Christianity and the Ethnic Suicide of the West

[Jim Pennington]

Kevin MacDonald

Several comments on my post “What’s wrong with the Swedes?” mention Christianity as a problem in the dispossession of Whites. I agree that Christianity is part of the problem, but I think there are several difficulties with supposing that it is a root cause of the problem.

First and foremost, Christianity was the religion of the West during its expansion around the world. A century ago, with the exception of China, Japan, Siam, Korea, Ethiopia, and Liberia, the rest of the planet was dominated by Christian Europeans. Christianity was at least consistent with this incredible expansion and with the very large increase in the European population that occurred during this period of expansion. If anything, the decline of the West has co-occurred with the decline of religion among Western elites. If the world had stayed the way it was in 1960, no one would be talking about the suicide of the West.

Christianity has been many things throughout the centuries—an ideology of ethnic defense during the Iberian Reconquista, a pillar of exploitative monarchies and aristocracies in Europe and Latin America, a force for ethnic defense against usurious exploitation of peasants by ethnic outsiders at times during the Middle Ages, supporting slavery and segregation in the American South and apartheid in South Africa. And there are also the Puritans, Quakers and several other Protestant sects that figure so prominently in my account. Christianity has not had a consistent message of ethnic suicide or moral universalism. People on both sides of the slave trade in 17th–18th-century Britain were Christian. Both sides of the American Civil War were Christian.

Throughout history, Christianity has been quite adept at rendering unto Caesar—accommodating to the powers that be. In the U.S. and I suppose elsewhere in the West, Christians had much more influence on culture prior to the 1960s and the rise of the secular left — e.g., spearheading the successful drive to rein in Hollywood depictions of sex and Christianity beginning in the 1920s. But all that ended with the cultural revolution of the 1960s which was certainly not Christian in inspiration. Right now, the powers that be are the secular, multi-cultural, pro-non-White-immigration left, and one of their main goals is the eradication of public displays of Christianity and traditional Christian views on marriage and the family. Christianity itself has been corrupted by the secular left, most obviously in the case of the Second Vatican Council but also including the mainline Protestant sects. The Church had stood for cultural conservatism and had been a bulwark against Jewish influence for centuries.

The contemporary zeitgeist of the left is not fundamentally Christian. If anything, it is hostile to Christianity. The driving force of the left is decidedly secular, and the only areas where Christian views are welcomed into the mainstream (e.g., Christian Zionism and adopting non-Whites, but not abortion, gay marriage, or a public culture of Christianity) is where their beliefs coincide with those of the secular left. Right now in America, the Whites who are most Christian are behaving in an implicitly White manner in voting Republican and expressing concerns about illegal immigration. (And I strongly suspect that they are implicitly opposed to legal immigration and would have no hesitation voting for a candidate who proposed restrictions on legal immigration or ending it entirely.) On the other hand, secular Whites are more likely to be politically liberal and vote Democrat, the party of the non-White coalition. For example, in the recent senatorial election in Louisiana, a hotbed of Christian religious conservatism, only 18 percent of Whites voted Democrat, while only 5% of Blacks voted Republican. The figures would be very different for the predominantly non-religious Whites in the San Francisco Bay region. The increasing polarization in American politics based on race, not religious ideology; secular Whites are least likely to vote along with the White majority.

I very much doubt that people like Ms. Wilkström are guided by their religious beliefs. Across Europe, only 5-6% of Europeans are actively connected to their religious tradition. Throughout Europe, this has been a top-down revolution promoted by secular elites on the left. Many of the ethnically European among these elites are at best culturally Christian but do not take their religion seriously or have strong connection to their religious traditions. Christianity is not the guiding force behind the policies of the EU. Certainly some forms of ethno-masochism are motivated by Christianity, such as the family that adopted the 8 Africans (although in my experience plenty of non-religious Whites have also adopted non-White children), but here again we see a version of Christianity that is entirely acceptable and even approved by the real powers that be; imagine what would happen if this family owned a business that refused to cater a gay wedding because they took Leviticus seriously. Certainly, the Swedish university students who are so eager to be submerged with diversity are not being inundated with Christianity in their studies, but rather with cultural Marxism. The question is why they are so eager to adopt an ideology of ethnic suicide.

