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[Will Williams]

Dave Chambers is a young man who wrote a very good article here on his awakening to White racial loyalty: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/th ... d-my-life/. My comment is about Whites need to be tougher, more morally courageous. Dr. Pierce's commentary to Alliance members nearly 50 years ago in the NA BULLETIN gives a reason Germany lost WWII is worth reading today: https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/03/th ... al-enough/

Next time, no Mr. Nice Guy

Will Williams: September 7, 2024

Francis XB: September 6, 2024 Something useful would be a reading-movie list for high school students as an alternative to the “Kill a Mockingbird” party line. The challenge is to find material that is both suitable for younger people and not too preachy….

Any more ideas?
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First, your essay is very good, Mr. Chambers. It’s a shame that you’ve had to grow up in multiracial America where you’re required to walk on eggshells so as not to offend Jews, other non-Whites and their collaborators because what you believe is “unsuitable” if expressed out loud.

Whites’, young and old, fear of “doxing” seems irrational to me. Hiding one’s beliefs is like moral cowardice. In these critical times we should/must be proud to be racial loyalists. If we fear losing our jobs or careers for saying with confidence what we believe and owning our words, we’ve probably chosen the wrong career path. Become independent.

What we must do is separate ourselves from the multiracial, anti-White mess and not trying to balance our views with “To Kill a Mockingbird” trash. Half measures will not do.

I’ve never regretted speaking my mind racially and have never been “doxed” for doing so. What’s to fear? It doesn’t take courage. Many Whites cannot believe this incident from my high school days. That’s their problem, not mine: “California ‘Anti-Racism’” at nationalvanguard.org.

[Will Williams]

Clarissa Schnabel, who is probably German, writes about a democratic election there that gives a measure of false hope to long-suffering Whites: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/te ... n-germany/


Will Williams: September 8, 2024

Clarissa: [P]essimism more often than not is realism.
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“Liked” for truth.

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Kök Böri: September 8, 2024 Nothing will help Europeans (and Americans too) anymore, because the Western civilisation is already dead. You just do not want to see and to accept it.
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Your statement in bold is true. Kök, and is realistic, but without solution, totally defeatist. There is a solution, a simple one.

Forget dead Western civilization. Though built by many successive generations of racially loyal Whites, the “West” no longer represents preservation of those builders or of their posterity: us.

The White race is hurting but its fate is nowhere yet terminal. Forget mass democracy — it, too, is dead.

Determined, eligible Whites will separate from other races and from the present-day, Judaized, so-called “West,” so loved by Christian conservative losers.

The reality is that our struggle is biological and must conform to Nature’s highest laws: survival of one’s kind.

[Will Williams]

A good review by young C-C writer Dave Chambers of Tony Martin's biography of American Black separatist Marcus Garvey: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/ma ... tionalism/. I get to point to NA's attempt to build a bridge to Farrakhan's Nation of Islam years ago.


Will Williams: September 9, 2024 at 4:06 pm
Good review of Mr. Martin’s important book, Dave. You correctly concluded:

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… If equally “race first” whites [sic] had been in control of the federal government at the time, it seems entirely possible that cooperation between Black and White Nationalists would have finally brought America’s race problem to a satisfactory resolution.
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We White racial separatists certainly do not want our sisters or our daughters to marry Blacks, but that doesn’t preclude our cooperating with serious Black racial separatists on a common separatist goal, and working together to some extent to oppose integrationists, Jews and JOG opposition to our goals.

29 years ago, I at least tried, and for a while after our “debate” worked with the Nation of Islam’s official historian, including carrying their excellent book The Special Relationship Between Blacks and Jews and their carrying some of our titles.

See: “Forward Vision” at nationalvanguard.org — “fairly described as a Jewish media controller’s worst nightmare: Two nationalists of different races agreeing on the importance of racial separation, the evils of integration and miscegenation, and the dangers posed by Jewish media control.”

[Will Williams]

A follow-up under Dave Chambers review of the Marcus Garvey biography: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/ma ... tionalism/


Will Williams: September 16, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Consider that the NOI is not only a Black separatist organization but:

1) Opposes race-mixing

2) Criticizes the Jewish power structure

3) Was/is willing to work with determined White separatists against Jews

That could be a step in the right direction. Garvey was opposed by integrationists and the JOG.

Flel: September 9, 2024 … [Blacks] can have most of GA and LA or SC as far as I’m concerned. Every other minority should be granted a one time chance to carve out a small self ruled state within the Deep South since we don’t want them spread around the country. I know it’s a pipe dream…
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Get real, Flel. A “pipedream” is an unrealistic fantasy, often associated with opium smoking.

You obviously are not a White southerner. You might have difficulty forcing southern Whites from their homeland to be replaced by Negroes. Why not pen them up in Detroit, Oakland, East St. Louis or other cities they’ve already occupied? Better yet, support a Back to Africa movement by Black separatists.

[Will Williams]

Stephen Paul Foster writes about the small town of Springfield, Ohio, that has been overwhelmed by invasive Haitian immigrants: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/harriss-haitians/. A good opportunity for me to link to NV articles about Haiti and to mention when I confronted Haiti's former president about the "necklacing" of his political rivals.


