After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusion.

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Benjamin Bice

After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusion.

Post by Benjamin Bice » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:38 am

Here is my problem with the kind of anthropomorphic god that Christians and practicers of the other "revealed" religions believe in: this kind of god puts himself above the creation he created and is exempt from the same natural laws that all of his creations are bound by. Essentially, this hypothetical god maintains a state of aloof separateness from his creation. I cannot, will not, believe such a god is real. I can only believe in a god that is as one with the creation born of that god's spirit. A god who has no separation from that created, but is so intimately entwined with that creation that there is no distinguishing between the two. This god cannot exempt itself from the natural laws of physics, because those laws are part of God's very own nature. That, my friends, is our Natural Earth Mother.

Benjamin Bice

Re: After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusi

Post by Benjamin Bice » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:44 am

I am eternally grateful for my exchanges with Mr. Will Williams which gave me the final push to accept something that is real and natural and led me to reject superstitious, nature-defying, physics-defying, Christian nonsense. If anyone wonders about me using the terms "Mother Nature" and "Natural Earth Mother", I am not attempting to make nature anthropomorphic; it is just my personal way of personifying nature.

Cosmotheist

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Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:40 am

God – A Work In Progress
By Max Musson
http://www.westernspring.co.uk/god-a-work-in-progress/

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Most people fall into the trap of believing that there is either;

1. A fully formed, often anthropomorphised, conscious, sentient, all knowing, all powerful, all loving God, who has a particular interest in, and cares for us; or

2. There is no God.

Dawkins is good at demolishing belief in the first of these possibilities and the mistake that most people make as a consequence is to believe that his arguments therefore prove that the second possibility is therefore correct.

Big Bang 4Science indicates that the universe came into existence with the ‘Big Bang’ approximately 13.5 billion years ago. No one knows what existed prior to the Big Bang and the Big Bang consisted of a sudden out-rushing of raw energy from a central point, filling the void of nothingness that existed beforehand.

Whatever existed in the void of nothingness before the Big Bang, and which occupied the central point, was the source of all of the energy from which our universe has formed.

Whatever existed prior to the Big Bang – the act of universal energy creation – no longer appears to exist. It appears that whatever it was became completely consumed in the act of universal energy creation.

That source of energy could be viewed as a ‘creator’ of sorts, because from the energy created during the Big Bang, all of the matter of the Universe has evolved, including us.

What we do not know at this stage, is what form the Creator took. We have no way of knowing whether the Creator was conscious, or sentient, or all knowing, or all powerful. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that the Creator was all loving and certainly none to suggest that the Creator has or had any particular interest in, or care for us.

The universe, or the Cosmos as it should be more accurately described is an immense random generation device in which matter has formed from the energy that was created, and has evolved through many stages, gradually increasing in complexity and the level of consciousness achieved by the most highly evolved life forms.

In searching for the purpose of life and the purpose of the Cosmos, there are many as yet unknowns, but it is clear that the Cosmos is a mechanism that facilitates evolution – the evolution of inanimate matter, but also living matter, through ever increasing levels of complexity knowledge, power and consciousness.

We humans, as far as we can tell, stand at the pinnacle of that evolutionary process, but there is no evidence to suggest that we are the ‘end product’, in fact the contrary. All of the evidence suggests that we are as Nietzsche describes, a ‘stepping stone’ from sub-man to super-man and beyond.

Cosmotheism asserts that providing we continue the process of evolution, mankind, or at least the currently most highly evolved elements of humanity, such as the White race, will evolve through ever higher and higher levels of consciousness, power and knowledge until our future generations achieve a state of total consciousness and omnipotence. This will be the culmination of the Creator’s work, the metamorphosis of the Creator from a pre-physical state, either with or without consciousness, but with an indefatigable ‘will to be’, through many stages to his/her eventual complete self-realisation as a conscious, sentient, all powerful, all knowing entity – Godhood.

This belief is the fundamental tenet of Cosmotheism, which unlike any other religion, is completely consistent with science and nature, and does not rely on blind faith or superstitious mumbo-jumbo in order to attain credibility.

Benjamin Bice

Re: After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusi

Post by Benjamin Bice » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:31 pm

Both the religious believers of "revealed" religions and atheists make the mistake of believing that God must be an anthropomorphic deity or there is no God at all.

Benjamin Bice

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Post by Benjamin Bice » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:12 pm

If my understanding is correct(and I am certain that it is), the Creator would have to be "conscious", at least to a degree. I understand that the evolutionary process is the Creator's process of self-realization. Through this process, the creative spirit of the universe is becoming ever more self-aware of its own nature. Therefore, it becomes ever more "conscious". Humans having been going through a similar process throughout our existence. I think it can be agreed that humans, white people in particular, are the highest form of life to evovle on our planet. I think our evolution toward higher states of being and self-awareness/self-consciousness is very similar to what the creative spirit itself is undergoing. We are, after all, simply a physical extension of the creative force, and not play-thing creations put here by a god that is separate from the created as Christians would have us believe(which to me would imply that we are merely here for said god's amusement).

