Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

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Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by David York » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:28 am

Below is an excerpt from William Gayley Simpson's book "Which Way Western Man", which as someone else pointed on on WB is available in PDF format, online for free at this address: http://ia600501.us.archive.org/0/items/ ... ernMan.pdf
This is an excerpt from chapter 11, "The Necessity of an Aristocracy" (the last paragraph which I highlighted in bold is the most important one in my opinion)

But with this, we must now pass on to the third of the ingredients in the idea of
democracy that I have imagined its protagonists to have most at heart. Along with the
concern for the rights of minorities and a demand that opportunity be spread before all
men equally, which we have just finished examining, I detect, in and behind all of the
movements and philosophy that bear the democratic label, a basic solicitude for the wellbeing
of the common, most ordinary man, and a quite exceptional estimate of his worth.
It is maintained that this concern and this faith must be traced, ultimately, to the leaven of
Christianity, and I am not now interested in combating the argument. But I am inclined to
trace it less to any teaching of Jesus than to the Church’s metaphysical doctrine of the
individual soul. As we have already seen, Jesus was certainly no proletarian revolutionist,
such as Socialists commonly try to make him. And I find in his teaching no more belief
that every man has infinite worth, as the Christians would have it, than that all men are
equal. In fact, I find no signs of any such theorizing about men. Jesus came with
something more than that. He loved men. But it is beyond dispute that he drew a sharp
line between those who had “eyes to see” and those who did not, between those who had
ears and heard with them and those whose blank faces showed all too plainly that they
could not make a thing out of what he was saying. For him the latter were virtually as the
dead. Indeed, he compared them to dogs and to swine, and he counseled his disciples not
to spend time on them. He did not spend time on them himself. He concentrated on those
few, those very few, most perceptive and responsive ones whom he had gathered about
himself as disciples, and whom he was constantly calling to some quiet place apart where
he might try to communicate to them the mysteries of his innermost and deepest
experience. It is unmistakable that Jesus took men as he found them, and that for him
they were anything but equal.

But in any case, and no matter where Jesus stands in the matter, this idea that every man
has great worth and that society must be ordered in constant remembrance of it and
slavish regard for it, is one of the doctrines that make Christianity the enemy, even the
archenemy, of the highest end of man. It is romantic and dangerous nonsense. We shall
not go forward, whether as a nation or as a race, until we have ceased to value a man in
his relations to some metaphysical existence believed to be outside of or to follow after
his life on Earth. Religious people who insist that “all men are equal in the sight of God,”
thereby plainly reveal their conviction that men ought to be treated as equals here and
now. But so long as men continue to live, their first business is with what they can be and
with what they can do on the Earth. And to try to treat men as if they were all equal and
to set up human arrangements on the assumption that they are equal, when it is perfectly
obvious that they are nothing of the sort, is not only brazenly and impudently dishonest,
and therefore spiritually degenerating, but it is actually to court the doom that must
overtake any people so sunk in folly as to found its basic institutions and rest its life on a
hollow delusion. We shall never advance as a society, or even build solidly and durably,
except as we come to evaluate all men realistically in reference to what we may
reasonably expect of them here on this Earth, as creators, as mates, as persons able to
bear and to measure up to responsibility, and to fulfill some useful function. Any belief
about a Hereafter or a Beyond that does not somehow exalt, enrich, and strengthen life
here and now is our deadly poison. And any in our midst who are enticed by it and misled
by it are our deadly foes. This is basic
.

Jimmy Marr

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by Jimmy Marr » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:02 pm

Christianity is a judaized meth-whore whose unique trick it was to free-base jusurious currencies.

Who gives a whit if her principles were universal? Did she apply them universally, or dispense exemptions to every form of inferiority that could crawl out from under a goddamned rock?

David York

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by David York » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:12 pm

Jimmy Marr wrote:Christianity is a judaized meth-whore whose unique trick it was to free-base jusurious currencies.

Who gives a whit if her principles were universal? Did she apply them universally, or dispense exemptions to every form of inferiority that could crawl out from under a goddamned rock?

Yeah I agree with you, the church is bad indeed, but not all of the followers of Christianity are bad people in my opinion. They have simply been misled. Even Jesus himself may not have been a bad guy (if he even existed), but the people who used his name to make a religion out of him perverted his message to enslave the sheepish people and the religion has been destroying our race for 2,000 years.

