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Post by Will Williams » Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:12 pm

Typical discussion of electoral politics, featuring Donald Trump and other "solutions": https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/th ... or-reborn/. I promote racial separation as the only solution and the National Alliance's program as the best plan for accomplishing that.

Will Williams: July 21, 2024
White American: July 20, 2024 White Americans can win for ourselves and our posterity by joining a pro-white [sic] group to spread the message… Join the American Freedom Party …

You are right that all White Americans should join a pro-White group, White American. That will never happen; we’re too far gone for that. The greater pro-White “movement” is all over the board, disarrayed and not organized. What’s needed is the focus of an ice pick, not a scattergun.

We will not vote our way out of the mess this country is in, either with “Emperor Trump’s” GOP or with the nominally pro-White, populist AFP.

There is no one to save us — and no way to save us — under the present System that exists in the United States. We must create our own system, our own new nation. We must start by forming our own local communities and build from there….

No one said surviving and prevailing will be easy, but those of us determined to preserve our race must physically separate ourselves, and do so with a sound plan, like the one highlighted above from the National Alliance, formulated by our giant leader, Dr. William Pierce, not by voting in the current mass democratic system that is terminally rigged against us. See that simple, sound plan, here: “What is the National Alliance?” at natall.com.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:15 pm

I'm not so sure Mr. Albrecht is sincere, but it doesn't matter if he is or not. My response is not so much for him as it is for others at C-C who might also have "heard that things got rocky for our Alliance after Dr. Pierce's passing." https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/editors-update-10/

Will Williams: July 22, 2024 at 3:02 am
Beau Albrecht: July 21, 2024 I’d heard that things got rocky for a while after Dr. Pierce’s passing. It sounds like that was so indeed. Anyway, I’ll have to check out the video site. Thanks for the tip!
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You’re welcome.

“Rocky” is an understatement, Beau. Our cause is not called a struggle for nothing.

Listen to those eight years of ADVs that you say you have (2002-’09) and evaluate for yourself how Chairman Pierce’s successor, Erich Gliebe, “rocked” the Alliance. That will help explain why you ceased collecting ADV broadcasts in 2009.

Gliebe’s biggest blunder was to jettison the Alliance’s unique world view, Cosmotheism, thinking that by making NA Christian-friendly more people would then join — his “broader outreach” strategy.

How did that work out? I and others who understood the movement Pierce had built resigned and I arguably became Gliebe’s most vocal critic for the reason stated above. By the time I was named the new Chairman twelve years after Pierce’s death, NA had lost 98% of its members and all Local NA Units. That’s how Gliebe’s stupid plan worked out.

I started rebuilding NA after what you call the Alliance’s “rocky” period with practically a clean slate — just 24 stalwart members, a lot of debt, but considerable assets.

The first thing I did wile fighting off several coup attempts by those after NA’s assets, was to reinstate Pierce’s Cosmotheism — what had set the Alliance apart and above all of the Christian-friendly groups.

You can read all about that in my book, Pocahontas Show Trial if you are really interested. Or, if you prefer, you can type ‘will wiliams’ in the search block at nationalvanguard.org and up will come several interviews and articles about how we came out of NA’s “rocky” period, like: “Will Williams: Taking the Hard Line.”

We’ve produced nearly 500 weekly ADV broadcasts since I became Chairman. They are not by William Pierce, but he would be proud of them. They are better than most of those in your collection.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:54 am

With Lexi's rather cryptic response to my rightly saying some other commenter was a "suicidal Christian" it appears that anyone opposing Christianity as the solution for "White nationalists" is on the fringe. So be it. Working from the fringe is what we realists are used to. https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/editors-update-10/ All successful revolutionary movements by necessity began from the "fringe."


Will Williams: July 22, 2024
Lexi: July 22, 2024 [W]hat is to be done about people who insist upon defining Christianity by reference to unrepresentative fringe elements?
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Embrace hardnosed White realists who place Nature’s highest law — survival of one’s own — ahead of those superstitious people who believe in an imaginary, eternal afterlife up in the sky while worshipping their enemy’s tribal deity. Gullibility is not a virtue when it comes to the preservation of our race.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:38 pm

The insistence of the popular, top commenter at Counter-Currents, Lord Shang, to lump in serious racial national separatists (as represented by the National Alliance) with the much much larger and ineffectual right-wing and so-called "white nationalist" movement is unacceptable to me and will not stand unopposed. https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/editors-update-10/


