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Post by Will Williams » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:34 am

Uh oh! Something has caused me to go under moderation again. :o

Under the same article about the word "renege:"


Lord Snooty January 19, 2024
I was in a UK supermarket searching for peanuts in shells. They’re called “monkey nuts” over here. Seeing a store worker’s uniform, I went up to ask, “Do you have monkey nuts?” As he turned around, I saw he was black, so instead I mumbled, “What time do you close today?”


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I’ve never heard of nigger nuts. I’ll have to remember that one. Had you asked for nigger toes (Brazil nuts) everyone in the south knows what they are.

In the late 80s we still had record stores. There was a gangster rap group named Niggers with Attitudes that the Jews who controlled the popular music industry were pushing on White youth at the time.

I’ve never purchased records, but my girlfriend’s daughters dragged me into the record store to look for some record. After a while there I couldn’t contain myself and yelled over to the White clerk, “Where are your niggers with attitudes?”

The girls had been conditioned to be embarrassed by my brazenness, but the clerk knew exactly what I was asking and directed me to the albums marked “NWA”. One of those niggers’ early classic hits was “F__k da Police.” The nigger gangstas got their start with the Jew “music manager,” Jerry Eller, who represented many popular artists with a slew of Jew-owned record producers.

Record stores soon became defunct, but Hate Whitey “music” has evolved with Jew-owned MTV videos and the Internet. See: Black Rapper: “I F—k France, I Burn France”; Violates and Kills a White Woman in Music Video | National Vanguard
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Post by Will Williams » Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:13 pm

Hamburger Today January 19, 2024
...‘Ecumenical’ means the same as ‘universal’. It was co-opted by Christians, but it doesn’t belong to them. It’s possible to speak of an ‘ecumenical Whiteness’ as referring to all European people’s that exhibit White European attitudes if not all having the exact same features (Nordics vs Mediterraneans, for instance).

Edit: https://www.etymonline.com/word/ecumenical


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Wimpy’s* edit: https://www.etymonline.com/word/ecumenical

Thanks for clearing that up: ecumenical (adj.) – late 16c., “representing the entire (Christian) world,” formed in English as an ecclesiastical word…

*J. Wellington Wimpy – Wikipedia
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Post by Will Williams » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:26 pm

Jason Kessler, Esquire has decided to debate me on Counter-Currents.com. We'll see how that works out.

Here he's pictured with some of his clients who attended the "Unite the Right" fiasco that he organized in Charlottesville, VA, in August 2017/size]

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CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (WINA) – Jason Kessler has dropped his lawsuit against the city of Charlottesville, former police chief Al Thomas, and State Trooper Becky Crannis-Curl.
Kessler, Identity Evropa, the National Socialist Movement, and the Traditionalist Worker’s Party filed suit in November 2018, arguing that the city had violated their freedom of speech by not providing a safe venue for the August 12, 2017, Unite the Right rally.
A notice of dismissal was filed in Charlottesville federal court on Thursday, February 28 [2019].


Will W Williams: January 20, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Jason Kessler: January 19, 2024
“but why are teachings of those Abrahamic creeds necessary to fulfill Aryan traditions?”

Jason, not to nitpick but you quoted just the second half of my sentence without making use of an ellipsis (…). A grammarian would say that is misleading. The rule:

If an ellipsis is placed at the beginning or in the middle of a sentence, it means something has been removed…

To put my question back in context:

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Mr. Kessler says: [R]religious skeptics should not abandon the traditional values of having big families, taking responsibility, following ethics, working hard, and building communities to the teachings of Muslims, Jews, and Christians…


To which I responded:

The highlighted portion of your statement is certainly desirable, but why are teachings of those Abrahamic creeds necessary to fulfill Aryan traditions?

You continue, by explaining why Aryan traditions should look to the Semitic or Abrahamic creeds (Judaism, Christianity and Islam, all that worship the Jew’s imaginary tribal deity, BTW), basically by changing the subject to atheist and agnostic fecundity, compared to those who worship Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah.

Maybe spook worshippers are more fecund. The globalist World Health Organization (WHO) tells us “…[A] family size range of five to seven or eight children in Africa.” Maybe that’s because Black Africans worship Yahweh? Doubtful. They’ve been known to eat Christian missionaries.

Just above what you misquoted by me I provided the classic quote by Dr. Pierce, who was not pagan, agnostic nor atheist; his pro-White, eugenic world view, ideology, philosophy — or religion, if you prefer — encouraged the best of our race to have plenty of children. It’s safe to say Pierce, who founded Cosmotheism, was a “skeptic” of Abrahamic creeds.

