Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin

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Re: Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin

Post by Cosmotheist » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:18 pm

Cosmotheism is Tomorrow's Religion
today for our White Race and it is a
modern form of Panentheism.

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PS--And also see this excellent article and all commentary here:
http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-need ... -religion/

The Need For A New Religion
Published by Max Musson on 2013/03/19 | 80 Comments
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The Big Bang

We live in a world in which many people have a dark sense of foreboding. Particularly in Western European countries where we have experienced better times within living memory, there is a feeling that many facets of our lives are deteriorating and have been relentlessly deteriorating for several decades at least.

In material terms we appear to be better off than ever before and yet the material benefits themselves do not seem to adequately compensate for less welcome changes and the sense that somehow our civilisation is in decay. Also the greater awareness of environmental and demographic factors means that we are conscious of the fact that we in the West are ‘living beyond our means’ and beyond the means of our planet to sustain indefinitely. We are told that mankind is already consuming natural resources at a rate faster than our planet can renew them and therefore there exists a sense of guilt in one’s enjoyment of our apparently greater material wealth.

The rise of rationalism and science as the fonts of human wisdom and knowledge and the marginalisation of traditional Western religious beliefs, witnessed by the decline of particularly Christian religious adherence, is a sign of a decline in the spiritual health and well-being of our people. Our place in the world, our place in time and any sense of purpose in life have become blurred as religious belief has declined, to be replaced by a soulless philosophy based upon individuality, liberalism, materialism and personal self-gratification.

Despite our release from previous religious constraints and despite all of our attempts to submerge ourselves in lives of hedonistic pleasures, maximising our personal self-gratification through the new freedoms of individuality and liberalism, in conjunction with our apparently growing material wealth, we still see all around us growing signs of social decay and dysfunction. In the West higher rates of social dysfunction manifest now than at almost any other time in living memory; high rates of violent crime, muggings, rapes and murders; high rates of drug and alcohol abuse; high rates of prostitution; high rates child physical and sexual abuse; high rates of suicide; yes, high and steadily increasing rates of all forms of delinquency and social dysfunction.

We sense, as I have already alluded to, a feeling that even our apparent growing material wealth cannot possibly continue. We are constantly reminded nowadays that we live in a world of finite resources and one of uncontrollable population growth. Already we are informed that for the whole of humanity to enjoy a standard of living equivalent to that enjoyed in advanced Western countries, we will need several planet earths to provide the natural resources required. Obviously therefore, such a state of worldwide parity with the Western nations is impossible unless someone devises a new almost magic method of conjuring wealth and energy out of nothing or discovers some, as yet undiscovered, unknown and limitless source of raw materials and the fossil fuels such parity would require.

Increasingly, we stumble from one crisis to another, only to find that corrupt and inept governments fail us, both in terms of managing the present and in terms of providing inspiration and solutions for what will come and the problems that we see looming. All too often our political leaders are shown to be men and women without vision, lacking any coherent mission and completely devoid of moral scruples. All too often, even when they are not corrupt at the outset, they become corrupted by the spiritual wasteland that our world has become, choosing eventually to enjoy the power and wealth that political office and influence provides with no real care for the direction we are taking.

Traditionally the role of the religions of the world has been to provide a ‘glue’ holding communities together, to provide a means by which rulers can control their subjects, to set moral boundaries to regulate the lives of people and to give them a sense of belonging to something or some cause that is greater than them and which gives their lives direction and meaning. Increasingly however, the scriptures have come to be seen as mere folk tales, of at best symbolic value, and with scant historic validity. Creation stories have been shown to be at variance with modern scientific opinion regarding the origins of the Universe. Furthermore, religious strictures have been revealed as arbitrary constraints, of little but symbolic significance in the modern age and belief in Christianity in particular, is at an all time low among the Western nations.

We live lives of apparently growing material wealth but in a spiritual, moral and ethical wasteland, life for us has no apparent purpose, values are all apparently subjective, transient and illusory. Friedrich Nietzsche in his ‘The Gay Science’ declared that “God is dead”, but what is to become of us if the vacuum left by the demise of the Christian God is not filled by something else?