Will Williams: September 17, 2024 Your comment is awaiting moderation.

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Sending the 20,000 Haitians back home is what the federal government should do…
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Don’t hold your breath, Mr. Foster, waiting for the JOG to do what it should do.

Richard Parker: September 16, 2024 I am fairly convinced the allegations about Haitians eating cats are true. I am less sure about dogs.
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Haitians will be eating Springfield’s dogs and cats before their replacement of that town’s Whites is over. All of those that say they don’t eat household pets will also deny that Haitians murdered every White person on the island of Haili 325+/- years ago before they murdered the mixed-race Coloreds. Readers should learn the racial truth of Haiti’s history. See:

“The True Story of Haiti — and the Mass Murder of Whites Under Black Rule” at nationalvanguard.org.

In a comment under that article, I tell of my interesting meeting with Haiti’s murderous former President, Aristide:

More about Haiti, here: https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/09/what-haiti-proves/ and here: https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/05/th ... -of-haiti/

Excerpt from the second linked article:
“…Clinton’s friend [Jean-Bertrand] Aristide, on the other hand, was said to be a ‘democrat’ and a respecter of human rights. Actually, Aristide is a former priest turned Marxist whose idea of respecting human rights is to incite mobs of his supporters to murder his political opponents by breaking their arms, wiring a gasoline-soaked tire around their necks, and burning them to death — a procedure known as “necklacing.”

While representing the National Alliance I had the pleasure of confronting President Aristide before a crowd of couple thousand of his fans about 20 years ago, asking him if he could define “necklacing” for everybody and if he had actually said the quote in public about necklacing his enemies that I got to read in its entirety before my mic was shut off. That quote was from an even earlier article about Haiti by Dr. Pierce. Dr. Pierce wrote about that confrontation with Aristide in our monthly NA Members BULLETIN as an example of how to effectively use the enemy’s meetings to promote the Alliance’s message.

[Will Williams]

Another article and comments about the goddamned Haitian invaders in Springfield, Ohio, eating the traditional residents' household pets: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/he ... -our-pets/ I got to link to Dr. Pierce's own description of The Turner Diaries and the actual "dangerous" message he got across in his novel. Some C-C readers will go to the National Vanguard link to read more.

Will Williams: September 19, 2024

Scott: September 18, 2024 …I think we simply lack leadership. On the other hand, it is very hard to bootstrap such leadership from nothing, or almost nothing.

In the… novel, The Turner Diaries, the author Dr. William L. Pierce comes up with a kind of deus ex machina** for the win. The rebels capture nuclear weapons and missiles and suddenly they are players.

** deus ex machina (noun) – an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.
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I had to look that one up, Scott. The Turner Diaries is fiction, a novel. Our enemies — the Jew and his collaborators — did not like that the White protagonists prevail in TD. Our type is not supposed to ever prevail.

It wasn’t because Earl Turner pulled an heroic kamikaze attack on JOG with a nuclear warhead in a crop-duster aircraft that they fear TD. They fear TD because it inspires some racially responsible Whites, including that leadership you say we simply lack, to organize and fight. Dr. Pierce explains:

I wrote the book not just as entertainment, not just as an attempt to predict what would happen in America in the next 20 years, but I also had a message. I think that message is a dangerous one for the people who are controlling the American government, and for the people who are setting the propaganda line of the mass media in this country. I think it’s very dangerous for them. I think they should be very concerned because, if that message reaches a large enough number of people in this country and is taken to heart, they will be in a very dangerous situation indeed.

The central message of the book is that every self-respecting adult has to accept his responsibility for what’s going on in the world around him. He has to accept his responsibility as a guardian, as a caretaker, of his people’s heritage. He has to accept his responsibility for what the future will be like, for the type of world that his children and grandchildren will live in. He has to start being a participant instead of an observer. And I think that if a large enough number of people take that message to heart, this whole house of cards that has been misgoverning and misinforming our people for so long can be brought tumbling down….
Source: “WLP91: All His Waking Hours, part 2” at nationalvanguard.com

[Will Williams]

Responding to excellent young writer Dave Chamber's comment under Jim Goad's article about the pet-eating Haitian invaders in Springfield, Ohio: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/le ... -is-white/ Hopefully, Dave will not take offense at my correction of his misuse of a plural pronoun following the singular subject, "someone," in his comment. The feminization of pronouns was one of Dr. Pierce's pet peeves.


Will Williams: September 20, 2024 ...Aiden Clark’s father told the courtroom he didn’t want his son’s death to be exploited by the racist creeps who traffic in “hate”.

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Dave Chambers: September 20, 2024 … I suggest that if someone is telling you not to “hate” or is attacking you as a “hater”, they (sic) are likely doing so precisely because they (sic) wish to trick you into accepting otherwise disgusting and intolerable conditions…
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True. Some of us race-thinkers cannot be tricked into believing bullshit spouted by imbeciles like Mr. Clark.