*I edited my OP and removed the first paragraph from that excerpt to make it a bit shorter. The two paragraphs left are enough to explain why Christianity is the enemy of our race.

The reason I posted this is because there are other pro-white groups who either tolerate Christianity, or even insist on keeping the Christian faith as a tenet of their ideology. I think the groups that tolerate Christianity do it simply because they don't want to offend or alienate White Christians who may be sympathetic to their cause, and who may donate financially. The groups that tolerate Christianity within their organizations for those reasons are being a bit unethical and dishonest in my opinion. The other groups that want to merge Christianity with White racialism are pretty much insane in my opinion. I think their motive is more of a fear of eternal punishment in Hell if they renounce their Christian faith. I believe there is no place for such superstitious mentalities in this struggle other than to weed out the less fit elements who may be in our ranks. The National Alliance is special in my opinion and is the Vanguard of all pro-white groups because they outright state that Christianity is an opposed ideology, and rather than take the easy way and compromise with devout Christians for short term monetary gain or for a short term increase in membership numbers, the NA has taken the correct path by stating outright that Christianity is an opposed ideology and although this may hurt the organization in the short run, it will be to our advantage in the long run when the other movements fail. The group that is competing for control of the National Alliance is actually another perverted group of people who edited the original NA handbook that Dr. Pierce produced and removed the section that classified Christianity as an opposed ideology. Their motivation in doing that was most likely to attract larger numbers to their group and thus gain larger financial support and also because some of the leaders of that splinter group identify with Christianity themselves. This would not be tolerated by Dr. Pierce if he were alive today. It is a recipe for failure to embrace Christianity. That doesn't mean Christians should not be allowed to join the Alliance, but they would have to put their Christian faith aside if it causes them to come into conflict with any National Alliance policy.

Jimmy Marr

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by Jimmy Marr » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:47 pm

DanielOlj79 wrote:
Jimmy Marr wrote:Christianity is a judaized meth-whore whose unique trick it was to free-base jusurious currencies.

Who gives a whit if her principles were universal? Did she apply them universally, or dispense exemptions to every form of inferiority that could crawl out from under a goddamned rock?

Yeah I agree with you, the church is bad indeed, but not all of the followers of Christianity are bad people...
You're right. I wish I hadn't gone on and gynaemorphized 'em. :oops:

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Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by Will Williams » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:54 pm

DanielOlj79 wrote:
Jimmy Marr wrote:Christianity is a judaized meth-whore whose unique trick it was to free-base jusurious currencies.

Who gives a whit if her principles were universal? Did she apply them universally, or dispense exemptions to every form of inferiority that could crawl out from under a goddamned rock?

Yeah I agree with you, the church is bad indeed, but not all of the followers of Christianity are bad people in my opinion. They have simply been misled. Even Jesus himself may not have been a bad guy (if he even existed), but the people who used his name to make a religion out of him perverted his message to enslave the sheepish people and the religion has been destroying our race for 2,000 years.

*I edited my OP and removed the first paragraph from that excerpt to make it a bit shorter. The two paragraphs left are enough to explain why Christianity is the enemy of our race.

The reason I posted this is because there are other pro-white groups who either tolerate Christianity, or even insist on keeping the Christian faith as a tenet of their ideology. I think the groups that tolerate Christianity do it simply because they don't want to offend or alienate White Christians who may be sympathetic to their cause, and who may donate financially. The groups that tolerate Christianity within their organizations for those reasons are being a bit unethical and dishonest in my opinion. The other groups that want to merge Christianity with White racialism are pretty much insane in my opinion. I think their motive is more of a fear of eternal punishment in Hell if they renounce their Christian faith. I believe there is no place for such superstitious mentalities in this struggle other than to weed out the less fit elements who may be in our ranks. The National Alliance is special in my opinion and is the Vanguard of all pro-white groups because they outright state that Christianity is an opposed ideology, and rather than take the easy way and compromise with devout Christians for short term monetary gain or for a short term increase in membership numbers, the NA has taken the correct path by stating outright that Christianity is an opposed ideology and although this may hurt the organization in the short run, it will be to our advantage in the long run when the other movements fail. The group that is competing for control of the National Alliance is actually another perverted group of people who edited the original NA handbook that Dr. Pierce produced and removed the section that classified Christianity as an opposed ideology. Their motivation in doing that was most likely to attract larger numbers to their group and thus gain larger financial support and also because some of the leaders of that splinter group identify with Christianity themselves. This would not be tolerated by Dr. Pierce if he were alive today. It is a recipe for failure to embrace Christianity. That doesn't mean Christians should not be allowed to join the Alliance, but they would have to put their Christian faith aside if it causes them to come into conflict with any National Alliance policy.
You'll appreciate my commentary in the April BULLETIN, Daniel. I'm addressing what you have written above and emphasize our Alliance's policy on associating with these "movement" groups. It will be postmarked tomorrow so you should have it by Monday, maybe even Saturday.
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Jimmy Marr

