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[Will Williams]

It's difficult for me to believe that a site like C-C that's supposedly race-preservationist, tolerates counterproductive commentary from idiots. It like having one foot on the accelerator and the other pressing on the brake: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/


Will Williams: December 22, 2024

Angelo Plume: December 22, 2024 Nick called for people who disagreed with him or didn’t donate to him to be shot.
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Thanks for that, Angelo. Forget Nick [Fuentes], the upstart loser, and his supporters. JR talks out of his ass and deserves ostracism by serious Whites.

I’ll speak for the National Alliance and can speak for those JR calls the “Old Guard,” including Metzger and Duke, despite their personal differences back in the 1980s, because I’ve known and interacted with them.

I can speak honestly about Harold Covington — no gossip, no slander, just much-needed facts and truth.

[Will Williams]

It's an encouraging sign to see C-C not only seriously discussing race and religion together, but questioning the suitability of Jew-spawned Christianity as the belief system for people of our race: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/co ... dcast-617/ Cosmotheism is the alternative!


Will Williams: December 22, 2024

John: December 22, 2024 We need to talk about this: The First Law Of Nature is self-preservation… Therefore, why isn’t Christianity synonymous with our survival?
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White Christians worshipping their racial enemy’s mythical spook up in the sky, Jehovah/Yahweh, is not just stupid, its anti-Nature, requiring escapist superstition and gullibility — anti-survival.

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[E]ven atheists primary want is their survival & the survival of their offspring, must be synonymous with the survival of our race.

OROR [Or Race, Our Religion]…. must be included in whatever belief system we live by.
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Yes, an absolute necessity! Atheists believe in nothing, especially other fellows’ spooks. That’s a start. We race-realists must leave the door open for them to become more intelligent, more racially focused.

[Will Williams]

Bumping my own comment on topic: https://counter-currents.com/2024/11/ho ... ity-quota/
As more NA members report to me what they have learned by watching The Order in their local movie theaters, more comes out about the extent anti-White Hollywood is willing to lie.

Will Williams: December 22, 2024
Bump with update:

Will Williams: December 14, 2024 … Allegedly “based on a true story,” but adapted to conform to The Academy’s PC requirement for more cast members of different races, Jude Law’s [fictional] assistant FBI Agent character checks a couple of requisite boxes as she is played by half Jew/half Negress Jurneee Smolett — yes, the sister of that infamous mongrel queer actor/”hate crime” hoaxer, Jussie Smolett…

Should I be surprised that there has been no further discussion about the now released anti-White movie, The Order, on at least nominally pro-White C-C since this mention on 21 November? Anyone interested can follow news of it here: The Order 2024, part 4 | National Vanguard

National Alliance’s latest counterpropaganda sticker with QR code:

The-Order-sticker.jpg (1650×1275)
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The Academy may now nominate demi-Jew Negress Jurnee Smolett for an Oscar. According to an Alliance member who viewed The Order, she is not Jude Law’s assistant FBI special Agent but his boss and they are involved in a romantic relationship. Nice touch in this film “based on a true story,”

Listen to Bob’s 1983 speech to an NA gathering in real time, here: William Pierce on Robert Mathews | National Vanguard

It was not delivered before a gathering at the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, and the audience did not chant the final four words of Bob’s speech. That is so much Hollywood bullshit that anyone comparing his speech to that in the movie can see for himself.

[Will Williams]

There is more interest on C-C now for alternatives to Christianity as a suitable religion for our people: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/co ... odcast-617


Will Williams: December 23, 2024 at 5:14 pm

John: December 23, 2024 Does anyone know of a religion that is synonymous with the White Race?

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Synonymous? It’s good for Whites to be familiar with their pre-Christian European beliefs that were heroic and matched our race’s character better than the Semitic slave religion. But those pagan beliefs are not suited to overcome the grip Jewish supremacism has on our people.

Knowing our people and our movement need a spiritual foundation that’s grounded in reality and that conforms to Nature’s laws, Dr. William Pierce founded Cosmotheism 50 years ago. See: Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future by William Pierce – Cosmotheism

Or put ‘Cosmotheism’ in the search block at nationalvanguard.org and dozens of articles will appear.

