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Post by Will Williams » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:39 pm

The intellectual expert in old philosophers, Mr. Cleary is posting a 15-part, book length series in which I have little interest. That is until I saw a comment under his newly posted part 7, here: https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/he ... il-part-7/

Our Douglas Mercer challenged Professor Cleary under part-1 in this series, here: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/he ... il-part-1/



Will Williams: October 26, 2024
Collin Cleary: October 26, 2024 Oh yes, definitely. See also this essay on the early Schelling for an account of his break with Fichte:

https://counter-currents.com/2023/04/in ... ng-part-i/

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There is no mention of Fichte in the above article, but the break is made clear in your linked one:

Spinoza and Pantheism: Schelling parted company with Fichte on the question of the nature of nature partly as a result of his enthusiasm for the philosophy of Benedict Spinoza (1632-1677), a Dutch Jew who is considered one of the primary figures in the rationalist movement in modern philosophy. Spinoza argued that God is the whole — the entire universe of being, and therefore that nothing exists outside God.

William Pierce’s Cosmotheism is said to be an elaboration of Pantheism, but he makes clear that the early Pantheist Spinoza’s new creed naturally has a Jewish flavor, thus is unsuitable for today’s Whites, being different from Cosmotheism. From: “WLP86: William Pierce on Cosmotheism, Wave of the Future” at nationalvanguard.org. |

It may be generally true that the Talmud is the typical expression of the Jewish race-soul and that the Jew with intellectual pretensions is epitomized by the modern hair-splitting, haggling lawyer. Nevertheless, some Jews have seen the Cosmotheist truth underlying modern science, and they are quite clever and quite energetic enough to try to establish for themselves a dominant position in giving expression to this truth – and in interpreting it for everyone else, so that they can blunt the danger it poses to them, and so they can turn it aside and guide it into safe channels. It would be quite naïve of us to say that Cosmotheism is our truth, not theirs, and that we have a natural advantage in interpreting it and that it would be as unnatural and awkward for a Jew to try to set himself up as a Cosmotheist as it would be for a White man to set himself up as a Talmudist and try to debate the rabbis on points of Talmudic doctrine. After all, a Jew, Baruch Spinoza, was one of the foremost expounders of pantheism in the 17th century, at a time when that was hardly a safe or a popular position for anyone to take. He was, in fact, excommunicated by his fellow Jews as a consequence. But because Spinoza was a Jew, he couldn’t help but give a Jewish flavor, a Jewish interpretation, to his pantheism. In particular, the ethical conclusions that he drew from his pantheism were strictly Jewish, and I think it’s only fair to assume that Spinoza had no ulterior motive….

It would be easy to take a shot across the bow of a man who died more than a century ago. I’m no big fan of Schelling with all his talk about the “traditional God.” I do know that Johan Gottlieb Fitchte is recognized as an early proponent of the German National Socialist world view. An Alliance member is presently working on updating and republishing the long article that Dr. Pierce wrote in 1979 that is favorable to Mr. Fichte. It begins on page 152 of The Best of Attack! and National Alliance for those who have a copy of that book.
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Post by Will Williams » Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:53 pm

By engaging with this "Victor" Putinist at Counter-Currents I have discovered that he had tried the same thing in a comment at NV under one of Wolf Stoner's essays nearly 18 months ago (see the part below, highlighted in red): https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/ru ... morphosis/


Will Williams: October 26, 2024
“Victor”: October 26, 2024: Chairman Williams, have pity on the humble Russian engineer. I will not be able to quickly find and read the specified article. The NV site is slowing down on our Internet, and the site search is not working… And how does [Wolf] find time for such “sheets”?
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There will be no pity from me for you because your computer doesn’t work. This link to Wolf’s “A Russian Nationalist on the Ukrainian Dilemma, part 1” at nationalvanguard.org is just the first of his 5-part treatise (not a “sheet”) on the subject.

Wolf makes time to inform American racial patriots about the subject of the Ukrainian/Russian conflict because many are confused and misled by Kremlin propagandists like you who need to be countered with the truth.

