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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:23 am

What an excellent discussion of my favorite taboo subjects: race, religion and politics: https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/re ... scontents/ I edited two words here on the WB version to improve it but was unable to quickly edit the C-C version like I used to be able to do Oh, well, they were very minor edits, just two words. :)


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Dave Chambers: July 2, 2025 This is a fascinating subject. There is no doubt that the White race would benefit from a spirituality that promotes a healthy racial consciousness and positive eugenics… I am attracted to William Pierce’s cosmotheism. The idea that humans (and especially Whites) are the vehicle through which Creation comes to know itself, and that ultimately “our destiny is godhood” has an undeniable appeal. https://counter-currents.com/2011/01/our-cause/


Thank you, Dave. I read to the end of Mr. Secor’s piece, expecting to see at least a slight mention of the two Americans racial leaders who founded new, non-Semitic religious belief systems for Aryans: Ben Klassen (Creativity) and William Pierce (Cosmotheism). It took until I saw your comment, mentioning Cosmotheism and linking to Piece’s nearly 50-year-old Our Cause, that I clicked on, though already very familiar with that classic. It was featured on C-C in January of 2011 by Greg when he deduced Pierce’s National Alliance (NA) had become “defunct,” which was an almost accurate deduction.

Almost, but not quite. Pierce’s ideas will never become defunct — not if I can help it. It’s in the comments under C-C’s 2011 republishing of Our Cause that are interesting to me.

Andrew Hamilton’s thoughtful comment (Number 8) is fascinating and worth reading by everyone. Ones by Chechar and Fourmyle of Ceres, who promoted the enemy of our cause, Harold Covington, are distracting and next to worthless for that reason. That’s because I knew well then what an enemy Covington was, while Greg and others were fascinated by his novels. Greg’s comment (under number 6) shows his respect for Pierce who he’d had the pleasure of meeting and sharing a long discussion.

One comment I’ll address is that of Josh (Number 3) more for his ignorance than for anything else:


Josh: January 8, 2011 I’m very fond of this speech, as I am of much of Pierce’s early work. I can only say that I wish he’d emphasized in his later life the spiritual dimension of the Alliance’s mission. That — the most original and important part of Pierce’s vision — was overlooked in favor of (nevertheless still important and insightful) political commentary. He thought his gruff and blunt political commentary would win more support, and maybe it did. But I like to think that, if Pierce hadn’t died so young — and if he’d had competent help to lighten the Alliance load — he would have penned one of the great spiritual works of our age.

Like I said: ignorant! Josh describes Cosmotheism, Pierce’s lasting legacy, but has no idea why Pierce had de-emphasized that legacy after all of the negative attention he’d attracted by JOG, our Jewish watchdogs and their compliant Jewish-controlled media, after he had allegedly “inspired” many acts of terrorism (the Order and OKC bombing, for example — not to mention the Charlottesville and J6 debacles years after his death).

As for “if only he’d had competent help…” bullshit! Why did not Josh step into the breach and assist Pierce? Josh did not realize that a Cosmotheist spiritual thread ran through practically every “political” essay or American Dissident Voices broadcast Pierce composed during his “later life.” Don’t believe me? Listen to the 240 speeches of his that are preserved on 12 volumes in The Power of Truth CD series, available here: “The Power of Truth (Volumes 1 through 12)” at cosmotheistchurch.org.

Competent helpers Kevin Strom, Fred Streed, myself, and many others saved and have sufficiently resurrected Pierce’s National Alliance as well as his Cosmotheism legacy. Consider that we rebuilt Pierce’s bankrupt National Vanguard Books publishing arm as CosmotheistChurch.org online, where we have published, among other titles, the “bible”: preserving Pierce’s Cosmotheist writings and transcriptions of his Cosmotheist speeches, including Our Cause.

“Deep inside all of us, in our race-soul, there is a source of divine wisdom, of ages-old wisdom, of wisdom as old as the Universe. That is the wisdom, the truth, of Cosmotheism. It is a truth of which most of us have been largely unconscious all our lives, but which now we have the opportunity to understand clearly and precisely.”

