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Christianity and survival of the White Race are incompatible

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Christianity and survival of the White Race are incompatible

PostTue Oct 08, 2013 8:53 am

We want to answer once and for all the question: Can Christianity help build a White racial movement (any White racial movement) or is it part of the problem?

In answering this question I am reminded of a country preacher who flatly stated that, "A religion without a hell ain't worth a damn." We CREATORS do not make any pretense of being without bias, and do not particularly agree with that assessment. Instead, we flatly state that: Any White racial movement that fails to confront and expose Judaic Christianity isn't worth a damn.

We further state that taking unreconstructed, "born again" Christians into our movement is not only counterproductive, but creates dissention and anarchy in our ranks; that Christianity is not just a problem among many, but is basically THE PROBLEM that has crippled the White Man's mind through the ages and prevented the White Race from ever developing a strong White Racial Religion of its own; that it is the most powerful weapon the Jew has forged throughout the ages in getting a grip on the White Man's mind and channeling it down the road to self destruction and genocide.

We further state that Christianity is the Jew's Maginot Line; that it must be cracked before we can get to the enemy and destroy him. (The French Maginot Line was breached and outflanked.) We further state that Christianity and the survival of the White Race are incompatible. Either one or the other will survive, but not both.


-Ben Klassen, Racial Loyalty Issue 10 - March 1984, Who Needs Them? A Polyglot Mind and a Polyglot Society
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PostWed Aug 10, 2016 10:00 pm

The current scholars who proppse 'mythicism'(the belief that Jesus and other Bibical figures are myths and not historical figures who lived) are typically not White Nationalists.
Of course they would have absolutely no funding for their vast and lengthy research were they WN.

But what they have discovered with their research is in keeping with Klassen's assessment from the above mentioned 'Expanding Creativity', 1985:

And I say that because I think that which is not true is not good for anyone, including but not limited to protecting the white race.

From:
http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/201 ... 8026.shtml

Excerpt:
"..Moses performs two water miracles that end the people's thirst: the tree revealed by God (making bitter water drinkable again, his second miracle), and the flow of water struck from a rock (his fourth miracle). Mark has split these up, so that each inspires two miracle narratives for Jesus, but in different sequences, thus keeping the total miracle narratives in each sequence at five - yet another conspicuous coincidence, evincing considerable artifice. In the first sequence Mark draws on the water-from-a-rock episode, which carried the theme of faith overcoming fear and thus obtaining salvation. Hence, the episodes of Jairus's daughter and the woman with a hemorrhage have the same theme of faith overcoming fear to achieve salvation from suffering or death. The woman also flowed with blood, while the rock flowed with water. And in the Jairus narrative Jesus takes only his top three apostles with him into the bed chamber (the pillars Peter, James and John: Mk 5.37), just as Moses is told to take only three elders with him to strike the rock (Exod. 17.5). The Exodus narrative likewise has the Jews perishing and worried about dying (17.3), thus Mark produces parallel narratives about a woman perishing (besides the obvious fact that she was slowly bleeding to death, that her condition was worsening is explicitly stated: Mk 5.26) and a girl who died.'

As the blog entry explains, Mark deliberately created these double narratives, it was no accident.

And then the gospel of Luke is now discovered,( and peer review does not find fault with the assertion), that it is a forgery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Aj_KQliAc

So you can't have a reality based value system and mix it with these kinds of lies and get anything noble out of it. In my opinion.
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Re: Christianity and survival of the White Race are incompat

PostWed Aug 10, 2016 10:53 pm

Remnants of A Christian Financial Empire

From Charlotte:

This may bewilder or bother plenty of people, but here goes anyway:

Jim Bakker hosts a religious TV show with his perky wife. At age
seventy-one, he preaches God's love while peddling Jesus pendants
and the like from a new Christian retreat in Blue Eye, Missouri,
which looks a lot like his old Christian retreat in Fort Mill. More
than twenty years after he rose to fame and fell to shame at PTL
("Praise the Lord"), he's doing pretty much the same thing, but
without nearly the same following and without overselling lifetime
memberships. We'll get to that last one in due course. It's hard
for anyone who moved to Charlotte after, say, 1987 to fathom how
big Bakker was way back when. With his lovable wife, Tammy Faye,
giggling and crying at his side, he commanded a religious TV empire
that mesmerized millions. Clearly a lot of Christians bought what
he sold -- that God loves us, and that He also wants us to be
prosperous. In 1986, in the heart of the glory days, 6 million
visitors flocked to his Disneyland-like retreat near Carowinds
to watch the TV show live, browse the Christian shops along Main
Street, and gawk at the Christmas lights strung across the vast
complex.