Today, most intelligent people reject traditional religions as aberrant pre-modern belief systems. Simply put, traditional religions appear to be assemblages of mythic stories propounding belief in anthropomorphic Gods, whose existence, either now or in the past is at best improbable and is in any event seen as irrelevant now in our modern age. Some religions, such a Buddhism assert as the ultimate goal in life the achievement of a state of inner peace that can only be achieved through a renunciation of self and one’s natural urges.

In short these religions fail to provide a credible explanation of; who we are; how we got where we are today; how we relate to the rest of creation; and what purpose there is in life; in a way that connects with the restless, Faustian spirit of Western man and our instinctive ethnocentricity.

Evolutionary psychologists such as Professor Bruce G. Charlton would argue that traditional religions fail because they lack a complete cosmology. Charlton has written that “[a] cosmology is a mythical account of the universe as it presents itself to the human mind; it needs to be poetic, symbolic, inspiring a sense of awe and mystery. Furthermore, a complete cosmology should include three levels of macro-, meso- and microcosm, in order to understand the nature of the universe, human society, and the individual’s relation to them”.

Traditional cosmologies according to Charlton, describe a “static ideal state towards which the world ought to gravitate”. He obviously has in mind here as examples, the state of ‘Nirvana’ or the attainment of the ‘Kingdom of God on Earth’. “However, modern life is characterised by rapid fluidity of all kinds of structures, including innovation and destruction, and growth in complexity of communications without a pre-established end-point. We do not know where we are going, yet we are accelerating towards it.”

“Because people do not have a basic symbolic understanding of the modern world and modern humanity’s place in it, they experience conflict between their cosmology and what they observe and experience. This mismatch between traditional cosmology and contemporary actuality is alienating. Consequently the modern world is frequently perceived as chaotic, meaningless, declining or collapsing”.

Reflecting the essentially European character of his own psyche, Charlton concludes, “A modern cosmology therefore needs to be focused on underlying process instead of structure, on dynamism rather than stasis. If modern individuals become able to develop mythic understanding of the evolutionary nature of things-in-general then their experience of change will match their deepest expectations. Consequently, people may be more likely to feel ‘at home’ in the world and broadly optimistic about the future.”

Through Cosmotheism, which I regard as scientific paganism, I belief that it is possible to establish a complete cosmology that meets all of the prerequisites set out above, which presents a compelling new world view that is wholly consistent with the spirit of Western man, which is consistent with current science and which has the capacity to evolve and adapt and remain credible as our scientific knowledge advances. I will expand upon this in future posts.

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Re: Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin

Post by NoLongerSilentUSA » Fri May 01, 2015 6:09 am


http://nationalvanguard.org/2013/07/dis ... smotheism/

Robert S. Griffin wrote:Pierce says in his talk that the pantheistic tradition is central to the history of the white race in Europe. Before Christianity was exported to Europe by the expanding Roman Empire, he asserts, European religions stressed the oneness of God and man. He says that this emphasis contrasted with the Christian church’s dichotomous conception which emphasizes God and man’s distinction and separation from each other.

I'm still reading the article, but I wanted to quote this here because I'm finding common ground with William Pierce on his spiritual beliefs, a pantheistic view that emphasizes the oneness of God (which I define as our source of life) and man.

Robert S. Griffin wrote:Cosmotheism is the union of the Creator’s immanent consciousness, what our reason and senses tell us about ourselves and the world, and the findings of science. In addition, offers Pierce, Cosmotheism is in accord with the truth that comes from deep within us if we are willing to attend to it, from our genes, from our collective race-soul.

This is also a good quote.

Robert S. Griffin wrote:The best way around that state of affairs, says Pierce, is to break our isolation from one another and to form a community of “consciousness and blood.”

We can do this.