Incidentally, I shipped a copy of the Cosmotheist bible to Dr. Johnson and he tells me he has assigned a PhD philosopher to review it for C-C. Hopefully, it will be a favorable review, but intelligent, open-minded racial loyalists — like you, Dave, and others at C-C — can purchase here to judge for yourselves: “Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future by William Pierce” at cosmotheistcurch.org.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:41 pm

A productive exchange by me and our WB member Douglas Mercer at Counter-Currents. I provide for Doug the C-C owner's excellent story of his memorable meeting with Dr. Pierce 13 years ago. https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/re ... scontents/
The readers of comments at C-C must tire of my constant promotion of Dr. Pierce, his teachings, NA, NV, ADV, and Cosmotheism, but they will be impressed by what their leader, Dr. Greg Johnson had to say about him, in his own words, around the time he launched Counter-Currents.



Will Williams: July 2, 2025
Douglas Mercer: July 2, 2025 Will:  I had not realized that Greg had met and spoken with WLP.   How fascinating that is, I would love to read an essay about his impressions and what was said, it would surely be one for the books.
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A simple search for 'William Pierce' here at C-C turns up a number of articles on Pierce, but this one gives you what you're looking for:  his story of meeting with WLP that is pretty much the same as what he related to me in person: Read that here: "Remembering William Pierce: September 11, 1933–July 23, 2002" at counter-currents.com
...On the weekend of July 14 and 15, 2001, Mike Polignano and I visited Pierce at the headquarters of the National Alliance in West Virginia. We spent several hours together on Saturday afternoon. I taped an interview with him about Savitri Devi. (Sadly, the tape was lost.)

I think Pierce enjoyed talking to a fellow Ph.D. and voracious reader. He took special pride in showing us around his vast and impressive library. One of his prize possessions was an autographed copy of Madison Grant’s Conquest of a Continent inscribed to Adolf Hitler...

Pierce was relaxed, friendly, talkative, and funny. When I said “negroes” he said, “‘Negroes’? Is that what they call them in Georgia these days?”

There were, however, occasional flashes of the author of The Turner Diaries. He suggested, for instance, that Mike pursue his biology studies in graduate school so he could develop race-specific biological warfare agents. (Of course the Israelis are doing just that, so I guess he thought why not develop a White Death?) I thought of it as his Bond villain persona, complete with lap cat.

Pierce was completely unpretentious. His office was much smaller than his secretary’s. When I asked him for photocopies of the excerpts from Savitri Devi’s Defiance and Gold in the Furnace that he had published in National Socialist World, he cheerfully agreed, got up, and made the copies himself.

He told me he would ask Suzanne to make one more search for his correspondence with Savitri and asked us to stop by the next morning before we left town. The letters, alas, had not turned up. So we took photos with Dr. Pierce (and his cat Hadley) and bid him good bye. He was an extraordinary person, and I hoped we would meet again. But a little more than a year later, he was dead.

It was only after Pierce’s death that I discovered another side of his personality: the philosopher and religious thinker. In Minneapolis, I was given the books and papers of a deceased professor who had been involved with the American Nazi Party and its offshoots beginning in the early 1960s. The trove included correspondence with Pierce (signed Heil Hitler!), a complete set of National Socialist World, Pierce’s pamphlets on cosmotheism, a pretty much complete set of National Vanguard magazine, and even sheet music for National Alliance songs. Around the same time, Kevin Alfred Strom began publishing other philosophical and spiritual works at the National Vanguard site.

I found that Pierce had a deep feel for philosophical and spiritual questions and a first rate speculative mind. The angry man persona is not present in these writings. Instead, his prose is restrained, Olympian, luminous, sometimes even poetic. I have reprinted some of my favorites among these essays here. If you only read one essay by William Pierce, let it be “Our Cause.” I will share my thoughts on cosmotheism in another essay.