It all came crashing down in a cloud of sex and money, the Wikipedia
-style version of which is this: he had a fifteen-minute affair
with church secretary Jessica Hahn, paid her hush money, then spent
nearly five years in federal prison for overselling lifetime
memberships to his Heritage Grand Hotel, which has never been
finished. He got out of prison in 1994, his ministry in ruins
and his wife gone, Tammy Faye having divorced him after thirty
years. She married family friend Roe Messner.

So where are they all now?

Bakker and his second wife, Lori, co host The Jim Bakker Show from
the Morningside residential/retail complex twenty miles south of
Branson, Missouri. A developer who credits Bakker with saving his
marriage years ago bankrolled the development. The show's not
available on Charlotte TV nor in most other markets -- though,
like nearly everything else these days, you can catch it on the
Internet. Bakker didn't return two calls. He pretty much soured
on the serious media after The Charlotte Observer won a Pulitzer
for bringing him down. He did, however, show up from time to time
on Larry King Live to answer softball tosses about the good old
days, even appearing with his first and second wives.

Tammy Faye died of cancer in 2007. She was sixty-five. While her
ex went right back to what he figured he knew, she reinvented
herself to the point that she became a pop culture icon. There
was the short-lived syndicated TV talk show, The Jim J. and Tammy
Faye Show; a critically acclaimed documentary, The Eyes of Tammy
Faye; and those T-shirts declaring "I ran into Tammy Faye at the
shopping mall." She became popular with many in the gay community
— maybe it was the heavy mascara, the cancer-can't-defeat-me
feistiness, or the way she kept coming back from scandal, ridicule,
prescription drug addiction, and whatever else life threw at her.
By the time she appeared on, yes, Larry King Live days before her
death, looking like a ghost, her place in modern American consciousness
seemed cemented.

Jessica Hahn appeared in Playboy before slipping into obscurity.

The Bakkers' daughter, Tammy Sue, did some Christian singing after
PTL. Their son, Jamie Charles, goes by Jay. He founded Revolution,
a ministry aimed at those who feel scorned by mainstream Christianity.
Awash in Jesus tattoos and body piercings, he preaches Sundays at
Revolution New York City, which meets in a performing arts space
called Pete's Candy Store in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn.
MorningStar Ministries, little known in mainstream Christian circles,
purchased some of the PTL complex and uses it today for conferences
and a school. It's trying to market the still-unfinished Heritage
Grand Hotel to retirees. The water park's gone. So is the swimming
pool in the lobby of the hotel. You can close your eyes and try to
recall what it once was in the glory days. But it's hard to imagine.

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Re: Christianity and survival of the White Race are incompat

PostThu Aug 11, 2016 4:37 am

We were never really Christians; when Christianity was the official religion we simply didn’t follow it; we made it into something that was a lot better (or less worse) than real Christianity. I doubt many if any king really believed in Christianity, they simply saw it as a tool to control the population(religion is useful for the rulers). Of course we did some good things under Christianity such as the crusades but then we didn't follow the religion fully.

If you follow Christianity fully you end up being naked and starving under a bridge (you gave away everything); your face is deformed from turning the other cheek; your eyes are gouged out since Christianity requires you to do this if you get aroused by a woman.
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Re: Christianity and survival of the White Race are incompat

PostThu Aug 11, 2016 10:34 am

Wade Hampton III wrote:The Bakkers' daughter, Tammy Sue, did some Christian singing after
PTL. Their son, Jamie Charles, goes by Jay. He founded Revolution,
a ministry aimed at those who feel scorned by mainstream Christianity.
Awash in Jesus tattoos and body piercings, he preaches Sundays at
Revolution New York City, which meets in a performing arts space
called Pete's Candy Store in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn.
MorningStar Ministries, little known in mainstream Christian circles,
purchased some of the PTL complex and uses it today for conferences
and a school. It's trying to market the still-unfinished Heritage
Grand Hotel to retirees. The water park's gone. So is the swimming
pool in the lobby of the hotel. You can close your eyes and try to
recall what it once was in the glory days. But it's hard to imagine.


