Kim: May 27, 2025
Regarding the history of National Alliance & National Vanguard –(I’m asking here, because I’m not able to chat in the comments of NV, for whatever reason, and I’m not blaming NV for this.)
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I suppose you’re asking Ondrej since your question is below his, but he knows less than you do about NA and NV history, so I’ll try to field your questions since I may better know the answers.
I’ve never been one to “chat” online — on the phone, yes, but not online, usually with some unknown curiosity-seeker, using an alias, no less. I prefer the forum format where one can own his words, especially when using his given name. When
National Vanguard was a print periodical back in the ’70s until Dr. Pierce died in 2002, as editor of NV he would occasionally, but not often, publish a letter to the editor from an NV subscriber and respond to the letter to answer a good question, or to clarify National Alliance policy for NV’s subscribers, many of whom were NA members entitled to NV subscriptions.
You can blame me for not having an interactive “chat” feature, Kim. NV, as NA’s primary outreach online — not just to educate our people and give them hope but ro recruit new Alliance members — I became disenchanted with unknown anonymous commenters feeling entitled to comment under NV essays and other content, often contradicting the content, spreading doubt and confusion or becoming argumentative. I could have closed comments altogether to solve the issue, but haven’t since some are productive, especially when from friends, NA members and supporters.
A primary reason I paid C-C to get behind its paywall a couple of years ago was to learn what it takes to set one up for NV commenters. Friends, NA members and supporters can participate/comment for free, all others should pay for the privilege, as long as they behave. Support NA at least minimally and you are entitled to comment. Setting up a paywall can be complicated and not easy to manage, requiring human oversight — so we still do not have a paywall at NV. I don’t have the time nor the wherewithal to manage a paywall, nor does NA’s Media Director, who maintains our websites, have the time (with three children under the age of four!), so an NV paywall will have to wait.
Still, I was pissed to recently learn that unknown anonymous commenters were once again being “auto-approved” after I, as NA Chairman, had clamped down on such nonsense. I must do what I think is best for the National Alliance, and I know damned well that Dr. Pierce would never have allowed such garbage to sully our primary online outreach for Alliance-building. Consistency of our message and the rule “
quality always over quantity” must take precedence if we are to attract the sort of serious human material Dr. Pierce strove to attract. Why confuse or spread doubt among our target audience or allow others to? Pierce never wanted to be the largest racial nationalist group, only the best!
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I believe Dr. Pierce selected Billy Roper to recruit for NA. He was, & is, an outgoing, charismatic salesman for White nationalism and the balkanization of White American families who place White racial identity & survival above all. In spite of all the mumblings I’ve overheard that Billy was (& is) totally unpredictable & egomaniacal, I believe National Vanguard could really benefit from a similarly-styled GenX or younger, open-minded⁺ high-profile extrovert for recruitment.
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Well, who am I to argue with what you believe, Miss Kim?
I met Roper online — Usenet, I believe it may have been, during the mid-90s. Since he was engaged in online activism with Creators from Klassen’s Church of the Creator in Arkansas, I thought he might be recruitable to the National Alliance — so we began corresponding. I had left NA’s WV National Office at the end of 1993 after two years as Dr. Pierce’s first National Membership Coordinator, then was appointed by him to be NAs first Regional Coordinator, for the Carolinas region. Pierce wasn’t aware of Roper until I started lobbying him that Billy might be a possible candidate for the position I’d vacated, Membership Coordinator. We NA activists “in the field” were in need of a liason in the National Office with Dr. Pierce on matters of activism, so I put Pierce in touch with Billy, along with my recommendation. Billy was then interviewed by Pierce and he hired him, not as MC but as Deputy MC. Billy was never elevated by Pierce to the position of MC.
Billy is mentioned here by Pierce in an interesting ADV broadcastabout a demonstration he helped to coordinate outside of the German Embassy in Washington D.C: “Multicultural Justice | National Vanguard”
…[M]y organization held a demonstration outside the German Embassy last July 29 to make a public issue of this lack of freedom in Germany. We did everything strictly according to the law. We obtained a permit for our demonstration from the government of the District of Columbia. We notified the police well in advance, so that they would be prepared to control traffic at the demonstration and maintain order. We showed up at the appointed time and began marching in an orderly fashion along the sidewalk outside the German Embassy with our signs.
