Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

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David York

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by David York » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:22 pm

Will Williams wrote:
DanielOlj79 wrote:

Above is a presentation at a Stormfront conference by a "Russian Orthodox"/Christian Identist, Matt Heimbach. In it he raises an interesting question, a question which would supposedly debunk the theory that Christianity was a weapon of the Jews to subdue White people...
I attended that Stormfront seminar, but left before the Saturday afternoon speeches so missed this Heimbach fellow. I did happen to get into a 20-minute, or so, impromptu religious debate with him in the snack room Friday evening in our hotel lobby, though. He is a good speaker, but all he could do with me as I hit him with the Cosmotheist/Creator biocentric world view was to keep citing, with a straight face and much conviction, scripture after scripture from the Big Jew Book to "prove" that Jesus Christ would eventually come down through the clouds on a white horse to save the White race. We had an audience of seven or eight other attendees of the conference who got a good earful of of the Biological Racist POV vs. the Identist POV. What a stark contrast of world views that was! Heimbach didn't like at all that I told him he worshiped the Jew's tribal god.

I could only watch one minute of this video, knowing already how this rather arrogant young man thinks. I read where this "Identist" got into a rather heated argument at the event with another Identist, Thom Robb, over some position the former Identist advanced that the latter did not agree with. "Dueling scriptures," I suppose. :lol:
I agree with you will that this guy is a good speaker, however I don't agree with his Christian views. I agree with what Cosmotheist said above, Christian Identity is a pretty nutty concept. Instead of just dumping the religion all together, some racialist whites who can't give up Christ have chosen to change the identities of the so called chosen people.. How sad. What is even more sad is that there was a thread on Stormfront regarding this speech, and in it that other CI dude Thomas Robb, who is known as Pastor Robb (how does someone get to be a pastor of a fake religion?) was attacking Heimbach in the thread saying that he had a conversation with Heimbach on Facebook where Heimbach claimed that his religion allowed miscegenation. People were telling Pastor Robb to knock it off with the criticism, but he kept hammering on about it and was offering to send people a transcript of his conversation with Heimbach if they sent him a self addressed stamped envelope. LOL :lol: .

Another funny thing is someone else that was at the conference mentioned a slight altercation that occurred between Heimbach and Pastor Robb when Don Black asked Pastor Robb to say grace before the conference dinner. Apparently Heimbach and his group of people were saying their own grace while Robb was saying his, which made an awkward spectacle that some considered to be rude. I find it slightly amusing that infighting was occurring during that Stormfront conference, which was supposed to be a get together for like minded white people. Apparently the Christian segments in the white nationalist movement just can't get along. I guess that's what happens when you use the big tent approach in White Nationalism. Pierce was right to classify Christianity as an opposed ideology.

David York

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by David York » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:51 pm

Cosmotheist wrote:
Hello Daniel. Thanks. You should read it, as there are many relevant points in that article.
Yes, the "churches" are always telling their believers "not to lay up treasures on earth but
in heaven" but these "churches" certainly do not practice what they always preach do they? :D

What else should you expect from any such religion that is founded and is rooted upon Jewish:
"spirituality" and "ideology" and "pseudo-history" and "mythology" and a "egoistic or malignant
narcissism"?

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Hi Cosmotheist. I just read Voice of our Ancestors by Wulf Sorenson and you are right it has some very relevant points. And it is though provoking. It kind of reminds me of the passage from the Jew book Timothy 1:9
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Sorry to quote the Jew bible but I just happened to be reading that verse earlier today and it drew a parallel to what Sorenson wrote. Also the line in the story about Erik that said :
I cannot imagine this Erik, with
bent knee and plaintive voice, begging some god up in the
clouds for mercy and help.
kind of makes me think of my own experiences with church. During mass there are parts where the congregation is supposed to kneel for a while, and this didn't seem so odd to me as a child, but as an adult it seems like an awkward thing to do. If you think about it kneeling is a form of weakness and begging. I think the only time our White Ancestors would humble themselves to kneel would be for a king who was probably a mightier man than the subject. Nowadays in Christian churches, grown men are required to kneel in front of an statue of an emaciated dead man on a cross. That is supposed to be the symbolic representation of the King. Imagine what the ancient kings were probably like, great powerful men adorned with Jewels and treasures, and now the accepted king is a thin man on a cross. It seems spiritually ill to kneel before this symbol if you really think about it. Especially if you are a healthy and strong man. The image of Christ dead on the cross is a weak one. It seems illogical for a strong man to kneel before such a weak image.