Will Williams: July 22, 2024
Scott: July 22, 2024 at 1:21 am [T]he Home Depot bag lady has done nothing wrong other than bad taste and being reflexively anti-White… Home Depot Human Resources is an example of “corporate woke” that will flip the script on us…
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I’m not familiar with the bag lady story, but on principle I’ve never even once darkened the doorway of a Home Depot for no other reason than it was founded by Zionist Jews and is the largest seller of Israeli products in the U.S. That’s where I draw the line when I need building material.
Lord Shang: July 22, 2024 I suppose I can be called a “white [sic] nationalist” because I place halting white [sic] genocide and taking the white [sic] side (which these days, especially, is also always the right – and Right – side)

But white [sic] preservationist and white [sic] racial justice issues are not the only issues, or even the most common ones, being taken up by legislatures…

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Call yourself whatever you want, Lord, but forget legislatures. What have any of them done for Whites lately?

Can you name even one legislator, state or national, who agrees with serious White preservationists that we must withdraw our consent to be governed by multiracial, Jew-controlled legislatures and separate ourselves from the failed multiracial experiment? Surely you must be able to name just one earnest right-wing white nationalist legislator with a backbone, with the moral courage to stand and represent White preservation.

You who characterize yourselves as right-wingers or in the big tent of “White nationalism (that includes idiots like non-White Fuentes who will exterminate non-Christians when his crew of dipshits takes power),” exemplified by your highlighted statement above, do not believe in the absolute primacy of preservation of the White race. You as much as admit that.


The (non-racial) “Right” can be lousy on prowhite issues…
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Like I said.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:38 pm

Agreeing with the author of this piece: https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/de ... far-right/

Will Williams: July 23, 2024 at 3:22 am
[N]either white [sic] supremacists nor the far Right exist in any meaningful sense…
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Bingo! A necessary subject for discussion among serious racial nationalists with the correct conclusion provided.

I remember John Harland’s Word Controlled Humans that was passed around in pro-White circles back in the 1980s. I see on Amazon.com that one rare, used paperback copy is available for $54.39 plus shipping. Keep your money.

An interesting review of it there has this pearl: “There is no left or right, there [are] only word-controlled people.”

Forty years later and for some, “the more things change, the more they stay the same.”

The words “far right” do not exist in the serious White racial separatist’s lexicon or in his world. How can serious Whites whose goal is to separate from racial aliens be accused of being supreme over those from whom they are determined to separate? Maybe there are still White “supremacists” somewhere who wish to exploit non-Whites in their midst since racial segregation and Apartheid utterly failed, but I don’t know of any myself. White supremacy is a stupid term from past half-measures.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:41 pm

I seem to have upset Miss Lexi, the Sunday School teacher who would have me sit in the corner wearing a dunce cap for doubting her Bible beliefs. https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/editors-update-10/ She wouldn't do well here at White Biocentrism.

Will Williams: July 23, 2024
Lexi: July 23, 2024 To Will Know-it-all Williams:

What makes you think Christians worship anyone’s tribal deity?

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For your Bible tells me so, Miss Lexi.

I don’t know it all, but I know that Christians foolishly worship Jehovah a/k/a Yahweh, the Jews’ imaginary tribal god and his alleged son, Jesus, who Jews seem to despise.

How odd of God to choose the Jews.

But not so odd
As those who choose
A Jewish God
Yet spurn the Jews.

Not odd
Of God;
Goyim
Annoy’im.


I have a White pill for you, though, Mr. Williams. There is a whole genre of “deconstructionist” propaganda on YouTube aimed at Christian youth…

These arguments only work on people who… don’t understand that what God chooseth, he can also unchooseth…

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Save your pill for someone else. YouTube is Jew-owned and bans those of us who tell truths about their tribe. Am I surprised that YouTube aims its propaganda at Christian youth? No.

I don’t care what the Jews’ god chooseth. No offense, Lex, but I unchooseth to debate the Bible with you, thanks.
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Post by Will Williams » Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:15 pm

Read this essay by Jim Goad to see why I commented below it as I did. https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/th ... k-yet-184/ What a week it was!
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Will Williams: July 23, 2024
By far the best report of the worst week yet. Thank you Mr. Goad.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:14 pm

Back and forth with Dr. Gullick:

Mark Gullick PhD: July 23, 2024 I haven’t heard of the Harland book, although as you say the price is a bit steep. ‘Word controlled people’. Spousal arguments often take place precisely on that level. As I say, while everything else is being stripped away from us, language is still a weapon on the wall. We ought to take it down and use it.