During our conversation on July 14, 2001, Pierce told us something that I will always remember. He loved physics, and he said that giving up academia was the hardest thing he ever did, but in the end, nothing could compare with the freedom to spend the rest of his life speaking the truth.
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Post by Will Williams » Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:11 pm

Posting again from John Ubele's excellent updated topic at WB: https://counter-currents.com/2025/06/th ... his-to-us/


Will Williams: July 2, 2025 Again, things are not as they appear in Jew-controlled media. Believe this, or not


Israel Suffered Extensive Damage
by Larry C Johnson
Jun 26, 2025

Despite the arduous efforts of Israeli censors to hide the devastation Iran inflicted on Israel with its barrage of ballistic missiles during the 12-Day War, information is emerging that destroys the myth that Israel had an impregnable air defense. The map at the head of this article reveals the sites targeted by Iran. Based on the videos of strikes in Haifa and Tel Aviv, I think this map accurately portrays the massive scale of the Iranian attack. For the first time in its history, Israel took a major beating.

According to various Israeli media reports, damage spanned residential buildings, scientific infrastructure (e.g., labs at the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot), the Israeli Defense Ministry complex, and commercial hubs like the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. Iran also struck a military target near the Soroka Medical Center in Be’er Sheva. The medical center was hit by the blast wave, which caused extensive structural damage, a chemical leak, and dozens of injuries…

Iran also struck the following residential areas, reportedly targeting Israeli military and intelligence officials:

Bat Yam: 9 killed, ~200 wounded; high-rise apartments destroyed.
Ramat Gan: Nine buildings destroyed, hundreds displaced.
Haifa and Tel Aviv: Strikes near military HQs (“Kirya”) and civilian neighborhoods.

Iran also caused extensive damage to the Port of Haifa and the Port of Ashdod (note, I had no information on the latter when I posted yesterday), as well as the refineries at Haifa and Ashdod. Israel has maintained a complete blackout on the damage to its military and intelligence facilities, but the sites identified on the map above indicate that Iran likely enjoyed similar success as that observed in Haifa and Tel Aviv.

See the map of these successful Iranian bombings of Israel, here: Israel Suffered Extensive Damage – by Larry C Johnson
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https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/re ... scontents/


Will Williams: July 3, 2025
Kim: July 2, 2025 Oops, I noticed a typo that I can’t edit.  I meant to say that while I prefer Creativity to Cosmotheism, I can’t fathom a raw foods diet lifestyle.
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I feel for you, Kim. I often see where a slight edit would improve what I wrote soon after submitting a comment and seeing  it -- and used to be able to make a quick edit, a misspelling, a needed space or substituting a better word. But no more. For some reason I've lost that ability to make a quick edit. So be it.

Klassen recommended a diet of fruits and vegetables, yes, but it's not that unusual, He didn't practice it himself, but recommended it as part of his his mantra: "a sound mind in a sound body in a sound society"

It’s also really bad for morale for a church leader to die by suicide, <— IF that is, in fact, how Ben Klassen died...
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Yes, it's true, but Ben died with dignity, not a "coward's way out," as some would say. His lovely wife of 40-plus years, Henrietta (Henry), had recently died, so, at 73 he was lonely, his health was failing, on vatious medications, and had uncharacteristically even begun to drink alcohol. He had tried unsuccessfully to name a successor to head the Church he had founded 50 years previously (1972), and when he finally managed to name one, the inept fellow closed the Church and failed to defend a convoluted vicarious liability lawsuit against the Church of the Creator (COTC) brought by the sleazy barrator Morris Dees and his so-called Southern Poverty Law Center, leading to more depression.

Ben had already divested the million-dollar Church property to William Pierce (which I arranged, having previously been BK's XO and was WLP's XO at the time -- no brag, just fact). BKs affairs were in order, except for the $million-dollar default judgment SPLC was awarded against the COTC after he'd already stepped down as the leader (Pontifex Maximus) of the Church. That judgment was transferred to Pierce by Dees who had to defend in a surreal scheme to destroy both the COTC and NA, using his patented vicarious liability bullshit that he and his "law center" had already used to destroy other pro-White groups. Long story -- see "William Pierce on Lawyers and the SPLC" at nationalvanguard.org.