Cosmotheist

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Post by Cosmotheist » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:36 am

Hello Benjamin,

Indeed, the Creator is pure Consciousness, of which is pure Spirit,
and these two are really just one and the same. The divine Spirit
is within everything and everything is within it, but, to differing
degrees and all based upon their own evolution and degrees of a
self-awareness and self-consciousness of the Whole all within it.

Thus, at a basic level, even all of the "sub-atomic particles" do also
have primitive "proto-consciousness" and of all which is increasingly
concentrated the higher levels of being one goes, to life, and then to
human life, and to the White Race, itself, with the potential to go up
ever higher towards a Personal Godhood.

That is the Upward Path of Life of a true White Racialist Cosmotheism.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Benjamin Bice

Re: After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusi

Post by Benjamin Bice » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:22 pm

I couldn't agree more, sir.

Cosmotheist

Re: After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusi

Post by Cosmotheist » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:32 pm

Benjamin Bice wrote:I couldn't agree more, sir.
Great Ben, and likewise, and you are in very astute company!

For example:

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Edgar Allen Poe : Cosmotheist Thinker, White Racialist
By Kevin Alfred Strom

Today (January 19th, 2009) marks the 200th anniversary of the birth of the European-American literary genius and racially concious writer Edgar Allan Poe. I have paid my respects to the eternal memory of Edgar Poe in person at the Poe Museum in Richmond and at his and his beloved Virginia’s grave site in Baltimore, and I offer them again to all who read my words today.

Just as an abomination like Barack Hussein Obama could only be elected in an artificial multiracial slave state (and never in the White America of recent and lamented memory, and likewise never in a healthy all-Black nation) — just as a degenerate like “Martin Luther” King could only be lionized by a degraded, ignorant, and servile population — so Edgar Poe could never be published in modern America. His recognition of individual and racial inequality would have made him anathema to those who control the media today, and his private life and reputation would have been ripped to shreds by the international vermin and the vultures they employ.

According to the most plausible theory of his death, Poe died as a result of the corrupt mass ‘democracy’ he despised. Never able to withstand drink without severe reactions, it appears that Poe was shanghaied by ward politicians who were sweeping people off the streets and pumping them with free liquor in between sessions of herding them to the polls to be “voted” several times in succession. (Similar techniques are still used today, especially in “communities of color.”) He was found on the street inebriated and half-mad with alcohol poisoning. He died shortly thereafter. He was only 40 years old and had been planning to remarry when he died.

Who knows what works this sensitive genius might have bequeathed to us had his life not been ended so early? What might he have said about the tragic war brought to this nation by the abolitionists’ equalitarian delusions? What advance might he have made to the Cosmotheist ideas he began to express in his late work Eureka ? What would he have said of Karl Marx and Nietzsche and Wagner and Herbert Spencer? What works of ratiocination and romance and high poetry might he have given us in his second 40 years? We will never know.

Had he been born in our times, we would never even have heard of him. How many European-American geniuses have been relegated to obscurity and despair, about whom we will never know because they refuse to serve the alien masters of the media? We will never know that, either.

Here is one of Poe’s greatest short poems, A Dream Within a Dream :

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow—
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand—
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep—while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
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Edgar Allen Poe : Cosmotheist?
By Kevin Alfred Strom

A READER recently wrote: “I share your enthusiasm for Poe, but I do not understand how he is a Cosmotheist.”

I regard Poe as an instinctive, intuitive Cosmotheist thinker, though he did not construct or expound a religion or philosophy based upon his ideas as did William Pierce and others.

Consider Poe’s words from his ‘prose poem’ Eureka, which he held to be one of his most important works, though it is among his most ignored today. Poe makes many errors in Eureka, but few that cannot be excused by the limited scientific knowledge of his day. He didn’t have the facts available to Pierce, Romer, Dawkins, Cattell, or even Shaw and Nietzsche; but he did see far more deeply than most writers of his time. Some of his intuitive insights are astounding.

One of the central ideas of Cosmotheism is that Man’s consciousness is but part of the emerging self-consciousness of the universe. Poe, who also seems to anticipate the idea of entropy in this passage, said:

‘Now the very definition of Attraction implies particularity — the existence of parts, particles, or atoms; for we define it as the tendency of “each atom to every other atom,” according to a certain law. Of course where there are no parts — where there is absolute Unity — where the tendency to oneness is satisfied — there can be no Attraction: — this has been fully shown, and all Philosophy admits it. When, on fulfilment of its purposes, then, Matter shall have returned into its original condition of One — a condition which presupposes the expulsion of the separative ether, whose province and whose capacity are limited to keeping the atoms apart until that great day when, this ether being no longer needed, the overwhelming pressure of the finally collective Attraction shall at length just sufficiently predominate… and expel it: — when, I say, Matter, finally, expelling the Ether, shall have returned into absolute Unity, — it will then (to speak paradoxically for the moment) be Matter without Attraction and without Repulsion — in other words, Matter without Matter — in other words, again, Matter no more. In sinking into Unity, it will sink at once into that Nothingness which, to all Finite Perception, Unity must be — into that Material Nihility from which alone we can conceive it to have been evoked — to have been created by the Volition of God.

