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Post by Will Williams » Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:19 pm

Responding to ridiculous off-topic comments, though Clarissa at least agreed with what Wolf Stoner had written about Putin's "Great Patriot War" nonsense: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/

Will Williams:December 6, 2024
Clarissa Schnabel: December 6, 2024 The Great Patriotic War, Nazis, yada-yada-yada, appear to have become a matter of national identity and consensus for the Russians, just like the Holocaust™ for the Jews…
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Thanks, Clarissa. That’s what I and Wolf Stoner have said, except we would never use the Jewish catch phrase yada-yada-yada. Wasn’t that from the clever billionaire TV star Seinfield?
JayeryanOD: December 6, 2024 the best thing to do is promote Ehite brother sports friendship – White Slavic Russians are the best ice hockey players…
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That’s ridiculous. Aren’t you the fellow who had volunteered to update “Who Rules America?” I’m withdrawing any offer for you to help with that, thanks anyway.

I did find the latest edition of WRA? for anyone interested in William Pierce’s exposee of Jewish media control that he updated yearly for 30 years, beginning in the late 1960s. See the pdf link I made on 30 November in the Mainstream Media subsection of the Enemy section at WhiteBiocentrism.com: "Who Rules America?" WRA? is still informative and revealing, despite the "changing of Jew media bosses" since this outdated edition.
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Post by Dillon_C_Rau » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:21 pm

Glad to see you back Chairman, I always enjoy reading your posts here. It personally helps me with how I engage with people. Hope you are feeling better.



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Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:08 pm

After being called away for an emergency medical procedure since 2 December, this C-C topic nearly scrolled off of WB's front page, but I've caught up with three comments tonight, including this one under this essay: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/




Will Williams: December 6, 2024
Fionn McCool: December 6, 2024 Clarissa, I notice that the source you quote refers to WWII as “The Great Patriotic War”
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Like the Putinist troll “Victor” who repeats the same propaganda of “never forgive, never forget ‘Nazis’.”

Wolf Stoner, the ethnic Russian nationalist, explains the “Great Patriotic War” nonsense of President for Life Putin accurately: Victory Frenzy | National Vanguard

…The cornerstone of this neo-Stalinist ideology is the fairy-tale version of the Soviet war against Germany in 1941-45. Putin’s propaganda machine has transformed this historic event into a never-ending, ever-present ongoing affair that dominates all spheres of public activity.

All year round, from the Kuril Islands to Kaliningrad (occupied Konigsberg), from kindergartens to universities, from prisons to military garrisons, the garish “victory” paraphernalia dominates the landscape. From dawn to dusk, 365 days a year, all state media channels constantly stuff “victory” nonsense into people’s minds. The methods of brainwashing are even more crude and aggressive than they were back in Soviet times. The mainstream crowd feels itself obliged to participate in this theater of absurdity. Most of them do it willingly; but even those who don’t especially like this frenzy, participate all the same because of fear being socially ostracized.

In Putin’s Russia you are not simply nudged into being a part of this frenzy, but aggressively pushed into it. Some strata of society have no choice at all; for example, prison inmates, military and law enforcement personnel, state officials, schoolteachers, and workers at many other state-owned agencies. The state continues to be the main employer in Russia, therefore it can easily enforce its ideology through this channel. You are simply sacked if you do not want to be a part of this “victory” frenzy and other state-sponsored public activities. All in all, these measures have created ostensible “majority support” for the Kremlin’s overall policies. There is simply no other way for tens of millions of Russians. The passive majority — the lemmings — simply accept this as a given reality; they don’t like to question any authority; they are happy to bow before any dominant force. And they are happy to feel themselves a part of this seemingly almighty state. This whole crowd voluntarily repeats everything that emanates from the foul mouths of the state TV propagandists….