Not to nitpick, Dave, but don’t fall for the popular feminization of pronouns. Any indefinite pronoun that ends in “one” is always singular. If the gender of the antecedent subject is not given, a masculine pronoun (he) is called for. The femlibs hate it when we follow old accepted grammar rules like that.

[Will Williams]

Enough whining about pet-eating Haitians. https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/le ... -is-white/ A good chance to introduce the subject of the improper use of pronouns that even some on our side have accepted. A link given to WLP's "Feminization of America."


Will Williams: September 21, 2024

Stronza: September 20, 2024 I tend to use “he or she” instead of just “he” or just “she” unless there is a reason to think that only males or only females are involved.
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That is considered acceptable and I’ve done the same in certain cases, but it can be considered a cop-out to please a certain class of humanity that has come to oppose us who reject feminism.

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Some folks think that is awkward and that I should substitute “they” and “their” but I’m still struggling with that. It does probably irritate a certain class of humanity. It all depends on whom you are talking with or writing to. No need to make enemies is my thinking; we have to know when we would be endangering ourselves by using “he” no matter what.
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Ours is a masculine movement, Stronza, opposed to the feminization of our traditional culture, including our language. We shouldn’t worry about offending “non-binary” freaks who believe males should be able to use females’ bathrooms and compete against females in sports. They will oppose us, even hate us for not going along with their agenda. Dr. Pierce addressed that, here: “WLP90: The Feminization of America” at nationalvanguard.org

Where should we draw the line? Should a transsexual be an “it” or maybe a “they?”

I heard a comedian point out the absurdity of improperly using a plural pronoun:

A soldier was in the trench with his fellow combatants. He excitedly shouted out to them, “Here they come!” Turns out there was just a lone enemy approaching. No reason to panic to please the pronoun police.

[Will Williams]

Is this fellow this dense? https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/le ... -is-white/ Now is the time for all serious White race-thinkers to get serious.


Will Williams: September 21, 2024

cd: September 21, 2024 it is an election year in the US.

We will vote our way out of this. really.
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Too late for that, cd. Really. Mass democracy is no solution.

Strict racial separation is the only solution. Leave Aiden Clark and his brain damaged ilk out of our separatist communities. They have their own communities where we are not welcome. That's a start.

[Will Williams]

Our own Douglas Mercer weighed in with multiple expert comments under part 2 of this 15-part series by Collin Cleary: https://counter-currents.com/2024/09/he ... y-of-evil/. Douglas promotes not only William Pierce but his Cosmotheism which is an extension of Pantheism, a subject of Cleary's part-2 essay.


Will Williams: September 21, 2024

[Schelling’s] model was not a German at all, it was the Dutch Jew Baruch Spinoza (1632-1677). Spinoza equated the whole with God, and therefore claimed that all things are immanent within God. By contrast, traditional [Jewish] theology maintained that God is absolutely distinct from nature. Spinoza completely rejects this, arguing that nature (“extension”) and thought are the two primary modes of God’s being.

[P]roponents of orthodoxy accused Spinoza of collapsing the distinction between God and nature, which they took to be a denial of God. Spinozism was therefore equated with atheism. As a consequence of this, and other matters, Spinoza was officially “excommunicated” from the Jewish community of Amsterdam in 1656.[6] More sympathetic critics equated Spinoza’s position with “pantheism,..”

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Thanks for your erudite comments under part 2 of this 15-part series, Mr. Mercer, particularly Kevin Strom’s quote about William Pierce:

Douglas Mercer: September 21, 2024 William Pierce knew that we are made of the same stuff as the Earth and the stars, that we are the expanding consciousness of an evolving Universe, and that your soul is, in a very profound sense, the soul of the Universe itself. If you had to encapsulate William Pierce’s life in a single sentence, it would be: He saw that the purpose of life is the increase of consciousness; he saw that our race was the leading edge and the living agent of that increase in consciousness; and he dedicated his life to the preservation and advancement of our kind. This view of ourselves as agents of evolving Life — and Life itself as an agent of an as-yet dimly seen force immanent in the Earth and in the Cosmos itself is the heart of his philosophy. –Kevin Alfred Strom

You may be aware that William Pierce commented on the Jew Spinoza’s alleged early pantheism 47 years ago, here: “WLP86: William Pierce on Cosmotheism, Wave of the Future” on nationalvanguard.org.

It would be as unnatural and awkward for a Jew to try to set himself up as a Cosmotheist as it would be for a White man to set himself up as a Talmudist and try to debate the rabbis on points of Talmudic doctrine. After all, a Jew, Baruch Spinoza, was one of the foremost expounders of pantheism in the 17th century, at a time when that was hardly a safe or a popular position for anyone to take. He was, in fact, excommunicated by his fellow Jews as a consequence. But because Spinoza was a Jew, he couldn’t help but give a Jewish flavor, a Jewish interpretation, to his pantheism. In particular, the ethical conclusions that he drew from his pantheism were strictly Jewish, and I think it’s only fair to assume that Spinoza had no ulterior motive…