Just a couple of months ago the theme of our weekly radio show, American Dissident Voices, was “Commit a revolutionary act. Have a White child”: Becoming Revolutionary | National Vanguard

You continued:


We should differentiate between modern religious skeptics and pre-Christian Europeans who were pagan. Most pagan religions would have also supported having abundant children (fertility goddesses anyone?).

On the other hand, atheists and agnostics tend to have less children than their Abrahamic religious counterparts. This may be a value that is not sufficiently esteemed in that cohort.
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Post by Jim Mathias » Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:20 am

Your comment in response to Mr. Kessler seems reasonable to me, Will. The placing of your comment under moderation appears to be made with some sort of eye towards protecting a Christian slant. Why they would protect this Semitic worldview and react harshly towards our pro-Aryan life-philosophy is beyond me.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:15 pm

Jim Mathias wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:20 am
Your comment in response to Mr. Kessler seems reasonable to me, Will. The placing of your comment under moderation appears to be made with some sort of eye towards protecting a Christian slant. Why they would protect this Semitic worldview and react harshly towards our pro-Aryan life-philosophy is beyond me.
I'm taken off moderation, so the comments stand.

Here's my latest to educate those there about Jew control of the music industry:


Will Williams: January 21, 2024
Bigfoot: January 20, 2024 What is strange about that is the fact that the FBI criticized the group NWA for the song F**k the Police. The FBI put out a press release warning law enforcement agencies of potential problems that song could cause. Now the situation is completely different. The FBI is used to ensure ideological conformity…


Exactly, Bigfoot, but it’s not as strange as one would think without the Jew factor.

I like to remind young American Whites that William Pierce was calling out Jewish control of the anti-White popular music industry 50 years ago, and here 25 years ago: Lew, Bill, Tupac, and Mitchell | National Vanguard

…Bill Clinton said in a speech to graduating seniors at Portland State University in Oregon on June 13 [1998]. The Fastest Zipper in the West told his audience — and that included television viewers all over America — that we must not do anything to slow the flow of immigrants from the Third World into the United States. He denounced as “wrongheaded” those White Americans who fear that “the America they know and love is becoming a foreign land.” [T]he same day he gave that speech at Portland State. He went to the high school in Springfield, Oregon, where one of the recent school killing sprees took place, and he spoke piously to the survivors about how he “felt their pain” and about his determination to bring an end to the epidemic of school violence which has been plaguing the country. He put on a show of real concern for the 2 students who had been killed and the 22 who had been wounded at Springfield’s Thurston High School. He bemoaned the “culture of violence” which incites young students to kill… Then Clinton hopped onto Air Force One and flew to Los Angeles, where he was the guest of honor at a lavish party in the mansion of Hollywood record mogul Lew Wasserman. All of the other big Hollywood Jewish media bosses were there too. The purpose of the party was to raise donations for the Democratic Party, and the Clintonistas were expecting close to a million dollars in donations from Wasserman and the other media bosses at the party… Lew Wasserman, Mr. Clinton’s host, is the chairman emeritus of MCA, the giant record company which is the world’s principal promoter and distributor of the musical genre known as “gangsta’ rap.” For those of you who don’t already know this, gangsta’ rap has lyrics glorifying the lifestyle of Black gangsters and drug bosses. It glorifies street shootings and other aspects of Black criminality. Its rap lyrics are very graphic about murder and rape, which it promotes as being very “cool” and fashionable. Gangsta’ rap has been pushed hard by Wasserman and other big media Jews in an effort to get White kids hooked on Black culture and Black lifestyles. It fits right in with Mr. Clinton’s efforts to eliminate White racism by getting Whites to accept Blacks and other aspects of “diversity.” To be more specific, Lew Wasserman’s MCA owns Interscope Records and a number of other record labels. One of Interscope’s featured performers, until he was himself killed in a drive-by shooting in Las Vegas last year, was the Black gangsta’ rapper Tupac Shakur…Was Bill Clinton unaware that Lew Wasserman’s company produced and distributed Tupac Shakur’s music about “coming to school and killing all the kids”?

Of course he was. And his Famous But Incompetent goons knew that Tupac’s parents were members of the anti-White Black Panther Party, and that early in his “music” career, prior to his murder, he was managed by anti-White demi-Jew “poet,” Leila Steinberg.