If Christianity is thought to be to be a Levantine import and hence foreign to the ethnic and cultural proclivities of Europeans, it’s worth noting that moral universalism and proneness to guilt and ethno-masochism are certainly not aspects of the cultures of the Levant. Rather, cultures of the Middle East tend to break down into closed ethnic enclaves, as in Syria now and throughout the region, despite often (but certainly not always) adopting a common religious veneer. Historically, Christianity did indeed originate in the fourth century as a non-ethnic ideology capable of broad appeal in the polyethnic Roman Empire. The Church Fathers often complained about the biological fixation of the Jews with their concern for biological descent from Abraham (see previous link). If anything, Europeans need to be more like the peoples of the Levant with their concern for ethnic kinship and empathy restricted to ingroup members. For example, within traditional Jewish culture there is no tradition of universalist ethics or for empathy with suffering non-Jews. Christianity, as it developed in Europe, is a European invention.

The problem is clearly worse in the north of Europe—Sweden is a paradigmatic case. As an evolutionist and given the recent population genetic data and the northern European ethnic origins of the main movements toward moral universalism in America and UK, I think the case can be made for an underlying ethnic component.

Nevertheless, I am certainly not denying a role for cultural forces. As I note, the anti-White revolution is massively incentivized, so the self-interest of Whites — professors, religious leaders, politicians, media figures, and corporate honchos — coincides with going along with the program of White dispossession. It is clearly also the case that Whites throughout the West are being brain-washed because of the control of the moral, intellectual, and economic high ground by elites hostile to the traditional Christian cultures of Europe and the West. That’s why I emphasize the power of messages aimed at the cortex in inhibiting tendencies (e.g., ethnocentrism) based in the lower brain centers (see here). But the central component of these brain washing messages in the contemporary West is not Christianity. Indeed, the messages are very likely to inculcate guilt about the Christian past as exclusionary, aggressive (the involvement of Christianity in colonialism, slavery, the Crusades, ethnic cleansing of native peoples, etc.) and hostile to non-Christian minorities (paradigmatically, the Jews and Blacks).

Cultural forces are also important in explaining why ethnic suicide is a pan-European phenomenon. As I noted in the first part of my talk, the revolution has been top-down—promoted by elites in politics, the media, and the academic world, with a major role for Jews with their traditional hostility toward the peoples and cultures of Europe. At TOO and in The Culture of Critique, we have repeatedly provided evidence that throughout the West (e.g., Sweden, France, Australia, the K., the U.S.) the organized Jewish community and individual influential Jews have been a necessary condition (not sufficient) in successfully promoting immigration, multiculturalism, and the idea that Western nations ought to be proposition nations—i.e., nations dedicated only to certain abstract conceptions of universal human rights rather than having any ethnic basis. For a variety of reasons, from taking advantage of the incentives that are now built into the system to pathological altruism, many non-Jews have been actively complicit in this project.

Understanding why particular countries are going along with this project is difficult and requires a detailed analysis for each country. For example, are the Croatian people, the Greeks, the Hungarians or even the U.K. eagerly accepting African immigrants and eagerly embracing multiculturalism, or are the policies of their government dictated by their membership in the EU and by elites within these countries whose self-interest coincides with adopting the ideology of multiculturalism and ethnic suicide? I think the latter.