Robert S. Griffin wrote:A shorthand way of describing the end result of Pierce’s formulations is that Cosmotheism is essentially what Shaw had to say in Man and Superman with a National Socialist twist to it.

I like that twist! See The Greatest Story Never Told here:
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv

Robert S. Griffin wrote:As with Shaw’s Life Force, there is a dynamic quality to the concept of the Creator in Cosmotheism. The Creator more than just is, more than just exists, more than just began it all and now watches and judges or selectively intervenes in earthly affairs; the Creator is a force and is definitely going someplace. Pierce uses the term Urge to get at that dimension of the Creator. The direction the Urge is seeking to travel in Cosmotheist doctrine is the same as Shaw’s Life Force: toward self-consciousness, self-understanding, and self-completion. And as in Shaw’s formulation, there is a dynamic quality in Cosmotheism to man’s relationship with the Creator. It isn’t simply a matter of being with the Creator or integrating with It; it is a matter of doing with the Creator. And again as in Shaw, that doing takes the form of serving the Creator by being Its brain and taking action to further Its process.

At first, "the Creator" conjures up an image of an entity that created the universe, but I see an alternate definition that works even if people don't want to believe in a creation scenario. Consider this: We are one with our source of life, and our source of life is evolving and gaining consciousness through us like an embryo gains consciousness as it grows into a baby. In this scenario, the Creator is not yet conscious, but it will become conscious when we fully awaken as a conscious unified collective. The Creator is our collective consciousness that creates things in this world through us when we tap into it and awaken it. It has the Urge to become fully self-aware and persistent as a consciousness alive in many minds simultaneously, and this will happen when we fully realize our oneness with the Creator and unite with each other. With this view, one might say our purpose is to create the Creator by bringing it to life as a fully self-aware collective consciousness within ourselves.

Robert S. Griffin wrote:Those who attain Divine Consciousness will ascend the Path of Life toward their Destiny, which is Godhood; which is to say, the Path of Life leads upward through a never-ending succession of states, the next of which is that of higher man, and the ultimate that of the Self-Realized Creator.

This idea has a nice parallel in Hinduism, where one achieves Moksha (God-consciousness and liberation from false perceptions, which is what the Hindu swastika symbolizes) when one fully realizes their oneness with God.

Beyond caste, creed, family or lineage,
That which is without name and form, beyond merit and demerit,
That which is beyond space, time and sense-objects,
You are that, God himself; Meditate this within yourself. ||Verse 254||
—Vivekachudamani, 8th Century AD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
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Re: Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin

Post by Cosmotheist » Fri May 01, 2015 8:02 am

NLSU said:

It has the Urge to become fully self-aware and persistent as a consciousness alive in many minds simultaneously,
and this will happen when we fully realize our oneness with the Creator and unite with each other.
With this view, one might say our purpose is to create the Creator by bringing it to life as a fully
self-aware collective consciousness within ourselves.


Eureka! :D

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Thou art of That!
Enlightenment!
Satori!
Divine and Cosmic Consciousness all within!
As it is above, so is it below!

It is us! We are within it!
It is Consciousness, itself!
Every last bit of it is it!



The experiencer ALWAYS co-creates via a Consciousness
that's all within ones own self and all within all in Cosmos
what's experienced, itself!



You got it! :D

Best regards,
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Re: Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin

Post by Ray W » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:32 pm

Goethe, on man's role as part of Nature:

"So long as one has no sense of the working and of the creative
activity of the idea, his thinking is divorced from living Nature. But
directly he senses the way in which the idea lives and is active in his
inner being, he regards himself and Nature as one Whole, and what
makes its appearance in his inner being as a subjective element is
for him at the same time objective; he knows that he no longer confronts
Nature as a stranger, but he feels that he has grown together with the
whole of her. The subjective has become the objective; the objective is
wholly permeated with the spirit."

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Re: Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin

Post by Wade Hampton III » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:35 pm

This is excellent! I had totally forgotten about this thread! Thanks Captain Williams, for reminding me!

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