Of course, “Victor,” the asshole Putinist troll, simply calls Wolf Stoner a “phony nationalist” and continues to do so after being exposed as a troll on Western discussion boards. No wonder some people on C-C will be confused on the issue by allowing a documented Kremlin troll to spread his manure on this site. The comments under Wolf’s “Victory Frenzy” are worth taken in, even ones by “Victor”-like Putinist troll “Erik Thorson.” Wolf provides a nice video of the victory frenzy.

He then follows up this essay with others: The World War Is Coming | National Vanguard and: “Anti-Fascist” Russia: No Way Out | National Vanguard.

The post-World War 2 (WW2) Soviet Union relied on “the Great Patriotic War” mythology to justify its supposed “superior moral stature” in the world. The essence of its ideological message to the world was basically: “We saved the world from the greatest danger that ever afflicted humanity — Nazism — so everyone must respect us and be eternally grateful for this.”

But the more time passed, the less relevant this message became. A new reality displaced the myth. By the 1970s, very few people took it seriously — but almost everyone continued to give lip service to the myth.

The collapse of the USSR in 1991 should have been the final blow to the Soviet WW2 myth. The “greatest socialist country,” the “hope of humanity” and “defender of the workers of the world” fell apart because of its own inconsistencies. No one invaded it or undermined it from inside (as many pro-Soviet “patriots” like to claim). It simply collapsed like a defective building.

In the years that immediately followed, it seemed that all Soviet myths were dead and would never be taken seriously anymore. Yes, the 50th anniversary of “the great victory over the Nazis” was celebrated on Red Square as usual, with the same pompousness and pageantry, but it was perceived by society more like a generic festival than any kind of real or aggressive or militaristic message to the outside world….


Believe Wolf or believe “Victor.” They cannot both be correct.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:10 am

Dillon_C_Rau wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:21 pm
Glad to see you back Chairman, I always enjoy reading your posts here. It personally helps me with how I engage with people. Hope you are feeling better.

Will Williams wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:08 pm

After being called away for an emergency medical procedure since 2 December, this C-C topic nearly scrolled off of WB's front page, but I've caught up with three comments tonight, including this one under this essay: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/
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Thank you, Dillon, and thanks also for your printing our newest sticker "The Order Lies" with the QR Code. You are a valued Alliance activist. There is little interest at C-C in the false history in the Hollywood movie The Order, released into theaters this weekend. They prefer to yap about the literary worth of Raspail's Camp of the Saints, which, to my knowledge, hasn't inspired a Hollywood blockbuster.

I was hospitalized most of the past week after the docs discovered a golf ball-sized kidney stone and have been bedridden once home with an energy level lower than Jeb Bush's. I'll go back in tomorrow to deal with busting up the stone and should be all right after that.

Meanwhile, I woke up at 2am and checked out C-C on my new laptop and weighed in with this: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/ Added a link to the latest title added to our bookstore.




Will Williams: December 8, 2024
Peter: December 8, 2024 You are as deluded as the Americans and everyone else that lives in the West are… I can’t tell you the number of morons I have met, especially people under 35 years old who have been indoctrinated with the Holocaust and believe every word of it as if it’s their religion… In 2014, Russia criminalized “Holocaust denial” and “false data on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War.”

“Our victory?” Americans make the same claim. Neither one of you could have defeated Germany on your own. It took the combined efforts of four world powers, Great Britain, France, the USSR, and the USA, to defeat Germany, a small country with virtually no natural resources sandwiched between various enemies. It took six years to beat Germany because it was the most advanced country in the world, by far…

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Thanks for this refutation to the Putinist troll, “Victor,” who goes on and on about “Our victory.”

We just added Dr. Thomas Dalton’s primer to our bookstore: The Holocaust: 100 Questions and Answers – Paperback by Thomas Dalton – Cosmotheism

It would do C-C visitors well to purchase this for $18 and put to rest Jews’ “Holocaust” propaganda. Use it as a source for home-schooling our youth to counter and deprogram them from Putin’s “Great Patriotic War” nonsense and American VE Day celebrations.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:07 pm

Peter thanks me for reinforcing his truths: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/ So I respond, and point out that the asshole C-C troll, "Victor," told Peter that his Fuhrer was ignorant. Good. Race-thinkers will eventually have to choose sides between truth-tellers and those who compromise with difficult truths.