What Would Hitler Do? For one thing there would be no Lew Wasserman or his co-religionists Judaizing and nigrifying Germany’s popular culture, and he’d see that a turd like Bill Clinton and the corrupted top police agency were given over to a night of long knives.

Bill, Lew and Tupac aside for the moment. Clinton’s feckless FBI could have done more than complain about subversive Niggers With Attitudes’ “F__k Da Police” but they didn’t, and 30 years later it’s clear that those lyrics preceded the Marxist “Defund the Police” movement. Now Biden’s Jew-run DOJ and its FBI work closely with Jew-controlled social media — the thought police — to censor dissident Whites. Our cry today must be “Defund the Thought Police!”

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This comment is long, but educational for those who are not up to speed on the JQ. Hit the links for more.

Four years ago the indomitable John Q. Publius updated Jew control of America’s music industry, here: Ways of Seeing: Who Determines Your Reality? – The Occidental Observer

There has been some “changing of the Jew” since then, of course, but at this point it’s always Jews replacing Jews.

…The music industry is, as with all forms of media, dominated by Jews, and its control has become increasingly centralized, another trend we’ve seen irrespective of the industry in question. In December 1998, with the PolyGram-Universal merger, the music industry’s Big Six became its Big Five, in control of 77.4% of a market estimated to be between $30 and $40 billion; 2004 saw another merger, this time of Sony and BMG (Sony would later buy out BMG), to create a Big Four. Coupled with the shrinking of independent labels, the Big Four were in control of a whopping 88% of the market by 2011. In December 2011, EMI was absorbed by the Universal Music Group and Sony Music Entertainment, though in Europe regulators forced Universal Music to sell off its EMI assets which became the Parlophone Label Group, and was then promptly acquired by the third member of the Big Three, Warner Music Group. In 2012, the Big Three represented 88.6% of the market. Sony Entertainment, the sixth-largest entertainment company in the world, owns Sony Music Entertainment, and Vivendi, number seven, owns Universal Music Group.

A snapshot of the leadership of the Big Three proves illustrative; this overview from December 2019 reveals an obscene overrepresentation of Jews including Michael Lynton, Chairman of the Board for the Warner Music Group and its Vice Chairman, Len Blavatnik; of the nine other members of the Board, Noreena Hertz, Ynon Kreiz, Thomas H. Lee, and Alex Blavatnik (Len’s brother) are Jewish. Mathias Dopfner is a Gentile, but is also a self-described “non-Jewish Zionist.” The rest, such as Stephen F. Cooper—also the CEO, replacing the Jewish Edgar Bronfman, Jr.—are either contested or I could not definitively find out. Co-Chair and CEO of Warner Records, Aaron Bay-Schuck, has Jewish ancestry, and other prominent Jews in management include Eric Levin, Warner Music Group CFO and Executive Vice President, and Co-Chair and COO of subsidiary Atlantic Records Group Julie Greenwald and its Co-Chair and CEO Craig Kallman. Universal Music Group Chairman and CEO Lucian Grainge is Jewish, as are: Chairman and CEO of the Universal Music Publishing Group’s global publishing division, Jody Gerson; Chairman and CEO of Universal Music UK and Ireland, David Joseph; and Executive Vice President of Marketing Andrew Kronfeld. Sony Music CEO Rob Stringer is Jewish, as is its COO Kevin Kelleher, Executive Vice President and General Counsel Julie Swidler, and President of Global Digital Business and US Sales Dennis Kooker. In other words, all three major record labels are headed by Jews and their corporate governance is dominated by Jews as well. The rest, like RCA Records CEO Peter Edge, are “well-liked Gentiles.”
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:29 pm

Here's a response from a top C-C commentator who apparently attended my alma mater, NCSU.

Will Williams: January 19, 2024
Ask for the vinegro to be halfway safe [rather than vinegar].

I remember the word renege was used when Coach Dean Smith of the NC Tarheel bastardball team would send in his second-string team.


ncleapyear: January 20, 2024
That joke about the UNC basketball team was making the rounds when I was in college in Raleigh back in the 80s. Funny thing is, it wasn’t even considered that offensive. How things change.

One of my aunts used to make sure to have a bowl of mixed nuts out at Christmas just so she could pick up a Brazil nut and ask us kids if we knew what it was. We did, of course, but we waited for her to tell us, and then the whole room would erupt in laughter.
Will Williams: January 21, 2024
ncleapyear: January 20, 2024
Funny thing is, it wasn’t even considered that offensive. How things change.