Ben was an honorable man and had lived a full life, wrote ten books and founded a racial religion for his people -- a great man, when the truth be known. He had been attacked forr years by JOG, our Jewish wtchdogs, Jewish media, and mercilessly by the SOB, Harold Covington, who spread the most malicious rumors that he was a homosexual Jew who raped and murdered skinhead boys, among other outrageous lies. That's the reason I hated to see Covington promoted on sites like this, TOO, and other pro-White places, mainly for his telling the truth about Christianity being Jewish hogwash.

Now you know more of the story, but there's more, much more, like from my old friend Gordon Ipock who knew Klassen and who introduced me to Pierce in West Virginia on the 4th of July weekend  in 1991:

Setting the Record Straight: Gordon Ipock's Reminiscence of Harold Covington

Gordon Ipock posted this on VNN Forum on 3 February 2005 under the username EdbergEdberg. 

Harold is bad news, to be shunned...

I first met Harold Covington back in about 1987, after he had returned to North Carolina from Ireland. His purpose was to pick up the pieces of Glenn Miller's White Patriot Party. He always saw Glenn as an enlisted man and himself as officer material, and he genuinely disliked Glenn because Glenn had succeeded brilliantly in the White Movment where he had failed repeatedly. He was motivated by pure jealousy.


It didn't take me long to see that Harold's attempt at forming a neo-Confederate Nazi group was highly suspect. He had a way of wording his agenda so that followers were admitted enemies of the government... open rebels, much like the original Confederates were. It was bold stuff, but stupid as hell, unless his purpose was to set people up. I pointed this out to the followers he had attracted, and they quickly began to see what Harold was doing. You've got to understand, these guys and myself had just seen the Feds and Jews trash the WPP, which was a legal organization. Harold was building something illegal from the get-go.


In the years since I have seen Harold repeatedly attack anyone who was doing good things for our race. He spent several years attacking Ben Klassen when his COTC was white hot in the early 90s. Then during the mid-90s when the National Alliance began to make impressive strides he aimed his venom at Dr. Pierce. And the common element in both these groups was Will Williams. Will played a major role in the growth and success of both the COTC and the NA during the 90s. And for this hard work and success, Will also drew the venom of Harold Covington.


I've watched Harold at work on internet usenet groups and stuff since the mid-90s when he first became internet savvy. One thing always struck me: Harold always aimed his crticisms and lies at whomever was doing the most for our movement and race at any particular time. The only conclusion that I could reach was that Harold was working for the other side.


Harold is a very intelligent guy, and a talented writer. Perhaps he started out as a genuine pro-white activist... or perhaps he was working for the enemy from day one. I don't know where the truth is in this. But after watching him closely for several years, I could only conclude that if he wasn't on the payroll of the ADL or SPLC or the FBI, he damned sure should have been. Again, he spent most of the 1990s harshly criticizing Dr. William Pierce and the NA. And at the time, Pierce was like God and the NA was like his saints. I also had the pleasure of meeting Ben Klassen personally and he struck me as a man of high intelligence and good breeding, cultured and courteous, a real gentleman. This was while Covington was calling him "Benny Buttf-ck"....
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Post by Will Williams » Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:20 pm

Answered Douglas Mercer's questions with an anecdote about a book that Greg Johnson mentioned he'd seen in Dr. Pierce's private library back in 2002: https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/re ... scontents/



Will Williams: July 3, 2025 Greg remembers meeting with WLP: [Pierce] took special pride in showing us around his vast and impressive library. One of his prize possessions was an autographed copy of Madison Grant’s Conquest of a Continent inscribed to Adolf Hitler…