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by Jimmy Marr » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:57 pm

There is an understandable feeling of need among alienated Whites for a return to a primordial tradition. Dr. Pierce addressed this need, primarily in its exoteric aspects, in The Cosmotheist Trilogy. In two or three places, Dr. Pierce also makes transient allusions to its esoteric aspects. It seems quite possible to me that similar esoteric aspects may have existed within the stolen elements of traditions from which the jews cobbled together the mind virus of christ-insanity.

When I think about what I believe jews have done with regard to more recent events, say for instance the demolition of several buildings in and around the World Trade Center for the purpose of starting a war with the Islamic world, it seems like they deliberately produced a competing array of conspiracy theories to obscure the authenticity of anything that might have potential to compete with the main thrust of their primary false narrative.

I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that jews created a full array of fallacious stories and doctrines in an effort to hijack and obscure any metaphysical school of thought that they viewed as having the potential to liberate people from their temporal scams involving the time value of money.

If there is or was such a thing as gnosis, as it's referred to in the Western Tradition, I suspect, by virtue of its origins in close proximity to judaism, that Christianity would be a poor choice of traditions among which to sift for remnants of metaphysical truth.

I'm personally operating under the hypothesis that the Hindu Tradition holds the greatest potential in this respect because it is the oldest of the metaphysical traditions from which many others seem to have spun off, because of its self-described Hyperborean origins (i.e. geographical accounts of a physical environment wherein the sun never sunk below horizon for substantial portions of the annual cycle), and because of its unbroken linguistic transmission in a rigidly preserved Aryan form (Sanskrit).

With regard to the European Nordic Tradition and Druidism, we have the problem of the Roman (jewish) conquest, which has left very little upon which to research and rebuild.
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Reason: Corrected spelling of Cosmotheist in "The Cosmotheist Trilogy"

Cosmotheist

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by Cosmotheist » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:29 pm