A more important essay by Wolf last year may be this one: “War in Europe: A Call for Neutrality” at nationalvanguard.org. You were able to access it on 8 June when you commented under it as “Victor” with the same bs you’ve been posting here. Wolf had you pegged for posting your pro-Putin disinformation on “Western” pro-White sites like NV and C-C. Where else do you ply your sleazy trade?
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:02 pm

A good opportunity for me to promote not just essays available at NV under a popular C-C writer's piece but NV itself as a source to find almost anything relevant to Our Cause: https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/editors-update-24/

Will Williams: October 27, 2024
Let's All Drink to the Death of a Clown: October 27, 2024 I would read what Dr. Revilo P. Oliver had to say about the JFK Assassination... Out of all the books and articles written about the assassination Dr. Oliver and Michael Collins Piper explain it best.
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Yes, a good way to find what RPO had to say about the JFK assassination is to simply put 'Oliver JFK' in the search block at the NV site as I just did. Up popped these three essays about the subject by Dr, Oliver.

"Killing Kennedy" at nationalvanguard.org. |
"Spiced Crambe" at nationalvanguard.org.
"Cinematic Résumé" at nationalvanguard.org.

Those pieces by Dr. Oliver, though illuminating for our side, are rather dated. An updated piece about Jewish participation in the assassination is offered by Hadding Scott, here: "Basic Facts About the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy" at nationalvanguard.org. 

Another even more recent piece, by the excellent researcher and former C-C writer, Andrew Hamilton, is: "Jews and the Assassination of JFK" at nationalvanguard.org. He provides links to Dr. Oliver's earlier writings on the assassination with this:

...The Warren Commission even subpoenaed Revilo Oliver to testify because he had written a two-part article, “Marxmanship in Dallas,” for the John Birch Society’s American Opinion magazine shortly after the assassination. (A different version, from an original Oliver manuscript, can be read online here.)

I was so fascinated by the fact that the Commission had done something so stupid, irrelevant, and time-wasting that I looked up the transcript in the full report. (You now have the luxury of reading it online if you wish.)

The Feds assiduously tracked “news items and newspapers published in Washington, D.C., Illinois, Mississippi, Arizona, Texas, Colorado, California, and other States” containing “reports of lectures and speeches made by” Oliver in which he “repeated, elaborated upon, or added to the charges and claims made” in the American Opinion article!

Interestingly, Mr. Hamilton is critical of Piper's Final Judgment in his piece.

The JFK murder aside, it's good to see another piece that exposes Trump as the Judeophile that he is.
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Post by Will Williams » Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:25 pm

I take another shot at exposing Kremlin propagandist "Victor," for what it's worth:
https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/wh ... nce-trump/
I doubt seriously if C-C owner Greg Johnson will ban the obvious Putinist troller of his site as we would do.



Will Williams: October 27, 2024
BillMiller: October 25, 2024 I agree with Greg here with one small caveat…
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I hardly agree with Greg on everything, but that he is guiding folks to vote for Trump, if only to help avoid his anti-White opposition to gain what has become that mostly puppet-leader seat of power, is sound advice and important.

For me Greg’s most profound observation in this piece is: “Unfortunately, the American Right is rotten with Russian propagandists…”

One of those rotten Russian propagandists, Putinist “Victor,” has been commenting here at C-C for some time now as I pointed out conclusive yesterday — already deeply buried in comments — here: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/ru ... morphosis/

Rather than respond to my proof that “Victor” is a propaganda agent of the Kremlin, trolling “Western” sites with his pro-Putin propaganda, he came back with a stupid question for Kök Böri to divert attention from what I had just revealed about him, because he can:


Victor: October 27, 2024 Is Belarus a non-White country?
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Reminds me of a quote by Mr. Hitler: “Important facts lay all around people’s feet, yet they refuse to look down [and act on them].”
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Post by Will Williams » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:52 pm

I'm noticing more solid, serious racial thinkers like Mr. Gould on C-C the longer I hang out there: https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/th ... 9-26-2024/

Will Williams: October 29, 2024
Joe Gould: October 29, 2024 We Whites don’t need right wing thinking… For our race to survive we need ruling establishments that don’t define friend and foe in class terms, with the vast majority of us Whites being seen by “the best” as enemies and non-Whites such as Jews being seen as valid allies against
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Well put! Thanks, Joe. What have “the best” done for our race lately?
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Post by Will Williams » Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:55 am

Rather than let an extraordinary comment that promotes William Pierce as a great leader of our race be buried under this essay encouraging C-C readers to vote for Donald Trump, I bumped Wolf Stoner's comment to insure it at least gets a second notice: https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/co ... es-really/



Will Williams: October 31, 2024
Thanks, Wolf. It can’t hurt to emphasize to C-C readers the important position William Pierce occupies in any discussion about preservation of the White race.

