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Post by Douglas Mercer » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:07 pm

https://archive.org/details/the-case-of ... 5/mode/2up
Edward VIII was pro Hitler and his removal was the first step to eliminate those in Britain who were against the entry into the War against Germany. The word they use for these people is "defeatist" but that is a slander--they were really clear eyed.

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Post by Will Williams » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:09 pm

Mr Perez comments on more from Hamburger Today that cannot help the Keith Woods crowd very much if they look closely at his arguments against National Socialism: https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/na ... socialism/
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Will Williams: March 11, 2025
E_Perez: March 9, 2025 This comment only makes sense when you know what is “Hamburg today’: a failed city overrun by third worlders (isn’t ex-chancellor Scholz a “Hamburger today’?).

“German National Socialism … has at least one glaring problem: It failed.”

Oh no, German National Socialism was the most successful political/economical system between the wars and that is precisely why is was brutally destroyed. It did not ‘fail’ contrary to Roosevelt’s New Deal and Stalin’s communism.

Success or failure of a political system cannot be judged by the outcome of war waged on it by its opponents, but by its achievements when it is left on its own.
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Very good, Mr. Perez. except you assume that Hamburger Today has anything to do with the real holocaust that happened to Hamburg Germany since it was practically wiped off the map by Allied bombing in WWII. See: Burning Hell: Bombing Holocaust of Hamburg by British Air Force (1943) | National Vanguard

IN THIS ferocious aerial attack, some 3,000 British and American aircraft dropped 9,000 tons of bombs, killing 42,600 civilians and wounding 37,000. Many were burned to death or killed by poisonous carbon monoxide gas. Only about half the dead bodies could be identified. This “firestorm” bombing — the first ever — incinerated eight square miles of the city with flames of up to 800 degrees Celsius fanned by winds of 150 mph. More than 250,000 homes and houses were destroyed, as well as 24 hospitals, 277 schools and 58 churches.


Hamburger Today speaks against National Socialism and for the “WN” social media herd that follows Keith Woods. The reference of Hamburger Today is to the character in old Popeye the Sailorman cartoons: “I’ll gladly repay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.”
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:28 pm

Thanks to Douglas Mercer for sending me the link to archive.com about Tyler Kent. https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/na ... socialism/ This comment gives me the chance to recommend to C-Cers the outstanding new book we carry, The Myth of German Vallainy.

Will Williams: March 12, 2025
If it comes from WikiJews, it must be true, eh?

Let’s All Drink To The Death Of A Clown: March 11, 2025 Lol are you actually copy and pasting from Wikipedia because it’s such an objective source when it comes to NS Germany???

You had mentioned this in an earlier comment today:

I’m sure you are familiar with, “The Case of Tyler Kent” by John Howland Snow. Kent was a high ranking American embassy official under Ambassador Kennedy and he was passing secret communiques between FDR and Churchill to the anti-Bolshevik faction in Britain, chiefly Lord Archibald Ramsay. These communiques proved that FDR’s administration was doing everything possible to get America into the war despite his campaign promises of keeping America out of the war.
I wasnt aware of Mr. Kent, but a friend has since sent me this from archive.com: The Case of Tyler Kent : John Howland Snow : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Snow’s 1946 book is “The story of a pass code clerk who intercepted messages from Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill while he was out of government plotting to engineer the US into war. It explains the role Ambassador Joe Kennedy took in this event.”

The best book I’ve read lately about how Jews, working with Roosevelt and Churchill, to get America in the war against Hitler and Germany is: The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L Bradbury – Cosmotheism

The foreword to this edition was written by Thomas Goodrich, the author of Scalp Dance, Hellstorm and Summer 45

As the title The Myth of German Villainy indicates, this book is about the mischaracterization of Germany as history’s ultimate “villain.” The “official” story of Western Civilization in the twentieth century casts Germany as the disturber of the peace in Europe, and the cause of both World War I and World War II, though the facts don’t bear that out.