Will Williams: December 8, 2024 December 8, 2024 at 5:39 pm
Peter: December 8, 2024 Thanks!


Yours is a rare voice of reason on the subject of WWII at C-C.

The resident Putinist troll here, “Victor,” claims to have read MK, but calls its author, your Führer, arguably the greatest race-thinker of the first half of the last century, “ignorant.” Be careful, Peter, or you will be called out as an oddball for telling truths, when compared to those who see the Holocaust as truth, as practically a religion, like Putin’s phony “Great Patriotic War.”

“Victor” believes William Pierce, the greatest race-thinker of the second half of the last century, is also an ignorant oddball. I won't be arguing with the anonymous asshole -- that would be like swinging at a shadow. It's enough that C-C's resident troll is ineligible for NA membership. Our members like it that way. They don’t find uncomfortable truths odd at all:

That human equality is a big lie.
That the Holocaust is a bigger lie.
That Christianity is an even bigger lie.
Wolf Stoner: December 8, 2024 All you need to know about Putin’s army: https://odysee.com/@wolfstoner:9/%D0%BC ... tJZ4NgV1wH

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Well put. I tried to add this comment under your Odysee video:

The proud animal torture says it all. As an American I recognized two words from the torturer: suka and the name of the Jew leader of Ukraine, Zelinsky. Thank you, Wolf. -Will Williams, National Alliance

I was informed by Odysee that mine was an "invalid channel name." I don't do social media and have no interest in creating an Odysee channel, so just know that I tried to add that comment.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:13 pm

https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/ has generated some rather contentious commentary, separating NS adherents from so-called "White nationalists" who can use some education. That's OK -- part of the radicalization process.



Will Williams: December 8, 2024
Greg Johnson: December 6, 2024 Finland is in NATO now. It wouldn’t have happened if Russia had not invaded another one of its neighbors. I understand why Russian imperialists feel threatened by countries entering into a purely defensive alliance. It makes it harder for Russia to invade its neighbors. Now Russia can make Finland “pay dearly” for such a “provocation” only by committing national suicide. I think that’s a good thing.



That is now, Greg, but it hasn’t always been that way. NATO was formed by the victorious Jew-led Democrat/Bolshevist Allies in 1949, five years after Germany and that mean Mr. Hitler had been near totally vanquished. Some of us don’t see NATO as “a good thing,” thanks.

Reading National Vanguard‘s daily feature Today in History for 8 December, we’re reminded that in 1865 there was not such animosity between Germany and Finland, which in that year was part of Russia:

1865: The great classical composer Jean Sibelius is born in in Hämeenlinna, Finland, then a part of the Russian Empire. A choral adaptation of his inspiring Finlandia has been used since 1991 as theme music for the National Alliance radio program American Dissident Voices. On his 70th birthday (8 December 1935), he was awarded the Goethe Medal with a certificate signed by Adolf Hitler. During World War 2, Sibelius strongly urged Finns to ally with and fight alongside German forces — and said to the Germans, “I wish with all my heart that you may enjoy a speedy victory.”


If the reader acts quickly, he may catch a portrait of Mr. Sibelius before it scrolls off for 9 December’s Today in History feature, here. along with Mr. O’Keefe’s fine essay about racial hero Giordana Bruno from National Vanguard magazine 45 years ago that was recently republished: nationalvanguard.org Today in History
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Post by Dillon_C_Rau » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:03 am

Nothing can take you out. When I see the film I will attempt to take photos of my stickers. They have these conveniently flat trays attached to each seat, perfect for a sticker, they will have to watch the entire film with it staring back up at them.