Deep inside all of us, in our race-soul, there is a source of divine wisdom,
of ages-old wisdom, of wisdom as old as the Universe. That is the wisdom,
the truth of Cosmotheism. It is a truth of which most of us have been largely
unconscious all our lives, but which now we have the opportunity to
understand clearly and precisely. -Dr. William Luther Pierce

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Siegfried thanks me. Will she look into and embrace Cosmotheism? We can only hope she dies.

Siegfried: December 23, 2024 Thank you for pointing this out. Christianity is antiwhite. Worshippers of Christianity worship Jews. Being White positive and Christian at the same time is an oxymoron. It is like trying to row a boat in two different directions at the same time, while you’re being chased by an antiwhite crocodile who wants to sink the boat and eat you.

[Will Williams]

More discussion with John about religion: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/co ... dcast-617/



Will Williams: December 24, 2024

John: December 23, 2024 Sam Dickson shaming idea is spot on. We need to use it at every opportunity. Christianity needs to be shamed for not only doing nothing but aiding & abetting the INVASION of our homelands. What good is christianity if it does not protect one of God’s magnificent creations – the White Race?
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Good question, John. Christianity is not grounded in reality. Fact!

The White race is not just one of our Creator's finest creations, but the most magnificent when compared to all others.

Also, whatever version of the Christian Bible one chooses to follow, whichever denomination, the deity he has chosen to worship is Jewish and imaginary. How stupid is that for a European White in 2024?

I’m not familiar with Sam’s shaming idea. He’s been helping me lately with a legal issue.

We have talked, discussing religion and Cosmotheism. Sam, a southerner, considers himself a nominal Christian. I got the impression that like most folks he doesn’t have a deep-seeded belief in mythical Jesus but more like he’s unwilling to jettison the traditions of his family church/denomination.

Traditions, no matter how stupid, are nevertheless difficult to break. What will the family think?

[Will Williams]

Jaye Ryan, posing as JayeRyanOD: tries to protect the alt-right loser Fuentes on C-C by stating supposed OD guidelines: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/ne ... -groypers/



Will Williams: December 24, 2024

Jaye Ryan: December 20, 2024 Please don t post unsubstantiated gossip about Nick F or anyone rise here this violates OD comment guidelines
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Who cares about OD guidelines?

[Will Williams]

Spencer Quinn reviews Hollywood filth for some reason: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/wicked/ I steer the discussion to The Order that C-C has been avoiding though I've brought it up several times.

Will Williams: December 24, 2024
Who on a supposedly pro-White site gives a shit about another Hollywood race-mixing flick? Does it also promote queers? Perfect.

Spencer, how about reviewing The Order, released into theaters this month. It’s about Bob Mathews’ group by that name that declared war on the anti-White system, supposedly based on William Pierce’s 50-year-old novel, The Turner Diaries.

It’s a Jewish pack-0′-lies film on a real-life White resistance experience, but infinitely more interesting to a pro-White crowd than this garbage you’ve reviewed.
The Order 2024, part 3 | National Vanguard
The Order 2024, part 4 | National Vanguard

Listen to Bob Mathews’ speech, given to a gathering of fellow National Alliance members in real time in September of 1993, prior to his resigning his NA membership and declaring war against the anti-White System: William Pierce on Robert Mathews | National Vanguard.

The Order portrays Bob’s speech as being impromptu at a gathering at Pastor Richard Butler’s Church of Jesus Christ Christian and the audience “chanting” the final four words of Bob’s actual speech: “Defeat never, victory forever” Scary, huh? It never happened.

[Will Williams]

Some folks have had a bellyful of the Christmas frenzy https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/co ... dcast-617/ It shouldn't be too difficult for some Europeans to return to celebrating pre-Christian traditions

Will Williams: December 24, 2024

Hyacinth Bouquet: December 24, 2024 I’ve certainly noticed a “Blackening” of Christmas by corporate media… I do not imbibe mainstream media “news” or “entertainment”, but I have read about and been exposed to many of its worst excesses through pro-White websites.
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Yes, it’s a shame, Hyacinth. Go with Yule, the mid-winter celebration of European people before it became Judaized, now Negified. Father Frost or Grandfather Frost are more suitable than Jesus and Santa.