Will Williams: July 23, 2024
Mark Gullick PhD: July 23, 2024 I haven’t heard of the Harland book, although as you say the price is a bit steep. ‘Word controlled people’.
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That’s just me, Dr. Gullick. As an academic, in your specialty, as the only copy available, it may well be worth nearly $60. Supply and demand.


When Biden or CNN accuse half of America of being white [sic] supremacists, the mental image conjured up is the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan League, and Birth of a Nation…
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Being a White American man in the half that a Biden or CNN are smearing so smugly, conjuring up those negative images, I’m not that suggestible. Wouldn’t it be ideal if there are actually half of us who aren’t preconditioned to accept their propaganda unquestioningly?

The image I conjure up is the “Day of the Rope” when white race traitors like politicians and media moguls are dancing on air, hanging from lampposts.

QUESTION: When our side capitalizes the word White when referring to our race, unlike our enemies who use the lower case, white, would you say that is taking control of that word for our purpose?


‘Extreme doesn’t mean wrong’.
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No, not when in defense of liberty, as the demi-Jew Goldwater famously said. But after the comma he also reminded that “moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

When the enemy call us extremists, don’t deny it. Embrace it; fighting for the preservation of our race is certainly virtuous.
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:30 pm

More sparing with Dr. Gullick, who disagrees with me that White, when referring to our race, should be capitalized. However, he thinks capitalizing Black is just fine. https://counter-currents.com/2024/07/de ... far-right/

Will Williams: July 23, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Mark Gullick PhD: July 23, 2024 To capitalise ‘white’ just looks like tit-for-tat because Associated Press mandated that ‘black’ should always be capitalized… They are not out-thinking us, so how come they are winning?
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The Jew-run Associated Press may be influencing and out-thinking you, Mark, with its goddamned influential anti-White Stylebook. AP is not out-thinking me.

Who’s “titting for tat”?

Thanks for reminding me of AP’s role. I found the article below about when AP made the decision that henceforth everyone should capitalize Black but not white — our race — on “Juneteenth” four years ago. Dr. William Pierce and other serious White separatists — not supremacists — were capitalizing White when referring to our race decades before that phony nigger festival was foisted on us as a federal holiday. But Pierce wasn’t so narrow-minded as the AP and capitalized Black as well as other races, like Jew.

AP says it will capitalize Black but not white
BY DAVID BAUDER
July 20, 2020
NEW YORK (AP) — After changing its usage rules last month to capitalize the word “Black” when used in the context of race and culture, The Associated Press on Monday said it would not do the same for “white.”

The AP said white people in general have much less shared history and culture, and don’t have the experience of being discriminated against because of skin color.

Protests following the death of George Floyd, which led to discussions of policing and Confederate symbols, also prompted many news organizations to examine their own practices and staffing. The Associated Press, whose Stylebook is widely influential in the industry, announced June 19 it would make Black uppercase.

“We agree that white people’s skin color plays into systemic inequalities and injustices, and we want our journalism to robustly explore these problems,” John Daniszewski**, the AP’s vice president for standards, said in a memo to staff Monday. “But capitalizing the term white, as is done by white supremacists, risks subtly conveying legitimacy to such beliefs.”

**Mr. Daniszewski, race unspecified, did not make the cut on this handy WikiJew list: List of Jewish American journalists – Wikipedia.

However, by claiming that capitalizing the term white risks subtly conveying legitimacy to white supremacist beliefs — there’s that Jewish slur of legitimate White loyalists again — does not exactly qualify him for WikiJews’ very short List of Aryan American journalists. The burden is on him and AP and WikiJews to prove he does not have Yids in his fuel supply. Prior to becoming an expert in setting language standards, he reported for years for The Times of Israel, after all.
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Post by Wolf Stoner » Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:05 am

Will Williams wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:41 pm
I seem to have upset Miss Lexi, the Sunday School teacher who would have me sit in the corner wearing a dunce cap for doubting her Bible beliefs.

Christianity is a mental illness. Logical arguments are useless with them. Christians of whatever nationality behave similarly. Their ardor and hate of any dissent is similar with Marxist. It is some kind of canine rabies. People infected with it exhibit irrational behavior, sentimental love of their imagined god with periodic fits of hate against those who don’t share those believes. Be them Orthodox, Catholics or Jehovah’s Witnesses, the essential traits are the same. The only way to deal with such people is to leave them alone; either to die-out or be cured by harsh reality.

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