Cosmotheist

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by Cosmotheist » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:40 pm

Hi Daniel,

You wrote:

If you think about it kneeling is a form of weakness and begging.

Indeed, and also, of a groveling "subservience" and/or as "slaves" do.

Now, compare this "kneeling" with the "NS Roman Salute" or even with
the "US Military Salute" of which is an "exchange of honor and respect"
all while such exchanges are done by standing and by both "equally and
mutually".

"Semites" are used to such groveling and kneeling to "despotism" and
to "tyranny" but not any true Aryans!

Speaking of "Mass", I always thought it "cannibalistic", even in symbolic
form, to be eating the "body" of and drinking the "blood" of Christ with
a "wafer" and "wine" by the "tribe" of the whole congregation. Sick. :D

This is quite primitive and is barbaric and is beneath any true Aryans.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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David York

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by David York » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:39 pm

Cosmotheist wrote:Hi Daniel,

You wrote:

If you think about it kneeling is a form of weakness and begging.

Indeed, and also, of a groveling "subservience" and/or as "slaves" do.

Now, compare this "kneeling" with the "NS Roman Salute" or even with
the "US Military Salute" of which is an "exchange of honor and respect"
all while such exchanges are done by standing and by both "equally and
mutually".

"Semites" are used to such groveling and kneeling to "despotism" and
to "tyranny" but not any true Aryans!

Speaking of "Mass", I always thought it "cannibalistic", even in symbolic
form, to be eating the "body" of and drinking the "blood" of Christ with
a "wafer" and "wine" by the "tribe" of the whole congregation. Sick. :D

This is quite primitive and is barbaric and is beneath any true Aryans.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Yeah I think the idea is that the Cross/Statue of Jesus/Priest are supposed to represent God, so kneeling is supposed to be symbolic as kneeling before God himself, but I think the ceremony of group prayer like this is very uncharacteristic of true Aryan Nature. I believe if Aryans ever did pray, they did so in private, not in front of others or together with others in a group get to together. I think if you want to pray to God you should do so in your own head or in your own space not in front of other people. Also when you are raised as a Christian you are pretty much forced to accept Jesus as your Lord and God. It's not as if you have a choice. You're basically told to follow this religion or else you will go to hell when you die.

Cosmotheist

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:50 am

DanielOlj79 wrote:
Cosmotheist wrote:Hi Daniel,

You wrote:

If you think about it kneeling is a form of weakness and begging.

Indeed, and also, of a groveling "subservience" and/or as "slaves" do.

Now, compare this "kneeling" with the "NS Roman Salute" or even with
the "US Military Salute" of which is an "exchange of honor and respect"
all while such exchanges are done by standing and by both "equally and
mutually".

"Semites" are used to such groveling and kneeling to "despotism" and
to "tyranny" but not any true Aryans!

Speaking of "Mass", I always thought it "cannibalistic", even in symbolic
form, to be eating the "body" of and drinking the "blood" of Christ with
a "wafer" and "wine" by the "tribe" of the whole congregation. Sick. :D

This is quite primitive and is barbaric and is beneath any true Aryans.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Yeah I think the idea is that the Cross/Statue of Jesus/Priest are supposed to represent God, so kneeling is supposed to be symbolic as kneeling before God himself, but I think the ceremony of group prayer like this is very uncharacteristic of true Aryan Nature. I believe if Aryans ever did pray, they did so in private, not in front of others or together with others in a group get to together. I think if you want to pray to God you should do so in your own head or in your own space not in front of other people. Also when you are raised as a Christian you are pretty much forced to accept Jesus as your Lord and God. It's not as if you have a choice. You're basically told to follow this religion or else you will go to hell when you die.
Indeed, but, the main fallacy is the false and unproven "assumption" that "God" is a "person"
that both can and that actually does listen to prayers in the first place. It is a "childish" idea,
suitable only for the "spiritually and morally and mentally" immature. We all have a "free will"
and choice of "religion" as mature adults and can either accept and believe all of these false
delusions of "hell and heaven" and the Jewish "carrot and stick" method of mind and spiritual
control over all others or not. I, for one, am free of this "Jewish mental and spiritual poison."