While Judeophile Donald Trump is stupidly being called “Hitler and a “Nazi” by Jew-controlled media and his simple-minded Democrat Party opponents — we should wish, Hitler was arguably the greatest racial leader of our race in the first half of the last century and before. Pierce will be recognized as our greatest racial leader of the second half of the 20th century and since. Of whom else can that be said? Maybe the Jew-controlled media and Democrat nitwits should be trying to scare the electorate by calling Trump William Pierce instead of Adolf Hitler.
Wolf Stoner: October 29, 2024 William Luther Pierce has a special place and hardly could be categorized using a common yardstick. The similar situation is with Adolf Hitler, whom it is hardly possible to compare with any other politician. It is the rarest kind of people whose meaning transcends all mundane values and perceptions…

Adolf Hitler is a kind of man whose meaning goes far above his immediate life. He was an incarnation of the White racial spirit. The real Christ of the White race. We can understand the logic of those events only when looking through this prism. The new racial religion is being born in great pain. It couldn’t be otherwise. All great things require great pain and great sacrifices.

William Luther Pierce was the man of the same mold. In some sense his task was even harder than this of Adolf Hitler. Dr. Pierce started to act at the time of relative quietude and prosperity; the worst time for any spiritual efforts and elevated thoughts. He was almost a lone man in a wilderness trying to wake up his race to its senses. There are very few people who have courage to act in such social conditions. It would be much easier for him to live a middle-class life like all others did.

In contrast to all others racially aware politicians Dr. Pierce understood the religious nature of this struggle. But he rejected Christianity as the foundation for racial ideology. The courageous step that was impossible even to consider for anyone aspiring for any place in nationalist politics back then.

Dr. Pierce was a pioneer in many respects. He said things that were inconceivable for others at the time. His judgement was proved to be right. His ideas and vision are even more relevant now. William Luther Pierce wasn’t a politician; and, definitely, he wasn’t a popular blogger. He was a religious preacher and visionary first and foremost; a Prophet of the White race,,,

Yes, in addition to this Dr. Pierce dedicated much of his time and efforts to politics. But he always understood the right set of priorities. The spiritual/religious foundation must always be the first. It must always take precedence of all other things. Neither selfish considerations, nor political expediency, nor desire to please anyone in particular must be the guiding principle of the White racial vanguard. For the race to succeed it must be guided by an immutable spiritual ideal. This understanding defined the whole of Dr. Pierce’s work. He has shown the right path to follow; he established the pattern for all White racial groups on the Planet. He aimed much higher than any other racial leaders… The only identity that really matters is the racial identity. It is the most important factor of life. Only combination of biological identity with spirituality will allow the better part of the White people to create something that surpasses everything that was before.

To follow along this path, you need to abandon the mundane logic and mainstream middle-class set of values. Those materialistic values like a stone on your neck would inevitably drive you down. There are very few people who could dare to do it. It is a hard choice. Only the best few could go along this path….
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Post by Will Williams » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:18 am

Under this essay that complains about alien gangs of illegal invaders into the country, I saw a chance to introduce C-C readers to our SEND THEM BACK. - They can't make White babies. sticker. Illegal immigrants isn't so much about increase in crime, fentanyl, sex-trafficking, etc., but about the racial bottom line and biological fact that Whites are being replaced by non-Whites who cannot make White babies.

C-C does not allow images to be placed in comments, so I tried to include a link to the image of our sticker: https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/th ... -expansion


Will Williams: October 31, 2024 at 3:41 pm
Danny elder: October 30, 2024 They need to be shipped back to whatever hell hole they’re from or be “dealt with.” At this point I don’t care which. I’m sick of hearing gibberish constantly and seeing brown “people” everywhere.
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Post by Will Williams » Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:49 pm

If there are there better testimonials promoting Dr. William Pierce than by Wolf Stoner and now here by Douglas Mercer in a C-C discussion "On William Pierce" from a C-C podcast? I don't not know of any. https://counter-currents.com/2024/10/co ... es-really/


Will Williams: October 31, 2024 While we’re discussing the “On William Pierce” portion of this C-C podcast, readers might find the following from back in July from the great Douglas Mercer:
WILLIAM LUTHER PIERCE is the greatest racial thinker of all time; his precursors such as Madison Grant were prophets and showed us the way, but as they still lived in the time of White ascendancy, they were unable to fully see all the dangers that were to come.