Douglas Mercer: July 2, 2025 Thank you for that, Will. Fascinating it proved to be, that is a great essay and gives us a good portrait of WLP. By the way, does anyone know where the Grant book inscribed to Hitler is? Or where he got it?
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As you know, Douglas, the National Alliance still owns Dr. Pierce’s “vast and impressive library” that Greg visited in 2002. Those volumes, along with the collections of others, including James Madole, Garret Daams, George Lincoln Rockwell, Ben Klassen, Joe Pryce, etc. — nearly 30,000 well-collected books altogether — many of which will be preserved in the William Luther Pierce Memorial Library and Research Center that is now being built in Upper East Tennessee.

I saw Pierce’s Grant book years ago among his other prized titles. Whe did he get it? He used to roam the halls of the the world’s largest research library, the Library of Congress, when he lived in the Washington D.C. area. Occasionally, as a bibliophile collector, he would somehow occasionally purchase rare titles there. The Grant book was among a collection, including Bolshevism From Moses to Lenin (which he was the first to translate from German). Those books, as he told me, had been captured by the Allies from the NSDAP’s collection once Germany was vanquished in 1945. He cajoled some unaware Black LOC custodian into letting him take some of the volumes from that collection.

Where is the Grant book now? It is a one of its kind treasure for a collector, being transcribed to AH by the author, so it will eventually show up some time, somewhere, along with a chain of custody. When I purchased Dr. Pierce’s library 11 years ago with my own savings to preserve it for NA I was disappointed to discover that book had been looted, along with a Savitri Devi book inscribed to Pierce by her, and a few other valuable titles. One that I mentioned to Greg that was looted was GLR’s little hardback, Great Black Contributions to Civililization. What was great about it was that every page in the book was blank. What a sense of humor that man had. Greg told me he actually owns a copy of that little book himself.
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Post by Will Williams » Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:34 pm

I respond to Douglas about this "Battle of the Books" subject again, but add a link to one of the most powerful articles on NV about the JQ, thanks to the frank comments under it: https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/th ... e-books-1/



Will Williams: July 4, 2025
Douglas Mercer: July 2, 2025 Will: I think that the academics would consider Klassen and Rockwell both highbrow; despite the latter’s at times inane (and tongue in cheek) provocations he wrote several books which qualifies him. Though I get the idea that when certified Professors call White Nationalists “highbrow” what they really mean is it’s just a better class of bigot.


Maybe.

It’s great that academia is acknowledging Greg Johnson and Counter-Currents for good work and bridge-building for young WNs to 20th century, so-called “Old Right” White leaders. It’s important that youngsters are led to appreciate and learn upon whose shoulders they now stand. Not just men like Klassen, and Rockwell who used to speak on university campuses, but many others, including Robertson and Pierce that C-C features, to teach them this — or Dr. Revilo Oliver who can still dance circles around intellectually dishonest academicians about race and religion 30 years after his passing.

Personally I do not trust most academicians or the books they write about us. I’ve seen too many of their books, some used as textbooks in their university classes to bend and misinform impressionable young White minds away from us — when we’re right and they are dead wrong.
[Professor Hawley notes:] “Counter Currents [sic] is one of the more important bridges between today’s white nationalists and their twentieth-century predecessors”...

Greg writes: [Hawley] is also inaccurate to say that “much” of Counter-Currents deals with the Jewish question, although we do deal with it quite frankly.

Racial nationalists are indeed very fortunate to be able to deal frankly with the JQ here on C-C, Douglas. I was just reminded of this article of mine from two years ago that deals frankly with the JQ and noticed a comment under it by you. It doesn’t get much more frank than: “Chairman Williams Exchanges Pleasantries with Former High School Classmate” at nationalvanguard.org
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Will Williams wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:20 pm
Answered Douglas Mercer's questions with an anecdote about a book that Greg Johnson mentioned he'd seen in Dr. Pierce's private library back in 2002: https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/re ... scontents/