Then a gang of 40 or so Jews and communists, many of them wearing masks and carrying weapons, arrived on the scene. Two of these, one a Jew and the other a Caribbean mulatto, attacked the National Alliance member, Billy Roper, who was coordinating the demonstration. In full view of the police and news cameramen, they struck Billy in the head with a tire iron and a heavy lug wrench, cutting a nasty gash above his right eye and breaking a bone in his eye socket. The police arrested the two attackers at the scene. The two were later identified in the newspaper of the Progressive Labor Party, a violent communist organization, as members of that group. The Progressive Labor Party newspaper praised the actions of its two members and urged more such attacks in order to prevent the National Alliance from holding further public demonstrations.
Despite our protests and all of the evidence presented to the prosecutor, the two communist thugs were charged only with simple assault, a misdemeanor, and they were released from custody on the same day they were arrested. Their trial came up in the Superior Court for the District of Columbia on the eighth of this month. The Assistant U.S. Attorney assigned to prosecute the case was a Negress from Nigeria. The two defense attorneys were Blacks. The judge was a Black. There was no jury, because the two communists asked to be tried by the Black judge only.
During the trial a videotape obtained from a news cameraman was played for the judge. It clearly showed one of the communists swinging a lug wrench at Billy Roper’s head, with the other communist kicking him from behind. We also had eyewitnesses who had been at the demonstration, we had Billy Roper’s medical records, we had photographs showing blood streaming down Billy’s face from his wound, and we had the Progressive Labor Party newspaper bragging about the assault and urging its members to commit more such assaults. The Black judge ignored the evidence and on January 9 acquitted both communists…
I could write a couple of chapters in a book that’s only about that one demonstration, the attack on our Alliance activists, including on Roper, by the Antifa-like non-White thugs, and the “trial” that followed, but won’t. Let him tell that complete story. Billy later told NA members at an Alliance Leadership Conference that I had saved his life when I grabbed the arm of the little nigger thug as he was taking another swing at Billy’s head with the tire iron/lug wrench. It had all been captured on videotape, ignored by the anti-White D.C. court.
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The relentless adherence to Cosmotheism will be the death of National Vanguard, in my not so humble opinion. I’ve previously informed Mr. Williams how Cosmotheism mysteriously causes me to literally start finding nature dislikable. (?!) More recently, Mr. Williams has suggested I re-read Dr. Pierce, and notice that everything WLP has ever said is seamlessly tied together by Cosmotheism. I refuse to do this, because I refuse to start hating Dr. Pierce, due to his personal spirituality. I don’t hold his theology, nor his choices in multiple wives, against him. These are very personal & private decisions.
Unfortunately, required adherence to Cosmotheism places religion > race.
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You are full of beans, Kim. I’ll just add that those who refuse to read a truth when it’s provided to them are worse off than those who cannot read. BTW, others can read about
Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future if and when it is reviewed on Counter-Currents, and decide for themselves its merit rather than from your uninformed, not so humble opinion, thanks. Though Pierce’s belief system is not for you, others who may be interested can learn all about it by putting the word ‘cosmotheism’ in the search block at nationalvanguard.org.
I won’t speak to the mumblings you’ve heard about Billy Roper being “maniacal and totally unpredictable.” That sounds to me like typical “movement’ rumors. If I had to give one word to describe Billy, who is, indeed, a very talented spokesman for the Cause, it would perhaps be “opportunist.” I can never explain why a man who you say had been such a “charismatic spokesman for the cause” including, ostensibly, for the National Alliance’s belief system — he had tried hard to convince NA’s board of directors to appoint him as Dr. Pierce’s replacement as NA Chairman. After losing his bid to become NA Chairman -- how could he then go on to be a spokesman for Thom Robb’s Arkansas-based Christian Ku Klux Klan — and that was after the short-lived big tent group he founded, White Revolution, had predictably bombed.
I’m sorry, but Opportunism is the appropriate word I can think of to explain Billy’s pretended belief in and promotion of Pierce’s decidedly unChristian, Nature-based Cosmotheism — then go on to apparently promote “belief” in Jesus, and the promise of an eternal heavenly paradise with Jesus’s daddy, Jehovah. When Mr. Robb retired and turned the Klan group he’d built over to his beloved, sincere daughter Rachel rather than to the man who you describe as “open-minded,” Roper went on to form another group called “the Shield Network,” or something like that, then presently to an Orania-like separatist community somewhere in the Ozarks. You can hope he is “charismatic” enough to pull that off.