Nothing’s changed, nc. Dean Smith’s “renigging” at UNC’s Carmichael Auditorium in the 70s was funny because the term fit. It was an even better fit after the Dean Dome replaced Carmichael in the ’80s

I take it you attended NCSU. So did I, except in the early 70s.

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[Your aunt] could pick up a Brazil nut and ask us kids if we knew what it was. We did, of course, but we waited for her to tell us, and then the whole room would erupt in laughter.


Again, it was funny because a Brazil nut did resemble a nigger’s toe. Your aunt was cool. My aunts were like her. My mother never said “nigger,” it was always “nigruh.” Try that today and you’ll get the same look from Blacks (and some Whites) as if you’ve let slip niggardly or renege.

Zoomers and Xoomers can’t even imagine what the U.S. was like before JOG forced the integration of Whites with Blacks. It’s up to us Boomers to tell them like it was and how it can be again through strict geographical racial separation, not failed segregation or apartheid. To acknowledge biological differences — to discriminate — was hygienic, not evil.

Writer Douglas Mercer recounts an experience in “a better time” for our race, the mid-1960’s, that illustrates this: California “Anti-Racism” | National Vanguard

NATIONAL ALLIANCE Chairman Will Williams likes to tell the anecdote from back in 1966 when he was in a high school class and charged with doing a report on an alien race. Will picked the Pygmy, and when he got up in front of his class he said:

“The Pygmy.”

Here he held out his hand about hip high.

“The Pygmy is a little nigger about this tall.”

(a suitable silence)

“The Pygmy.”

And then he sat down. That was the entire report.

Will tells us he did all this stone-faced, and soon waves of laughter swept across the room including from the White teacher.

That was a better time…

Some deracinated kid who answers to Denny commented under Mr. Mercer’s essay: I grew up in California, and can guarantee that even back in 1966, a schoolkid doing what Will claims to have done is *highly* unlikely.

Denny makes my point. While the teacher and all the other students in our all-White class were laughing out loud at my spontaneous oral report, he would have been hissing and booing and stomping his feet.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:01 pm

Lord Sang, another frequent commentator at C-C, apparently went to the NV link I'd put there to read about my oral report about the Pygmy (a little nigger about yea high) and like Denny, doubted it had happened.

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Lord Shang: January 21, 2024 Sorry, I don’t agree with your description of “Denny” as necessarily deracinated. I grew up in urban CA in the 60s, HS in the mid/late 70s, a good decade past “civil rights”.
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I defer to you, sir, for the characterization of your own experience in urban California — now a sanctuary state — after the snivil rights cause had already taken root.

My impression of San Fransissyco, where I spent a few days in early 1968 while on my way to my first tour in Vietnam, was surprising — not as culturally shocking as was my experience had been, living in close proximity among Blacks in Basic Training, but I got an up-close look at how the so-called counterculture had deracinated a once beautiful city. My curiosity took me to the “hippy” district of Haight-Ashury. There, I witnessed what America would become; deracinated. (there’s that word again). My hair had grown out enough while on leave and I didn’t wear my Green Beret while there among the anti-war activists, so could commingle among the freaks, queers and race-mixers without drawing much attention.
deracinate: verb – de·​rac·​i·​nate – dē-ˈra-sə-ˌnāt 1: UPROOT
2: to remove or separate from a native environment or culture especially: to remove the racial or ethnic characteristics or influences from
That’s a good word that should be used often by White race-thinkers.

I’m hard pressed to believe you could have given that presentation in Greater LA or the Bay Area in 1966. Perhaps you were in a rural, or else still very white (sic) and conservative, part of the state? Orange County back then was still very white (sic) and Right, as was CA north of the Bay Area.
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You’re absolutely correct. I would not have given my oral report on the Pygmy where you grew up. I would probably have dropped out of high school, if there.

Raleigh, NC, where I grew up was still racially segregated — not rural, being the capitol of NC, with a little over 50,000 people. Now it is a picture of urban sprawl with more than 500,000 and “progressive,” i.e., deracinated., like Atlanta. I described it earlier this month to my 76-year-old high school classmates, here: Chairman Williams: A Rational Pro-White Message | National Vanguard
” RTP is the acronym for Research Triangle Park that WikiJews describe as:

...the largest research park in the United States, occupying 7,000 acres in North Carolina and hosting more than 300 companies and 65,000 workers…. North Carolina’s Research Triangle region is named for the facility, which sits within the geographic triangle formed by three nearby research universities: North Carolina State University, Duke University, and University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. The park is bounded by the cities of Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill.

