since you asked for it here on our open forum. I hope you keep writing, as I would like to read some more of your stuff. Thanks, and good luck!
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Re: Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?

Post by Will Williams » Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:21 pm

Good reply, RC. Now that The September BULLETIN has been mailed, I'm editing another long essay by Wolf Stoner for NV. I'll try to get to this topic soon. Thomas and his dad deserve a thorough response to the worries they have raised.

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Re: Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?

Post by Jim Mathias » Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:38 pm

Not a bad start here, Thomas. I did have a couple of things I'd like to add to address what was written here.
1. About 2/3 of the way down, a mention of "Hispanic Christians" was made as though they were racial aliens. As I'm to understand it, Hispanics are those of White ancestry only, descendants of those Whites from the Iberian peninsula. Most of those from South America and North America considered "Hispanic" are misnamed and racially are mestizos, mulattos, and the various hybrids of White/Congoid/Mongoloid admixture. It's only an opinion, but to lump them all together as mestizos would simplify their identity for purposes of a short essay such as this one would want.
2. The topic is relevant to those Whites who identify themselves as Christians, though focusing on who fears who when it comes to Cosmotheist to Christian relations seems to be an emotional issue rather than a rational one. Fear is often a response to the unknown, if we Cosmotheists come to power, our messaging will be one of the tools of our success and therefore the most keen minds will understand what we're about. The rest wouldn't until they felt it in some way--which is the only way they'll learn. By then, the Christianity aspect will not be relevant. We will not have it taught in our schools, it will not be in our electronic media, our publishing arms will not be printing Christianity's message, our laws and their administration will not reflect those values, even our coinage will reflect our values. The point in being in "power" is to have our values, goals, and path be the only message in our area, and others will die out or be left available for academic discussion only as a relic of those "bad old days" we're experiencing now. The trash of these bad old days will be taken to the dump. If by chance some few leftovers decide that Magic Jesus is still going to be there for them at the end of their lives for eternal paradise and endless fun cavorting with their "god," let them entertain those delusions. Having exclusive access to our White children to impart Cosmotheism to is how our future will have to be and we'll suffer no competition in that area. It'll take a few generations, but it is totally necessary to do it this way or some way similarly.
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Re: Do White Christians need to fear the National Alliance?

Post by Thomas S NJ » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:42 pm

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I certainly take no offense at the criticism, as I rather specifically invited it. I apologize for the syntactic errors; it’s my original draft.
As for its nature it is indeed an emotional appeal, and my reasons for making it emotional as implied by my intro before the essay.
I did not intend it to seek out Alliance recruits in and of itself but rather to soften relations between us and a group with which I have some kinship – Christian racialists. While I find their arguments as wrong as the next, they – especially the ones in my family – somehow see no disconnect between their racial loyalty and piety.
I also believe that if we can ensure that this new phenomenon of “Christian Nationalists” can understand we are not threatening violence against them as such, it gives us a chance to reach more people further on. I don’t mean this in a big tent sort of way, but rather that having good relations with outside groups that at least tacitly agree with some of our ideals will at least avoid physical conflict further on. Ideally, over generations perhaps, our truth can win with words over their myths.
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