Seasonal gift-giving is a great tradition, especially for children, The commercialization of the season is so Jewish and who does it benefit? Picture Jews gathered around their department store cash registers on Christmas eve, singing, What a friend we have in Jesus.

Call Jew-controlled mass media what they are , not corporate, not legacy, not even mainstream, but Jew-controlled.

[Will Williams]

John didn't say who Sam suggested be shunned in a speech he gave at the American Rennaissance gathering. Maybe he'll tell folks now so they don't have to go listen to Sam's speech. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/co ... dcast-617/



Will Williams December 24, 2024

John: December 24, 2024 “I’m not familiar with Sam’s shaming idea.”

He mentions it in his AmRen 2024 speech.
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Thanks. So, who did Sam say should be shamed?

[Will Williams]

Lexi cannot stand that I have not accepted Jesus to be my personal savior. I don't like arguing with her, but cannot leave her nonsense unrefuted. Some who see the exchange may agree with me and even become weaned from drinking the Jesus juice. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/co ... odcast-617


Will Williams: December 25, 2024

Lexi, responding to my statement: December 24, 2024 The White race is not just one of our Creator’s finest creations, but the most magnificent when compared to all others.

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I’m partial to the White race, myself. What I don’t understand is why you think the Christian God would object to the preservation of that which He created.
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Your premise is faulty, Lexi. Your Christian god, Yahweh or Jehovah, is imaginary. “He” created nothing.

The White race is Nature’s finest creation in known history — the most inventive, the most attractive, creative, the greatest explorers, etc., but Mother Nature cares not about that. All She cares about is which subspecies — for our purposes, which race — fights the hardest and is most determined to be still standing at the end in the eternal struggle for existence.

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…Since you seem to be open to the idea of a Creator (which, contra Scott upthread, is all but a proven scientific fact at this point), I wonder what exactly you think our Creator expects of us. By “us” I mean here all of humanity, not just Whites.
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Science confirms Nature’s laws, yes; science does not confirm the existence of Yahweh, or Jesus.

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Sometimes I think you anti-Christians confuse yourselves because you either cannot or will not recognize the Christian God for who He is. You insist he is a Jewish tribal deity, but then you insist that this Jewish tribal deity imposes an unlimited duty of charity to the entire planet that is inconsistent with our own survival. That is not the sort of thing a Jewish tribal deity would do, but this logical constraint doesn’t seem to bother you.
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Whatever. We have our way that conforms to Nature’s laws, you have Yahweh, the imaginary Jewish spook that does not. The two beliefs are irreconcilable.

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When you acknowledge that the Christian God is universal rather than tribal, you fail to recognize the logical corollary…
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Racially speaking, Christianity is universal because it is open to all races — yellow, brown, black or white, they are all precious in Yahweh’s sight. You either believe that or you don’t. Judaism on the other hand is only open to Jews, and racially through the mother’s blood line. That is racial and tribal. Yet Christians, yellow, brown black or white, foolishly worship the Jews tribal god. fact!

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I suspect that you are so committed to White supremacy…
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There you go again, using the enemy’s word to describe one who does not believe in your spookcraft. Supreme over whom? I am a racial separatist. How can I be supreme over those from whom I and my fellow separatists I intend to be entirely separated geographically?

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Greg has made a statement to the effect that only non-Whites have moral standing in Christianity, because they will always be the meek and the poor in spirit. His point is well-taken and rooted in Scripture. Here is how I would respond: This view rests on the Apocalyptic tradition of ancient Judea, wherein God was expected to personally appear and put a deeply unjust social status quo to rights. Apocalypticism by its very nature is not equipped to provide practical moral guidance over the long term, because there isn’t supposed to be a long term.
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Whatever. Greg can speak for himself, but he doesn’t strike me as a Bible thumper.

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This brings me to the main subject of this thread: Christmas….For now, I’m going to set these questions aside and celebrate. Merry Christmas, Happy Yule, or whatever.