Jimmy Marr wrote:There is an understandable feeling of need among alienated Whites for a return to a primordial tradition. Dr. Pierce addressed this need, primarily in its exoteric aspects, in The Cosmotheist Trilogy. In two or three places, Dr. Pierce also makes transient allusions to its esoteric aspects. It seems quite possible to me that similar esoteric aspects may have existed within the stolen elements of traditions from which the jews cobbled together the mind virus of christ-insanity.
Indeed, but, not just "primordial traditon" but one that actually addresses their need for "re-connection"
to what is REAL both all within themselves and all in their actual world, like a true Aryan panentheism.
The esoteric aspects actually did exist within the Gnostic or within the mystic traditions of Christianity,
and most especially, with the Gospel of Thomas.
Jimmy Marr wrote:When I think about what I believe jews have done with regard to more recent events, say for instance the demolition of several buildings in and around the World Trade Center for the purpose of starting a war with the Islamic world, it seems like they deliberately produced a competing array of conspiracy theories to obscure the authenticity of anything that might have potential to compete with the main thrust of their primary false narrative.
Of course, and as that is the real purpose of any such false conspiracy theories,
to cover up the truth and to create "plausible deniability" with all of the fog that
results from all of it. :D
Jimmy Marr wrote:I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that jews created a full array of fallacious stories and doctrines in an effort to hijack and obscure any metaphysical school of thought that they viewed as having the potential to liberate people from their temporal scams involving the time value of money.
Indeed, or as in the Mossad Motto: "By way of deception, shall thou conduct war!"
It is not just a possibility, but it is a probability, especially, quite after the fact.
Jimmy Marr wrote:If there is or was such a thing as gnosis, as it's referred to in the Western Tradition, I suspect, by virtue of its origins in close proximity to judaism, that Christianity would be a poor choice of traditions among which to sift for remnants of metaphysical truth.
Actually, Jimmy, there are "remnants of metaphysical truth" within such "gnosis",
but it is really like "grooming the stool"! LOL! :D
Or really it is just a lot of exacting work and for just a few pieces of true wisdom.
Jimmy Marr wrote:I'm personally operating under the hypothesis that the Hindu Tradition holds the greatest potential in this respect
because it is the oldest of the metaphysical traditions from which many others seem to have spun off,
because of its self-described Hyperborean origins (i.e. geographical accounts of a physical environment wherein
the sun never sunk below horizon for substantial portions of the annual cycle), and because of its unbroken linguistic transmission in a rigidly preserved Aryan form (Sanskrit).
I agree, but, you must also understand that only the original truly Aryan and oldest of these metaphysical traditions
have any real value for us and that non-White Dravidian pollution had and has crept into all of this as miscegenation
engulfed them and destroyed their original Aryan race soul thereby. Now adopting any such traditions require care as
well today and so as not to make any of their same mistakes and diversions from REALITY.
Jimmy Marr wrote:With regard to the European Nordic Tradition and Druidism, we have the problem of the Roman (jewish) conquest, which has left very little upon which to research and rebuild.
True enough, but, perhaps just enough to rebuild in the Faustian Aryan Cosmotheist spirit
and to adopt these and to suit only our own needs ever upwards in consciousness and being
towards ever Higher Man
.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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PS--Have you finished your reading assignment and per our PM yet,
Jimmy, or so we can get started?

David York

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by David York » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:59 am

Will Williams wrote:
DanielOlj79 wrote:
You'll appreciate my commentary in the April BULLETIN, Daniel. I'm addressing what you have written above and emphasize our Alliance's policy on associating with these "movement" groups. It will be postmarked tomorrow so you should have it by Monday, maybe even Saturday.
Okay thanks Will, I look forward to receiving that Bulletin and reading it. I've had a lot of personal struggle over the question of Christianity, and I think I've reached a final conclusion and I agree with what William Gayley Simpson wrote in "Which Way Western Man?" that it is an enemy, even an arch-enemy to our race. I found it kind of fortuitous that I came upon this writing at the time I did, because I've been listening to several other "popular" pro-white media, and although I have always been loyal to William Pierce's organization, I had some trouble figuring out why our group is better than any other Pro-White group. In the final analysis it dawned on me that the policy in regards to Christianity is the key to what makes the National Alliance the Vanguard movement. I wholeheartedly agree with W.G.S. that Christianity is a foe to our cause and any pro-white group that tolerates Christianity in their organization, whether it be for short term gain in the number of members/financial contributors, or whether it be because of superstitious belief in Hell if they blaspheme their lord are doomed to failure in the long run. In trying to win support for the National Alliance, I think focusing on Christianity as an opposed ideology is probably our best strategy to meet that goal. This may be to our disadvantage in the short term, because pandering to Christians who might be capable of financial support would be helpful, and welcoming them into the Alliance would increase our numbers, but in the long run it would be a detriment to our movement because it is compromising with the truth and will make our organization a weak one. I just noticed that certain other movements that seem to be doing well right now are tolerant of Christianity and don't allow people in their camp to criticize that religion in order to not offend their Christian members, or certain movements outright profess their faith in Christianity and have it as a core of their message. I think both of those types of movements are wrong and Dr. Pierce had it right when he wrote about Christianity as an opposed ideology.

David York

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by David York » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:04 pm

Jimmy Marr wrote:There is an understandable feeling of need among alienated Whites for a return to a primordial tradition. Dr. Pierce addressed this need, primarily in its exoteric aspects, in The Cosomotheist Trilogy. In two or three places, Dr. Pierce also makes transient allusions to its esoteric aspects. It seems quite possible to me that similar esoteric aspects may have existed within the stolen elements of traditions from which the jews cobbled together the mind virus of christ-insanity.