George Lincoln Rockwell deserves all of our praise, but he was a swashbuckler and a performer and did not have the intellectual weight of Pierce, something which is necessary to see us through dark times.

Revilo Oliver was an unparalleled intellectual; it is said of him that he had the mind and the manners of a Renaissance prince or polymath combined with the untethered and weaponized language needed to decimate our opponents; Oliver was also not a religious man and as such was unable to go all the way down the path needed.

Pierce was of another ilk; a true intellectual, but a practical one also, concerned with our survival in the real world — and here his background in physics held him in good stead. But in addition to being a thinker and writer and speaker, Pierce was also a visionary, a seer and a holy man, the prophet of our time; he always kept his eyes on eternity; he knew that our destiny was in the stars and that in order to achieve this we needed to plan for the long future. He knew that, for our Creator, the Aryan race was its special and Promethean people; the only people who could bring the Creator’s fire to the Earth and usher in the completion of the cosmos. As such, Pierce, in addition to being a polemicist of rare vehemence, and an artist in words, was also a far-seeing man with the organizational skills to prepare for this endless future.

The National Alliance is now the vessel of the Creator on Earth, its members the worthy heirs of Pierce’s philosophy and religion — the only ones on the path.

All throughout American history, the idea of Utopian or intentional communities has been prevalent; there was Brooks Farm of the Transcendentalists; but our great precursor Poe saw their un-serious nature and their other flaws, and scathingly called them “frog-pondians.”

In our own time, such “communes” are more likely to be of the ilk of “Burning Man” — dedicated only to pleasure and frivolity; or like Jonestown, monuments to one man’s ego, ending in death and destruction. But the impulse to separate, to keep oneself pure, is a noble one; and the National Alliance has first and foremost kept its thought pure with its book Cosmotheism: Religion of the Future and its other equally uncompromising publications; it is building this separate community, and building a library dedicated to its founder and its ideals; it is a community dedicated to keeping the White race pure, and keeping it separate.

Any hope for the future depends upon us being thus separate — in more ways than one; the world today is addicted to its phones and its money and its greed, and is mired in corruption; it has no culture to speak of; it is steeped in immorality and degeneration and degradation; its rulers are vampires and bloodsuckers when they are not inept stooges; it is a world with no beliefs other than “lifestyles” or “comfort” — a fake world of the Potemkin Village. It preaches a weak form of “love and tolerance” and has race mixing as its credo. It has no purpose and no goal, other than political or economic domination; as such, it is a desecration of our lovely blue Earth.

Unlike all previous Utopias or intentional communities the National Alliance community is bound to succeed; the blood is pure and the thinking is pure. And it has aligned itself correctly with the cosmos and the Creator of the cosmos; when the time is right and ripe, this perfect confluence will bear its fruit.

Indeed, so rotten is the world from which we have separated ourselves, it will collapse from within, having no vision and no goal except to produce more and more trash of all kinds.

As such, the National Alliance is uniquely positioned to be the inheritor of the Earth and to achieve the only thing that matters in the end: victory….


Read more of Mr. Mercer “On William Pierce” here: “The Vessel” at nationalvanguard.org
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Post by Will Williams » Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:26 pm

National Vanguard discovered this same dipshit troll "Victor" trolling our site which I exposed to C-C, yet C-C still allows him to queer discussion about Russian nationalism, promoting this same fellow Sevastianov on its site, while knowing he is a troll on American sites for the Kremlin. https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/ru ... morphosis/

In what was a well-intended symposium C-C did on William Pierce 12 years ago: https://counter-currents.com/2012/04/th ... am-pierce/ -- note the Covingtonista troll Fourmyle de Ceres' final comment under that. Why would the so-called "largest pro-White discussion board in the world" leave up such a comment for 12 years, much less have ever allowed it to pass moderation? Fourmyle is #12 on C-C's Top 100 Commenters list with more than 1,000 comments.
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Victor: October 31, 2024 Mr. Kök Böri, I suspect that you are not an ethnic Russian. Then it’s strange that you hate President Putin so much.
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Kök, whatever his ethnicity, is a respected, sincere contributor to Counter-Currents.