Finally, I am not saying that Christianity is the way forward. As far as I can see, all Christian sects are either corrupted or misguided at this time on the subject of race, and race is the key issue. It is true that, as noted above, quite a few serious Christians are behaving in an implicitly White manner, but it is very doubtful that at the end of the day that will be enough.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/20 ... -the-west/

[David York]

Kevin MacDonald



Understanding why particular countries are going along with this project is difficult and requires a detailed analysis for each country. For example, are the Croatian people, the Greeks, the Hungarians or even the U.K. eagerly accepting African immigrants and eagerly embracing multiculturalism, or are the policies of their government dictated by their membership in the EU and by elites within these countries whose self-interest coincides with adopting the ideology of multiculturalism and ethnic suicide? I think the latter.


http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/20 ... -the-west/

Those countries mentioned above are just plain stupid in my opinion. Western Europe is enemy occupied territory and certain Eastern European Countries like Croatia are trying to emulate the stupidity of the West because Hollywood has made stupidity fashionable and most of the people in these countries are mere sheep who will follow anything promoted in the West. Check out this picture:



That is a picture from a recent protest by some students in Zagreb, Croatia (http://www.samrack.com/?p=3327). Apparently they lied down for 147 seconds to honor 147 Kenyans who were killed in terrorist attacks in Kenya. I don't see any reason why they would protest in this way, and in honor of black people, other than to emulate the "die in" protests in America in the wake of the Eric Garner Death:



It's pretty much monkey see monkey do mentality.

As far as Christianity not being at the root cause of our civilization decline, I disagree with that. It was at the root of Rome's decline. The Christian doctrine doesn't make any specifications to protect racial miscegenation, and makes White people sympathize with non-whites even to the point of their own extinction because anyone who accepts Jesus as their lord and savior is their brother or sister.

[Wade Hampton III]

John Kaminski posted...

Christians are unreliable allies in the fight against
Jewish world tyranny precisely because they are creations
of that tyranny. Alexandrian Jews invented Christianity
and peopled the Bible with vaporous characters who never
existed. They took the exploits of Egyptian kings and
ascribed them to the Biblical patriarchs in the totally
contemptuous Hebrew heist of ancient Egyptian concepts
twisted into Jewish legends.

And it gets worse. Much worse. Not only did the Jews
create Christianity at the outset, they authored every
Protestant variation of the Roman Catholic faith that
has ever been invented, giving you some idea of the
magnitude of this Jewish mindlock which like a giant
fishnet has shackled the entire world in its concepts
and ideas, all of which are corrupt because they are
based upon a deliberately false observation, a lie
that people have chosen to believe, to the detriment
of everybody who has ever heard about it or felt its
effects.

As I have listened to the various Christian critics of
Jewish practices over the years, it has occurred to me
that they don't really want to correct the ubiquitous
criminal practices of the Jews as much as they want to
regain the insane totalitarian power the Jews have
stealthily stolen from them over the centuries. Nation
after nation has been plundered, poisoned and prostituted
by this Jewish money machine with the big teeth that
bites your balls off if you refuse to be its slave.

http://johnkaminski.info/pages/whats_th ... allies.htm

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[Zorost]

It was nice to see a reasonable treatment of Christianity, rather than the usual extremes of total belief in Christianity or total belief in some wacky conspiracy theory about Christianity being Jewish that they read in some charismatic but horribly researched essay. Then I read the responses. Oh well.

Christianity had little or nothing to do with the fall of Rome. Rome fell largely because slavery destroyed the free farmers, and because the elites became liberals.

Anyone who says "Christianity is X!" is wrong. Christianity has greatly changed over the years to fit in with what was needed, or what was practical. All religions that last have contradictory commandments that can be interpreted as needed by smart leaders to give the impression that nothing has changed even as great changes are wrought to deal with current problems. Early Paul is a spastic hippie wackjob preaching an anti-status quo message. Late Paul (Pastoral epistles, which few scholars think he wrote) is all about conforming to the status quo, so much so that Christian leaders are required to be upstanding members of the community and married with children; in other words, leaders of Jesus' movement are supposed to be the opposite of Jesus.