Those three cities are located in Wake, Durham, and Orange ‘sanctuary counties’ respectively. RTP has been good for North Carolina’s Piedmont region economically, but has been a racial demographic disaster.”
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:34 pm

No sooner do I come off moderation than I go back on. Plus i'm restricted from putting up links, so I have to be more clever to get around this.

Will Williams: January 23, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

David M. Zsutty: January 23, 2024 “I may disagree with every word you say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it” is just a cutesy slogan for conservacucks which they only apply to Leftists who hate them…
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Isn’t that quote usually attributed to Voltaire, hardly a conservacuck? In fact the quote is associated with Voltarian liberalism, as I found used here: muse.jhu.edu/ pub/8/article/241751

Jean-Pons-Guillaume Viennet (1777–1868) is one of those public figures who traversed the nineteenth-century literary and political worlds, observed it all from up close, knew everyone, but left no trace in posterity. Viennet, a Voltairian liberal, pursued three careers: as a (respectable) officer, an (inconsequential) centre-left deputy, and a (mediocre) author who tried his hand at every genre, from poetry to tragedy, melodrama to fables…

And
Voltaire was the pseudonym for François-Marie Arouet, an eighteenth-century French man of letters who personified and popularized the intellectually liberal climate of the Enlightenment

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Reading the various comments under this article, I find it incredible that any White preservationists still take seriously young Mr. Fuentes and his Groypers.
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Post by Jim Mathias » Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:05 am

Will Williams wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:34 pm
No sooner do I come off moderation than I go back on. Plus i'm restricted from putting up links, so I have to be more clever to get around this.

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Reading the various comments under this article, I find it incredible that any White preservationists still take seriously young Mr. Fuentes and his Groypers.
Your links to Alliance published works appear to be some sort of threat or competition to the moderators over there at C-C, Will. It may be that we in the National Alliance are seen by them as boat-rockers compared to their "conservative" and "respectable" views. I don't really believe they want any real solutions to our problems, just remaining in that rut of making tired old complaints leading to nowhere.

As for those taking "Groypers" and Nick Fuentes seriously, are thoughtful and sincere Whites really among them? No, that small group of Whites with discriminating tastes can see through these attention seekers looking to build an empire with foundations made of sand and men who desire to jump on (and off once the party is over) bandwagons.

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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:51 am

Jim Mathias wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:05 am
Will Williams wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:34 pm
No sooner do I come off moderation than I go back on. Plus i'm restricted from putting up links, so I have to be more clever to get around this.

<snip>

Reading the various comments under this article, I find it incredible that any White preservationists still take seriously young Mr. Fuentes and his Groypers.
Your links to Alliance published works appear to be some sort of threat or competition to the moderators over there at C-C, Will. It may be that we in the National Alliance are seen by them as boat-rockers compared to their "conservative" and "respectable" views. I don't really believe they want any real solutions to our problems, just remaining in that rut of making tired old complaints leading to nowhere.

As for those taking "Groypers" and Nick Fuentes seriously, are thoughtful and sincere Whites really among them? No, that small group of Whites with discriminating tastes can see through these attention seekers looking to build an empire with foundations made of sand and men who desire to jump on (and off once the party is over) bandwagons.

Just as you're doing, I believe and practice mentioning Natall dot com, Natvan dotcom, Whitebiocentrism dot com in conjunction with a particular point related to the topic at hand, eventually the discriminating few will see what we're doing. Even if it has to be interjected using coded language.
Agreed on both counts, Jim. We are boat rockers, when the boat is full of "cuckservatives" or whatever else they call themselves.

Will W Williams: January 24, 2024 at 7:29 am Your comment is awaiting moderation.
David M. Zsutty: January 24, 2024 Voltaire may have first said it but its a common refrain in any debate about free speech, even if few people actually live up to it.
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I see. Thanks. I didn’t know that, David. But, then, I don’t follow cutesy conservacucks. so how would I have known? The problem with free speech is that there is too much of it, most of which is opposed to strict White separation/preservation.

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Scott: January 23, 2024 I personally can’t stand Fuentes and Anglin, and cannot see how they or an appeal to Christian Zoomer Inceldom helps with White Nationalism in any way.
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Thank you for that, Scott. I’d “like” what you say but my “like” button appears to have been disabled.

Inceldom? That’s a new one on me. But if Inceldom is connected somehow to feckless Christian Zoomers and Groypers, and if Fuentes and Anglin are trying to appeal to Inceldom, you are right: it’s another losing strategy for White racial nationalism.
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