Will Williams wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:10 am
Dillon_C_Rau wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:21 pm
Glad to see you back Chairman, I always enjoy reading your posts here. It personally helps me with how I engage with people. Hope you are feeling better.

Will Williams wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:08 pm

After being called away for an emergency medical procedure since 2 December, this C-C topic nearly scrolled off of WB's front page, but I've caught up with three comments tonight, including this one under this essay: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/
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Thank you, Dillon, and thanks also for your printing our newest sticker "The Order Lies" with the QR Code. You are a valued Alliance activist. There is little interest at C-C in the false history in the Hollywood movie The Order, released into theaters this weekend. They prefer to yap about the literary worth of Raspail's Camp of the Saints, which, to my knowledge, hasn't inspired a Hollywood blockbuster.

I was hospitalized most of the past week after the docs discovered a golf ball-sized kidney stone and have been bedridden once home with an energy level lower than Jeb Bush's. I'll go back in tomorrow to deal with busting up the stone and should be all right after that.

Meanwhile, I woke up at 2am and checked out C-C on my new laptop and weighed in with this: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/ Added a link to the latest title added to our bookstore.




Will Williams: December 8, 2024
Peter: December 8, 2024 You are as deluded as the Americans and everyone else that lives in the West are… I can’t tell you the number of morons I have met, especially people under 35 years old who have been indoctrinated with the Holocaust and believe every word of it as if it’s their religion… In 2014, Russia criminalized “Holocaust denial” and “false data on the activities of the USSR during the Second World War.”

“Our victory?” Americans make the same claim. Neither one of you could have defeated Germany on your own. It took the combined efforts of four world powers, Great Britain, France, the USSR, and the USA, to defeat Germany, a small country with virtually no natural resources sandwiched between various enemies. It took six years to beat Germany because it was the most advanced country in the world, by far…

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Thanks for this refutation to the Putinist troll, “Victor,” who goes on and on about “Our victory.”

We just added Dr. Thomas Dalton’s primer to our bookstore: The Holocaust: 100 Questions and Answers – Paperback by Thomas Dalton – Cosmotheism

It would do C-C visitors well to purchase this for $18 and put to rest Jews’ “Holocaust” propaganda. Use it as a source for home-schooling our youth to counter and deprogram them from Putin’s “Great Patriotic War” nonsense and American VE Day celebrations.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:37 pm

I present for C-C readers a version of Luigi's manifesto sent to me by an Alliance member. However, they must go to The Order Lies part three to read it. My comment appeared here, https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... -1-7-2024/ But it soon disappeared. Is that odd, or what?




Will Williams: December 11, 2024
Luigi’s “manifesto” seen in a comment, here: The Order 2024, part 3 | National Vanguard

J Webb: December 10, 2024 … now the hoaxing seems to be about which circulating manifestos might be the real one.
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This version seems authentic. It clearly addresses the motive for Luigi’s deed. Why would controlled media and the Famous But Incompetent authorities withhold it from the American public?
…Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No, the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it…
Not racial, but quoted for truth.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:57 pm

Having been away from C-C for a few days I was pleased to see our Wolf Stoner had made several comments there in my absence. https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... ing-again/ Rather than hog the comments with three separate comments, I combined them into one.

Will Williams: December 11, 2024
Wolf Stoner: December 8, 2024 It is an excellent article. I fully agree with the sentiments expressed by the author. But there are some points that must be addressed.
It is the purely German approach to try to be as objective as possible. It works excellently in physics and mathematics but not in politics. In politics you must be as biased as possible in order to render the best service to your kin. German obsession with objectivity has brought them to the present miserable condition (besides the consequences of the lost war). Instead of trying to inflict the greatest harm to the enemy they are always engaged in a wild goose chase for objectivity; to find the grain of truth in the enemy reasoning. This illness (born of high intellect and love of order) of super objectivity and righteousness must be cured. Germans must become wilder and less concerned about their public image. They must regain their ancient identity and start to hate their enemies with the whole might of their soul.
Why trying to research whether Putin and his gang have some justified reasons for their actions? Simply start to hate him and his rogue state. Start to crave his annihilation the way Syrians hate Asad. It is the most effective method of struggle….