Will Williams: July 3, 2025 Greg remembers meeting with WLP: [Pierce] took special pride in showing us around his vast and impressive library. One of his prize possessions was an autographed copy of Madison Grant’s Conquest of a Continent inscribed to Adolf Hitler…


Douglas Mercer: July 2, 2025 Thank you for that, Will. Fascinating it proved to be, that is a great essay and gives us a good portrait of WLP. By the way, does anyone know where the Grant book inscribed to Hitler is? Or where he got it?
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As you know, Douglas, the National Alliance still owns Dr. Pierce’s “vast and impressive library” that Greg visited in 2002. Those volumes, along with the collections of others, including James Madole, Garret Daams, George Lincoln Rockwell, Ben Klassen, Joe Pryce, etc. — nearly 30,000 well-collected books altogether — many of which will be preserved in the William Luther Pierce Memorial Library and Research Center that is now being built in Upper East Tennessee.

I saw Pierce’s Grant book years ago among his other prized titles. Whe did he get it? He used to roam the halls of the the world’s largest research library, the Library of Congress, when he lived in the Washington D.C. area. Occasionally, as a bibliophile collector, he would somehow occasionally purchase rare titles there. The Grant book was among a collection, including Bolshevism From Moses to Lenin (which he was the first to translate from German). Those books, as he told me, had been captured by the Allies from the NSDAP’s collection once Germany was vanquished in 1945. He cajoled some unaware Black LOC custodian into letting him take some of the volumes from that collection.

Where is the Grant book now? It is a one of its kind treasure for a collector, being transcribed to AH by the author, so it will eventually show up some time, somewhere, along with a chain of custody. When I purchased Dr. Pierce’s library 11 years ago with my own savings to preserve it for NA I was disappointed to discover that book had been looted, along with a Savitri Devi book inscribed to Pierce by her, and a few other valuable titles. One that I mentioned to Greg that was looted was GLR’s little hardback, Great Black Contributions to Civililization. What was great about it was that every page in the book was blank. What a sense of humor that man had. Greg told me he actually owns a copy of that little book himself.
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Will,

Thank you for all that information, it is extraordinarily interesting. I knew you were creating a library but was unaware of the actual scope of your activities. You and the National Alliance are doing yeoman’s work and are creating a repository of the priceless heirlooms of our race. The library itself will be a paean to the fame of William Pierce’s deeds. Hopefully the Grant book will turn up and then we can see it prominently and reverently displayed under glass.

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Responding again to Douglas, explaining a little Alliance history for him and others at C-C: https://counter-currents.com/2025/07/re ... scontents/


Will Williams July 4, 2025
Douglas Mercer: July 3, 2025 Will, Thank you for all that information, it is extraordinarily interesting. I knew you were creating a library but was unaware of the actual scope of your activities. You and the National Alliance are doing yeoman’s work and are creating a repository of the priceless heirlooms of our race. The library itself will be a paean to the fame of William Pierce’s deeds. Hopefully the Grant book will turn up and then we can see it prominently and reverently displayed under glass.


You’re welcome, Douglas. There was no way I was going to allow Dr. Pierce’s life’s work for our people to die because of his successor as NA Chairman’s mismanagement of it. I learned he was trying to sell Pierce’s library to the highest bidder, so, even though he would not talk to me for a decade because I was his biggest critic for how he was destroying NA, I called him and negotiated to purchase the library myself to secure it.

He and NA had been sued for $2 million by some disgruntled former Alliance members and desperately needed money. He couldn’t handle defending the Alliance from the lawsuit, so wanted out. Since I owned Pierce’s library and knew my way around legal issues, he and the NA board named me to the board; he stepped down, resigned from the Alliance, after he and the board named me the new Chairman.

I inherited considerable debt and the loss of most Alliance members, fought off that lawsuit, a couple of other nasty coup attempts, being cuffed and jailed three times, and here we are today, 11 years later with the National Alliance restored, as well as Dr. Pierce’s vision of the Cosmotheist Church Community is carefully being built.