But, to do so requires actual "Personal Integrity", which is mental or intellectual honesty and is
moral and spiritual courage and all of which is becoming ever more scarce in this "degenerate"
Western Civilization of today of which is rapidly unraveling towards "barbarism and savagery".

Cosmotheism is the "cure and panacea" for this Jewish "spiritual disease" called "Christianity",
but, it is not for everyone of our White Race, yet. Only a true elite of our Race has that "PI"
and is fully capable of understanding these Whole Truths of Cosmotheism. We are adults in
a world of children. We must lead the way towards our Race's own survival and advancement
ever upwards towards a Personal Godhood, and of which is the Creator's own self-realization.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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David York

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by David York » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:57 am

Cosmotheist wrote:
Indeed, but, the main fallacy is the false and unproven "assumption" that "God" is a "person"
that both can and that actually does listen to prayers in the first place. It is a "childish" idea,
suitable only for the "spiritually and morally and mentally" immature. We all have a "free will"
and choice of "religion" as mature adults and can either accept and believe all of these false
delusions of "hell and heaven" and the Jewish "carrot and stick" method of mind and spiritual
control over all others or not. I, for one, am free of this "Jewish mental and spiritual poison."

But, to do so requires actual "Personal Integrity", which is mental or intellectual honesty and is
moral and spiritual courage and all of which is becoming ever more scarce in this "degenerate"
Western Civilization of today of which is rapidly unraveling towards "barbarism and savagery".

Cosmotheism is the "cure and panacea" for this Jewish "spiritual disease" called "Christianity",
but, it is not for everyone of our White Race, yet. Only a true elite of our Race has that "PI"
and is fully capable of understanding these Whole Truths of Cosmotheism. We are adults in
a world of children. We must lead the way towards our Race's own survival and advancement
ever upwards towards a Personal Godhood, and of which is the Creator's own self-realization.

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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Yeah that is true. It takes quite a leap of faith to actually accept that Jesus or the Bible version of God is the True God of the universe. What's worse is that the religion discourages any rational thought on the matter, because if you doubt any aspect of that statement, then you are blasphemous and doomed to hell for eternity. What's even worse than that is this religion is usually passed down to kids by their parents. The kids start to learn about the Christian God and the commandments, but they are not allowed to question the merits of these claims. For a child it is especially hard to challenge what religious instructors and even your parents are telling you. If your parents tell you that something is true, the Child would probably think that their parents wouldn't lie to them. Also adults including parents and religious instructors have positions of authority over children, because children are usually taught to listen to their elders and to obey them. There are many aspects of the bible, especially in the old testament, which are obviously false and can easily been proven wrong, yet followers are forced to find a way to accept that. Even the New Testament is full of miracles and stories which if you heard about at the present time, you would immediately reject such stories, but somehow people believe that this was all possible 2,000 years ago. If you take the story of Christ and apply that to any person in the present time, you would probably think that person was a lunatic for claiming to be the son of God. If you think about it I bet most Christians were brought up in a Christian household. So they were pretty much suckered by the church while they were children. The kids that didn't really believe what they were told, probably still consider themselves Christians, even if deep down they don't believe it, and if they don't really go to church. The adults who convert to Christianity as an adult, probably have some sort of mental deficiency as you stated. A lot of them I think "find God" when they are trying to get off a bad drug habit. That seems to be a bit funny actually.

Cosmotheist

Re: Why the Jews mock Jesus/hate Christianity

Post by Cosmotheist » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:03 pm

Daniel wrote:

A lot of them I think "find God" when they are trying to get off a bad drug habit.
That seems to be a bit funny actually.


Indeed.
Just trading one delusional "addiction" for just another:
http://whitebiocentrism.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=1645
Funny, but, really only in a really sad sort of way, though. :D

Best regards,
Cosmotheist

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