During both wars, fantastic atrocity stories were invented by Allied propaganda to create hatred of the German people for the purpose of bringing public opinion around to support the wars. The “Holocaust” propaganda which emerged after World War II further solidified this image of Germany as history’s ultimate villain. But how true is this “official” story? Was Germany really history’s ultimate villain?

In this book, the author paints a different picture. He explains that Germany was not the perpetrator of World War I nor World War II, but instead, was the victim of Allied aggression in both wars. The instability wrought by World War I made the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in Russia possible, which brought world Communism into existence. Hitler and Germany recognized world Communism, with its base in the Soviet Union, as an existential threat to Western, Christian Civilization, and he dedicated himself and Germany to a death struggle against it.

Far from being the disturber of European peace, Germany served as a bulwark which prevented Communist revolution from sweeping over Europe. The pity was that the United States and Britain did not see Communist Russia in the same light, ultimately with disastrous consequences for Western Civilization. The author believes that Britain and the United States joined the wrong side in the war.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:13 pm

Keith Woods has a lot of supporters on social media and a good number of them support his criticism of National Socialism on Counter-Currents with favor of what our Kevin Strom called Woods' more popular "generic 'ethnonationalism'”: https://nationalvanguard.org/2025/03/na ... socialism/ Our Wolf Stoner reinforces Kevin's sound National Alliance position to never compromise with perceived popular opinion.



Will Williams: March 12, 2025
Beautifully stated, Wolf. Never compromise with the establishment on fundamental truths and values.
Wolf Stoner: March 11, 2025 … The enemy understands that not all people would accept the state-anointed holy lies. There will be someone who wants to know better. For this small auditory the system needs to plant people of “the same views”. They must pretend to share the basic truths [ie. nationalism of Mr. Woods and friends] but would push their own agenda on some seemingly minor issues. For example: “why do you need Hitler? Wouldn’t it be better to drop this dirty baggage and engage in politics with clean hands?” It could seem a good idea for many; especially for those who imagine themselves to be “rational” and “practical” (deal-maker Trump syndrome). But it is only the first step. After you accept it, there will be other steps: accepting “migrants useful for economy”, “support our greatest ally in the Middle East”, an Indian wife (why not?) and so on. There is no end of this process; the end point is the total destruction of your honor and identity. It is why such plants in the movement are so valuable for the system. They are more effective than open slanderers like Ian Kershaw or Allan Bullock. It is why we must be always alert to this kind of danger. No compromises with those who want to undermine our core values and firmaments.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:57 pm

Many theories on who coined the word "Nazi." Who cares? It and "neo-Nazi" are smear terms today, used by many -- usually by folks who cannot form and pronounce the words National Socialist: https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/an ... t-mindset/



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Scott: March 11, 2025 My source is the Goebbels Diaries in the original German. He uses phrases like “wir Nazis” (we Nazis) often, and “he is no real Nazi,” whilst complaining about a colleague, etc. The term “Nazi” is certainly informal, and I don’t have an example of Hitler ever using the term, but I suspect that he did so informally.
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Keep looking, Scott, and let us know when you find an example of Hitler using the term “Nazi.”

90 or so years ago Nazi may have been acceptable in Mr. Goebbels’ diaries, but not so much by serious National Socialists today — maybe when our opponents and controlled media regularly use the term “Commi” or “neo-Commi.” Found this interesting piece:
ADOLF Hitler did not like being called a Nazi.
Nazi was a derogatory term for a backwards peasant, being a shortened version of Ignatius, a common name in Bavaria, the area from which the Nazis emerged.

Opponents seized on this and shortened the party’s title to the dismissive Nazi.

The term Nazi derives from the first two syllables of the name given in German to a party member – Nationalsozialist - and was coined in response to the German term Sozi, an abbreviation of Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (Social Democratic Party of Germany). 

Members of the party referred to themselves as Nationalsozialisten (National Socialists), rarely as Nazis.

