DanielOlj79 wrote:Cosmotheist wrote:
I would and I do, as evolution is a scientific fact.
I already gave you the link to the proof of it above.
No, there are not just two kinds of evolution, and
it is proven whether at the micro or macro levels.
The progression of life from simple to complex is
proven, but, the actual origin of life is still a open
scientific question. Actually, you are quite wrong
about that assertion. There are "plenty" of such:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tr ... al_fossils
Yockey wrote his book Imperium back in 1948 before all
of these fossils above were discovered and from a false
"Christian" and anti-evolutionary "bias" based upon it.
The false assumption that it takes millions of years to
evolve an organ is a red-herring. We can see that in a
common change from a tadpole to a frog from gills that
are needed in water, to lungs to breathe air that "both"
organs are used while making the transition from one
environment to the other.
That said, do you still believe that "faith" in the sun of
rising tomorrow is the same as the "faith" of believing
that it will not rise tomorrow because of "Jews" saying
that it won't?
Best regards,
Cosmotheist
I don't want to give you the impression that I'm trying to argue that Christianity is more believable than Science or Evolution, or that Christianity is even AS believable as Science, that's not really what I believe at all. I'm just saying that in certain respects Yockee was correct about Science and Evolution not being completely accurate theories of how species came into being. They might be correct, but I think the point is that even with Science we still don't know all the nuances of how life works, and especially about what the origins of life was. This doesn't mean that we should accept Christianity as the correct explanation. It simply means that Science doesn't have all the answers. I don't think Yockee was writing what he wrote because he was biased by Christianity, I think he has his own theory on how great civilizations are born, live and die, and how they are really organisms with souls. He describes them as life forms that go through different stages, such as religious-mythological, Materialistic/rationalist and scientific, Capitalist and then socialist, etc. Imperium is a very good book, I'm still not finished reading it, but it is quite a challenging read. Yockee was a very sophisticated writer. I suppose he may have had some outdated thoughts, since it was written in 1948, but I definitely don't think he was trying to defend Christianity in that book.
Sincerely,
Daniel
Ok, Daniel, but, that was exactly the "impression" that you were making with those prior posts.
So you do understand that there is a big difference between a "blind faith" and a "rational faith",
and that these two never should be "conflated" now?
You would be correct about
"scientism" not being accurate, but, evolution and science are the most
accurate "tools" that we do have for discovering these truths and these facts of Reality and of Life.
Both are "methods of discovering" and their knowledge is not complete without acknowledging what
is most fundamental: Consciousness. Both the "Cosmic and Universal Consciousness of the Creator",
and the individuated one, or the Divine Spark that's all within your own self.
Yes, no science has all of the answers, yet, and even of exactly how life began and the failure of science
to even acknowledge "spirit or soul or consciousness" that "is within everything and that everything is all
within it" reflects science's self-imposed limited method of ever getting to that one great Whole Truth of
Reality.
I think that Yockey got it backwards giving "souls and spirits" to "Civilizations", as opposed to "race souls"
actually giving rise to them, of which actually makes more sense and really puts the horse before the cart.
Hegel with his
"spiritual dialectic" does seem closer to the truth of history than Yockey's "given stages" of
"cultural and economic" evolution. His attacks on evolution and of
Darwinism as just being "materialism"
do seem to me to be mostly from his "Christian bias" and that being acquired from when he had gone to
the
Catholic University of Notre Dame. Evolution is "materialism" only if you accept the false notion that it
is what really exists, as opposed to the Whole Truth of Cosmotheism, that the Consciousness within all,
and that's within one's own self, alone, is what really exists!
Yockey was a product of his time and of his
own limited knowledge of what was known in 1948. Nevertheless,
it is an interesting read with many of
his original ideas being truly inspired and inspiring, even if they were not always being "factually-accurate",
and were "greatly-influenced" by
Spengler and his writings.
Best regards,
Cosmotheist