‘I repeat then — Let us endeavor to comprehend that the final globe of globes will instantaneously disappear, and that God will remain all in all.

‘But are we here to pause? Not so. On the Universal agglomeration and dissolution, we can readily conceive that a new and perhaps totally different series of conditions may ensue — another creation and irradiation, returning into itself — another action and reaction of the Divine Will. Guiding our imaginations by that omniprevalent law of laws, the law of periodicity, are we not, indeed, more than justified in entertaining a belief — let us say, rather, in indulging a hope — that the processes we have here ventured to contemplate will be renewed forever, and forever, and forever; a novel Universe swelling into existence, and then subsiding into nothingness, at every throb of the Heart Divine?

‘And now — this Heart Divine — what is it? It is our own. Let not the merely seeming irreverence of this idea frighten our souls from that cool exercise of consciousness — from that deep tranquillity of self-inspection — through which alone we can hope to attain the presence of this, the most sublime of truths, and look it leisurely in the face.’

Poe explicitly rejects the idea of an anthropomorphic God, and ridicules the idea of a God with a human-like body:

‘The force which carries a stellar body around its primary they assert to have originated in an impulse given immediately by the finger -– this is the childish phraseology employed -– by the finger of Deity itself. In this view, the planets, fully formed, are conceived to have been hurled from the Divine hand, to a position in the vicinity of the suns, with an impetus mathematically adapted to the masses, or attractive capacities, of the suns themselves. An idea so grossly unphilosophical, although so supinely adopted, could have arisen only from the difficulty of otherwise accounting for the absolutely accurate adaptation, each to each, of two forces so seemingly independent, one of the other, as are the gravitating and tangential.’

Poe refers to God repeatedly as the God of Nature — not of scripture — though he differs from Cosmotheists and Pantheists when he suggests that Nature and God are distinct:

For my part, I have no patience with fantasies at once so timorous, so idle, and so awkward. They belong to the veriest cowardice of thought. That Nature and the God of Nature are distinct, no thinking being can long doubt. By the former we imply merely the laws of the latter.’

However, he posits a universe in which God and the divine stand outside of time (an idea that Savitri Devi was to elaborate) and in which all natural laws and all occurrences within time are connected by a chain of what I would call crystalline inevitability and can one and all be subsumed under the word “Law.”

‘But with the very idea of God, omnipotent, omniscient, we entertain, also, the idea of the infallibility of his laws. With Him there being neither Past nor Future -– with Him all being Now –- do we not insult him in supposing his laws so contrived as not to provide for every possible contingency? -– or, rather, what idea can we have of any possible contingency, except that it is at once a result and a manifestation of his laws? He who, divesting himself of prejudice, shall have the rare courage to think absolutely for himself, cannot fail to arrive, in the end, at the condensation of laws into Law -– cannot fail of reaching the conclusion that each law of Nature is dependent at all points upon all other laws, and that all are but consequences of one primary exercise of the Divine Volition. Such is the principle of the Cosmogony which, with all necessary deference, I here venture to suggest and to maintain.

‘In this view, it will be seen that, dismissing as frivolous, and even impious, the fancy of the tangential force having been imparted to the planets immediately by “the finger of God,” I consider this force as originating in the rotation of the stars: -– this rotation as brought about by the in-rushing of the primary atoms, towards their respective centres of aggregation: –- this in-rushing as the consequence of the law of Gravity: –- this law as but the mode in which is necessarily manifested the tendency of the atoms to return into imparticularity: -– this tendency to return as but the inevitable rëaction of the first and most sublime of Acts -– that act by which a God, self existing and alone existing, became all things at once, through dint of his volition, while all things were thus constituted a portion of God.’

And that I would call an early and distinct intimation of Cosmotheism.

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Indeed. Or as the physicist and astronomer Stephen Hawking would say, and of the Cosmos as a Whole, that,
"It is all a Singularity!"

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Benjamin Bice

Re: After 40 years of observation, I have reached a conclusi

Post by Benjamin Bice » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:05 am

Thanks, Cosmotheist. Edgar Allan Poe and H.P. Lovecraft are my two favorite short story writers. I also have an aversion for high/epic fantasy.

Cosmotheist

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Post by Cosmotheist » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:34 am

Ben,

An aversion?

a·ver·sion
əˈvərZHən/
noun
a strong dislike or disinclination.
"he had a deep-seated aversion to most forms of exercise"
synonyms: dislike of, antipathy for, distaste for, abhorrence of, hatred of, odium of, loathing of, detestation of, hostility toward; More
antonyms: liking
someone or something that arouses strong feelings of dislike.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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