You, however, have been exposed as a mouthpiece for the Kremlin who trolls western discussion boards spreading your anti-ethnic Russian nonsense. Putin is opposed to ethnic Russian nationalists. That is an established fact.

Wolf Stoner, a bone fide ethnic Russian nationalist, knows firsthand about your so-called “nationalist” Sevastianov, providing his experience with him under this article on 10 October — yet you are still allowed to push the Kremlin’s anti-nationalist agenda to confuse and spread doubt:

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Victor: October 10, 2024 What about Alexander Sevastianov?

Wolf Stoner: October 10, 2024 The Putinist under alias “Victor” tries his best to push the nefarious Kremlin’s agenda here. It makes sense if he does it for money. If he does it for free, he is simply a fool. No one sensible man would believe all this informational trash that is spewed from Kremlin’s media.

A few words about a supposed “nationalist” Sevastianov. I know this man since early 2000s when he and his followers tried to create a mighty all-Russia nationalist party (Национально-Державная Партия России – NDPR) that would unite all existing minor parties and movements. The ideology of this party was as incoherent as the crowd of followers of this party. Obviously, the best elements of the Russian NS movement rejected this silly project with disdain. They have seen it at once as an attempt of adroit Moscow patriotic intelligentsia to use nationalist sentiments of Russian society in order to advance their own social positions. Sevastianov seriously hoped to gain foothold in a State Duma.

At this time I participated in one of the NS groups engaged in real struggle. One of the emissaries of NDPR had contacted us in 2002 with suggestion of working for this party. The essence of their offer was to use us as enforcers without any say on political matters. Certainly, we have rejected this proposal outright.

The ambitious NDPR project has miserably failed in 2003. The real nationalists continued their struggle against the authoritarian Putinist regime; the self-appointed “nationalist elite” like Sevastianov, eventually, preferred to work for the system and parrot its vile imperialist propaganda.

The ideology of Sevastianov is a hodgepodge from imperial Russia, Stalinism and Orthodoxy; nothing original or new. Presumptuous emptiness; the lesser brother of Dugin.

It is enough to say that Sevastianov is an ardent supporter of the genocidal war against Ukraine and even now he calls for capture of Odessa and Kharkov at any cost.

For his faithful service Sevastianov was awarded by Russian government a medal “For liberation of Crimea and Sevastopol”.
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Post by Will Williams » Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:18 pm

I'd noticed my comment in this discussion about conservatism a month ago was the last word, so bumped it before comments are closed: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/co ... e-america/ Who knows whether the yappers at C-C will bother to read "Why Conservatives Can't Win"?

This classic is required reading for all Alliance members and supporters to understand why the greater White "movement" has been failing for decades: it's conservative, but what has it been conserving?



Will Williams: November 2, 2024 In any discussion of Conservatism by Whites determined to preserve their kind, this classic of wisdom on the subject by WLP deserves a bump until it sinks in:
I’ll post again Dr. William Pierce’s 53-year-old, but timeless “Why Conservatives Can’t Win” at nationalvanguard.org:

Revolutionary Advantage

Conservatives cannot win because the enemy to which they are opposed is a revolutionary enemy – an enemy with revolutionary goals and guided by a revolutionary way of life.

The advantage has always lain – and will always lie – on the side of the contender who is prepared to take the offensive, rather than maintaining a defensive position only. And the evolutionary natures of the conservative and the revolutionary determine that the one shall always play an essentially defensive role and the other an offensive role.

Besieged vs. Besieger


The offensive-defensive dichotomy does not apply absolutely to tactics, of course, but it does to strategy. The conservative may launch brief counterattacks – he may sally forth from his fortress to harry his revolutionary besieger – but in the long run he is always the besieged and the revolutionary the besieger.

The goal of the conservative is to protect what is, or, at the extreme, to restore what recently was. The goal of the revolutionary is to radically transform what is, or to do away with it altogether, so that it can be replaced by something entirely different…
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