What an interesting point you make about the fall of the Assad regime on the very day rebels overthrew him: What happened in Syria? How did al-Assad fall? | Syria’s War News | Al Jazeera Israel was quick to destroy Assad’s armaments.

As for Germany being too soft, we’ve known that for some time now.
Wolf Stoner: December 9, 2024 You employ logic arguments with Putinist troll “Victor”. It is utterly useless approach. He will pile tens of new false arguments on each of yours. These creatures are not interested in finding truth but to impose their false reality…
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I’m not blind to the uselessness of arguing with a known liar on the internet, Wolf. I cannot drag this “Victor” turd into a real-world court for defamation like I did the documented smear artist and political saboteur Harold Covington. I must depend on those in control of C-C moderation to do the right thing once alerted to “Victor” as the turd in C-C’s punchbowl. If C-C mods don’t care about having a documented Putinist troll having free say on this site, they don’t care. I’m certain that some on C-C still hold Mr. Covington in high regard because he had the ability to turn a phrase while constantly lying about legitimate White leaders through his yellow teeth.
Wolf Stoner: December 11, 2024 Thank you for gathering together all those vital points. It needs to be repeated as long as it takes to defeat the Evil Kremlin Empire, which identity is based entirely on the hatred of Europe and White race as such. The problem is that people in the West tend to forget that the founders of the modern Soviet/Russian state were comrades Lenin and Trotsky; they represented the most radical branch of Marxism. Their ultimate goal was the total destruction of the European civilization as such…

Those who consider Putin’s Russia as something different from USSR are either delusional or conscious deceivers
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:14 pm

Why would what's at least a nominally pro-White site allow such pro-Jew nonsense as what this loco kolokol posted? https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... -1-7-2024/ I feel a duty to counter it, if others won't.


Will Williams: December 11, 2024
kolokol: December 11, 2024 Bashar Assad was an evil man – as evil as Stalin... This is also a victory for Israel and for US aggression in the Middle East. Usually that’s a bad thing. Nevertheless, in this case, it’s worth the trade-off…
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Bullshit! Written like a true Shabbos goy.

“Our” leaders said the same thing about Saddam Hussein so he could be murdered for Israel. U.S. aggression in the Middle East is always for the benefit of our Jewish masters. Support of that shitty little nation against her neighbors is always a “bad thing.” Let Israel solve her problems without “our” assistance (military, financial or diplomatic). Don't look to Trump and his team of ultraZionists to do that.

Evil or not, unlike Saddam, Bashar has lived to see another day, rumored to be secured in Moscow. Good for him.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:23 pm

The anonymous loco kolokol seems to think he can debate me on any and all issues. But there are some in which he is clearly out of his depth, like this one: https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/th ... 1-7-2024/I would think there are at least a couple of folks at C-C who will agree with me.



Will Williams: December 12, 2024
kolokol: December 12, 2024 There is no justification for Luigi’s deed. Shooting someone in the back is murder in cold blood. If he is convicted by the court, he deserves the death penalty. I don’t care about his so-called “manifesto”. Nothing justifies such a crime.
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Luigi strikes me as an honorable man who, right or wrong, took up arms in his own way against what he sees as a terminally corrupt System. He understands the power of the deed. You think you do but you do not.

Would Luig's assassination of the fat cat United Health Care CEO have been justified had he asked him to turn around first so he could eyeball his assassin? You watch too many movies. You would not like William Pierce’s second novel, Hunter, the theme of which is this:

How should an honorable man confront evil. Should he ignore it, with the excuse that it is not his responsibility? Should he ally himself with the evil, because that’s where the “smart money” is? Or should he take up arms against it and fight it with all his strength and without regard for personal consequences, even if he must fight it alone?
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