Unfortunately the current incarnation was influenced by the desire to fit in with a dominant system that is run by jews for the extermination of whites. This doesn't mean that Christianity couldn't be reinterpreted along WNist lines, as it has often been used before.

[Will Williams]

It was nice to see a reasonable treatment of Christianity, rather than the usual extremes of total belief in Christianity or total belief in some wacky conspiracy theory about Christianity being Jewish that they read in some charismatic but horribly researched essay. Then I read the responses. Oh well.
[...]
Unfortunately the current incarnation was influenced by the desire to fit in with a dominant system that is run by jews for the extermination of whites. This doesn't mean that Christianity couldn't be reinterpreted along WNist lines, as it has often been used before.

I'm sure it will be by some, but that doesn't change the fact that the creed is escapist, superstitious fantasy that worships the Jew's tribal god Yahweh. Bottom line: Christianity is not grounded in reality.

[Zorost]

I'm sure it will be by some, but that doesn't change the fact that the creed is escapist, superstitious fantasy that worships the Jew's tribal god Yahweh. Bottom line: Christianity is not grounded in reality.

Well, it is a religion...

I'd love it if whites could see reality and react accordingly. Unfortunately a vast majority of people don't really understand the world, they understand symbolism and rules that are given to them by others. An article by Dr. Pierce was posted on this website a short time ago about how about 95% or so of the population go along with whatever they have been told to believe, without really caring about it. That 95% are the ones that need a religion/ ideology/ imposed culture of some kind to know how they are supposed to react and what they are supposed to like and dislike.

Christianity was a major unifying force in white world domination, and in the defense of Europe from Islam (Crusades). Emperor Constantine adopted Christianity for the Empire because it was a militant religion that he thought would help him win battles. It was a positive force for whites when whites were in charge of defining it, it has become mainly a negative force for whites now that jews and liberals started to redefine it back in the '60s or so. I remember Dr. Duke writing about how virtually all pastors were pro-segregation, then all of a sudden in the '60s they started preaching love and brotherhood for every race.

Anyway, whatever works to get people marching in the same direction on the same day.

[NoLongerSilentUSA]

Well, it is a religion...

I'd love it if whites could see reality and react accordingly. Unfortunately a vast majority of people don't really understand the world, they understand symbolism and rules that are given to them by others. An article by Dr. Pierce was posted on this website a short time ago about how about 95% or so of the population go along with whatever they have been told to believe, without really caring about it. That 95% are the ones that need a religion/ ideology/ imposed culture of some kind to know how they are supposed to react and what they are supposed to like and dislike.

People could see reality and react accordingly if it was part of their spirituality to do so. The problem is that people are being indoctrinated from birth to be illogical in order to be spiritual and feel a spiritual connection with others. If people were raised to be logical as a part of their spirituality, then we would not have people blindly clinging to illogical thought processes in order to maintain their spirituality and be part of a spiritual community. We can have both logic and spirituality as we see in the science and logic-based Cosmotheism promoted by William Pierce.

Shaw and the Religion of the Future -- 6/13/2015
http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?t=2131

Discovering Cosmotheism by Robert S. Griffin
http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?t=5

[Wade Hampton III]

A Gift From VNN:

The queers are getting bold, now that they can “marry” like everyone
else. They’ve been “liberated.” They’ll only get bolder with time.
Anyway, what sort of religion tells you: “turn the other cheek,”
“forgive your attackers,” “pride is a sin” and “embrace poverty”?
A pretty crappy religion. No wonder so much of the Western world
is meek, timid, ball-less, and just plain crackpot, watching White
genocide occur yet doing nothing about it. And make no mistake:
the Jews designed Christianity for Gentiles only, as a weapon
against them. A Jew, St. Paul, was Christianity’s head cheerleader
and he spread it as far as Spain, knowing full well that this
religion would harm the gentiles. St. Paul, a.k.a., “the Apostle
to the Gentiles,” was formerly a Jew named Saul of Tarsus.
Jews wrote the Old Testament!