The term was in use before the rise of the party as a colloquial and derogatory word for a backward peasant, characterising an awkward and clumsy person.

Mark Harrison, consulting for the UK cabinet’s office’s common technology services unit, said that within Germany at the time, the word Nazi was a homonym for “Naczi” which was an insulting term for a “foolish clumsy person”.

The term was not used by the Nazis to describe themselves.

Since the late 1930s, however, the term Nazi has come to symbolise what that party became, rather than having connotations of “national” or for that matter “socialist”.In 1933, when Hitler assumed power of the German government, usage of the designation Nazi diminished in Germany, although Austrian anti-Nazis continued to use the term derogatorily. 

Under the leadership of Hitler the National Socialist German Workers’ Party developed into a mass movement and ruled Germany through totalitarian means from 1933 to 1945.

Founded in 1919 as the German Workers’ Party, the group promoted German pride and anti-Semitism.

Hitler joined the party the year it was founded and became its leader in 1921.

In 1933, he became chancellor of Germany.

After Germany’s defeat in the Second World War the party was outlawed.

An older use of Nazi for national social is attested in German from 1903.

The NSDAP for a time attempted to adopt the Nazi term, but gave this up and the NSDAP is said to have generally avoided the term.

According to Mark Forsyth writing in The Etymologicon, opponents quickly shortened the term to Nazi, which had been a term of abuse for years.

“Hitler wouldn’t have called himself a Nazi,” Forsyth said

“Nazi is, and always has been, an insult.”

Just as other countries had shortened terms of abuse, or at least ridicule, the term for Bavarians was Nazi.

At first Hitler and his team, regarded as hicks, did not like the Nazi term.

Then they tried to turn it to their advantage, with only limited success.

When they gained power they dealt with anybody who called Hitler a Nazi.

The NSDAP briefly adopted the Nazi designation, attempting to reappropriate the term, but soon gave up this effort and generally avoided it while in power… 
More here: Hitler was no fan of being called a ‘Nazi’ | The Courier Mail
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:20 am

Important question about how to deal with someone who brings up Hitler or the "Holocaust" story: https://counter-currents.com/2025/03/na ... socialism/ Sometimes, as a confident truth-teller, ridicule is more effective than being defensive -- especially if you have an audience.


Will Williams: March 12, 2025
Greg Johnson: March 12, 2025 Honestly, if you don’t bring Hitler up, and other people don’t either, why would you mention him?
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Smart point! But if someone wants to bring up Hitler like that, it’s usually out of ignorance about the man. I might refer to that person to Dr. Pierce’s The Measure of Greatness | National Vanguard A Cosmotheist view of history’s most vilified man That will give the normie something to consider and that he can check out further.


Honestly, I have talked to hundreds of normies about our issues over the last 25 years (at least one a month), and I can only recall one time when someone actually said, “But what about the Holocaust?”


Honestly, I’m curious. What was your reply to that one person?

I recall one girl who brought up the issue — not I — asking, “But what about the Holocaust?” My response was, “You don’t still believe in that bullshit, do you?” She picked up her cigarettes and beer and walked away. She was not worth wasting my breath on, or pointing her to truth.

If someone, who appears to have sense, asks me about the Jews’ “holocaust” story and doesn’t want to invest $110 in the definitive book on the subject, I will point him to National Vanguard where several chapters of Germar Rufolf’s book are republished, to set him on the path of discovery of truths: Holocaust Insights 1: Absurd Tales | National Vanguard

YOU HAVE never before seen a resource like the new Holocaust Encyclopedia by Germar Rudolf, a massive volume (634 pages) that demolishes once and for all the myths, misunderstandings, exaggerations, and outright fabrications that surround the “Holocaust” story… Alleged victims, bystanders, and perpetrators have made a seemingly endless list of silly, bizarre, nonsensical, and outrageous assertions about their purported abuse, as part of the orthodox Holocaust narrative: Holocaust Encyclopedia – Full Color Hardback produce by Germar Rudolf – Cosmotheism
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