When I think about what I believe jews have done with regard to more recent events, say for instance the demolition of several buildings in and around the World Trade Center for the purpose of starting a war with the Islamic world, it seems like they deliberately produced a competing array of conspiracy theories to obscure the authenticity of anything that might have potential to compete with the main thrust of their primary false narrative.

I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that jews created a full array of fallacious stories and doctrines in an effort to hijack and obscure any metaphysical school of thought that they viewed as having the potential to liberate people from their temporal scams involving the time value of money.

If there is or was such a thing as gnosis, as it's referred to in the Western Tradition, I suspect, by virtue of its origins in close proximity to judaism, that Christianity would be a poor choice of traditions among which to sift for remnants of metaphysical truth.

I'm personally operating under the hypothesis that the Hindu Tradition holds the greatest potential in this respect because it is the oldest of the metaphysical traditions from which many others seem to have spun off, because of its self-described Hyperborean origins (i.e. geographical accounts of a physical environment wherein the sun never sunk below horizon for substantial portions of the annual cycle), and because of its unbroken linguistic transmission in a rigidly preserved Aryan form (Sanskrit).

With regard to the European Nordic Tradition and Druidism, we have the problem of the Roman (jewish) conquest, which has left very little upon which to research and rebuild.
I don't know about Hinduism as becoming a new religion for whites, although, many of the White Nationalist writers I've been reading do seem to hold a higher regard for Hinduism than Christianity. Both William Gayley Simpson and Francis Parker Yockey wrote that there will be a return to spirituality and mysticism in the future, but it will come in the form of a new religion that is more in tune with our race's instincts and needs. In "Which Way Western Man?" William Gayley Simpson said that the new religion hasn't come yet, but perhaps Dr. Pierce's Cosmotheism may be the New religion when we return to a spiritual phase in our future.

Cosmotheist

Re: Christianity is the enemy of the highest end of man.

Post by Cosmotheist » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:55 pm

DanielOlj79 wrote:
Jimmy Marr wrote:There is an understandable feeling of need among alienated Whites for a return to a primordial tradition. Dr. Pierce addressed this need, primarily in its exoteric aspects, in The Cosomotheist Trilogy. In two or three places, Dr. Pierce also makes transient allusions to its esoteric aspects. It seems quite possible to me that similar esoteric aspects may have existed within the stolen elements of traditions from which the jews cobbled together the mind virus of christ-insanity.

When I think about what I believe jews have done with regard to more recent events, say for instance the demolition of several buildings in and around the World Trade Center for the purpose of starting a war with the Islamic world, it seems like they deliberately produced a competing array of conspiracy theories to obscure the authenticity of anything that might have potential to compete with the main thrust of their primary false narrative.

I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that jews created a full array of fallacious stories and doctrines in an effort to hijack and obscure any metaphysical school of thought that they viewed as having the potential to liberate people from their temporal scams involving the time value of money.

If there is or was such a thing as gnosis, as it's referred to in the Western Tradition, I suspect, by virtue of its origins in close proximity to judaism, that Christianity would be a poor choice of traditions among which to sift for remnants of metaphysical truth.

I'm personally operating under the hypothesis that the Hindu Tradition holds the greatest potential in this respect because it is the oldest of the metaphysical traditions from which many others seem to have spun off, because of its self-described Hyperborean origins (i.e. geographical accounts of a physical environment wherein the sun never sunk below horizon for substantial portions of the annual cycle), and because of its unbroken linguistic transmission in a rigidly preserved Aryan form (Sanskrit).

With regard to the European Nordic Tradition and Druidism, we have the problem of the Roman (jewish) conquest, which has left very little upon which to research and rebuild.
I don't know about Hinduism as becoming a new religion for whites, although, many of the White Nationalist writers I've been reading do seem to hold a higher regard for Hinduism than Christianity. Both William Gayley Simpson and Francis Parker Yockey wrote that there will be a return to spirituality and mysticism in the future, but it will come in the form of a new religion that is more in tune with our race's instincts and needs. In "Which Way Western Man?" William Gayley Simpson said that the new religion hasn't come yet, but perhaps Dr. Pierce's Cosmotheism may be the New religion when we return to a spiritual phase in our future.
Dr. Pierce's Cosmotheism will be the New Religion of Tomorrow
as it is the spiritual basis of everything the NA stands for and as
it is truly Our Cause.


Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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