Some of the background about all of that can be read in Odrej Mann’s C-C interview with me in May, but is more thoroughly explained in the legal thriller my wife and I wrote, if anyone is interested in what it takes to build a real life movement to preserve our race: “Pocahontas Show Trial by William W. Williams” available at our online bookstore at comotheistchurch.org for $20.

I’m not going to cry over a stolen book any more than over my portrait of Pierce, his favorite, that someone took from his living room wall after he died. It will show up some time, somewhere. I do regret that someone purloined what I consider an historical photograph that Pierce’s fourth wife, Sue, took of me standing between Pierce and Klassen, with my arms around their shoulders. Imagine that, my two mentors, who both had independently founded non-Semitic religions for our race more than 50 years ago. One day, hopefully, that photograph will also show up. That’s life. I will not cry over it — just mention its existence.
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Post by Will Williams » Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:11 pm

The comments under the second part of my C-C interview are still opened and I discovered this flattering comment by Miss Hyacynth while searching for what I'd written there a month ago: https://counter-currents.com/2025/05/in ... ll-part-2/ My comment is self explanatory, a reaction to what Stargazer poste on WB today.


Hyacinth Bouquet: June 26, 2025 Will Williams is a living legend, right here in our midst!


Ha! The only way we can possibly become legendary is if we actually win the White racial struggle.

I just now saw your compliment while searching for what I’d written here on 5 June, replying to Kim about what she’d said about Billy Roper. Note the last sentence, highlighted:

…I won’t speak to the mumblings you’ve heard about Billy Roper being “maniacal and totally unpredictable.” That sounds to me like typical “movement’ rumors… I’m sorry, but Opportunism is the appropriate word I can think of to explain Billy’s pretended belief in and promotion of Pierce’s decidedly unChristian, Nature-based Cosmotheism — then go on to apparently promote “belief” in Jesus, and the promise of an eternal heavenly paradise with Jesus’s daddy, Jehovah. When Mr. Robb retired and turned the Klan group he’d built over to his beloved, sincere daughter Rachel rather than to the man who you describe as “open-minded,” Roper went on to form another group called “the Shield Network,” or something like that, then presently to an Orania-like separatist community somewhere in the Ozarks. You can hope he is “charismatic” enough to pull that off…



The reason I searched for that about an Orania-like separatist community in the Ozarks was because of this that was posted to our NA forum today:

Stargazer wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:49 am
Recently on Reddit, Jews were alarmed to find out that an organization known as Return To The Land (RTTL) is attempting to establish an intentional white [sic] community on 160 acres of land in northern Arkansas. They go on about how this is an attempt to circumvent the fair housing act of 1968 and that “white supremacy” has no place in Arkansas:

Return to the Land founded by Eric Orwell and Peter Csere has advocated for a need to develop parallel institutions, being self reliant x and overall the continued existence of the white race. Their organization is peaceful, and never advocated for violence or armed resistance. However the very existence of such a community to the Jews is simply intolerable. A group of Blacks in Georgia calling themselves the “Freedom Georgia Initiative” have also purchased land to build an intentional Black community (to questionable success), but has received no such condemnation from the Jews.

This goes to show how much our very existence or creating any sort of living space for our people is an abomination to our enemies, but we must not give them any ground. Recently the ADL made a post on X condemning RTTL, and a majority of the comments on that post are instead condemning the ADL.

https://forward.com/news/733168/return- ... ic-orwoll/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/s/cnH9001bwK

https://returntotheland.org/


I knew I’d already checked into Eric Orwell’s effort, that he was well-intentioned, but could also see he would be vulnerable to an ADL legal challenge with his half-baked scheme — using such anti-White crap as the fair housing act of 1968. I won’t get into that here, now. Go to the link to his site and judge Eric’s efforts for yourself. He has a donate button and a way you can apply for membership in his community.

We certainly must separate racially, but with more care and with more purpose, as our National Alliance/Cosmotheist community has been doing.
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