This documentary film has a very interesting segment on PTL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChjmviRYkQg

I think one thing most interesting that is not in the film: The reason for the 'take down' of Bakker.
Both now deceased, Paul and Jan Crouch, who worked for Bakker, pretty much stole his empire that he built via scandal. It may have been an evil empire, but it was far more evil after the Crouch's came along.

Jan Crouch was Jewish. Their son has now inherited the empire TBN network that grew out of PTL.

The Crouch's had a huge television studio built in Irving, TX for TBN, made to look like the White House. Their dream is to mix church and state, hence why they built this White House replica.

They are the host to the 'Benny Hinn' show, the India Indian who got in hot water when he told people with Aids/HIV they had been healed by Jesus. He fills stadiums, which is terrifying, that many people will go and believe some India Indian can blow on them and smack their forehead and they won't have Cancer, Aids, A broken leg,etc.

I believe Dallas, TX was at one time called the number one home of 'Born Again' Christianity. Notice how many in the film are from that area: Popoff, Tilton, the 'Eagles Nest' ministry, etc.

Back to Bakker, though, and the film portion about him: they built a home for disabled children that was beautiful and would show it on their program-the problem was it only ever had one resident.
The Bakkers did more good though than the Crouch's-they had a home for pregnant teenage girls and at least never claimed to cure cancer through a smack to the head, lol. But fairy tales are a slippery slope obviously and lead to insanity if they're not considered exactly that, fairy tales.
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PostThu Aug 11, 2016 11:23 am

Emily Henderson wrote:...Paul and Jan Crouch, who worked for Bakker, pretty much stole his empire that he built via scandal. It may have been an evil empire, but it was far more evil after the Crouch's came along.

Jan Crouch was Jewish. Their son has now inherited the empire TBN network that grew out of PTL...

It's interesting how many Jews get into the Christian racket...Jews for Jesus, dampened Jews, Conversos, Marranos, etc.

National Vanguard magazine had an article about this phenomenon back sometime in the 1980s, but I forget which issue. One name I remember from that article was Jew con man Tony Alamo whose ministry did not end well for him.
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Arkansas judge awards more than $500 million to
7 woman abused by Tony Alamo

February 27, 2014 Associated Press

TEXARKANA, Ark. – A circuit judge in Arkansas has awarded more than half a billion dollars in damages to seven women who were physically and sexually abused by Tony Alamo when they belonged to the evangelist's ministry.

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Bernie Lazar Hoffman aka Tony Alamo

The Texarkana Gazette reports (http://bit.ly/1kcA7ca ) that Miller County Circuit Judge Kirk Johnson entered a default judgment against Twenty First Century Holiness Tabernacle Church, an arm of Alamo Ministries, after it failed to respond to the civil suit.

Johnson awarded the women a total of $525 million.

Alamo is serving a 175-year prison sentence on sex-related convictions. The victims in the civil case are among the victims from Alamo's criminal case.

A lawyer for Alamo did not immediately respond to a message for comment.
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Source: Texarkana Gazette, http://www.texarkanagazette.com
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PostThu Aug 11, 2016 10:03 pm

Will Williams wrote:It's interesting how many Jews get into the Christian racket...Jews for Jesus, dampened Jews, Conversos, Marranos, etc.

National Vanguard magazine had an article about this phenomenon back sometime in the 1980s, but I forget which issue. One name I remember from that article was Jew con man Tony Alamo whose ministry did not end well for him.


Interesting considering the origin of the current term 'Judeo-Christian' that you will hear white Evangelicals using as they explain why they are pro-Israel:
From:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian:

"..The term is used, as "Judeo Christian", at least as far back as in a letter from Alexander M'Caul dated October 17, 1821.[2] The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity.[3] The term is used similarly by Joseph Wolff in 1829, referring to a style of church that would keep with some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews.[4]
German use of the term judenchristlich ("Jewish-Christian"), in a decidedly negative sense, can be found in the late writings of Friedrich Nietzsche, who emphasized what he saw as neglected aspects of continuity between the Jewish world view and that of Christianity.."

I believe Robert Tilton was also Jewish, and was awash in financial scandal, as was Peter Popoff, whom they caught using the 'n' word when pretending to heal a heavy set black woman. He was heard saying this after he was found to wear an earpiece that would lead him to the 'random' healing recipients in the crowd-his wife was on the other end telling him into the microphone who to heal and what ailment they had.

One thing Jews bring to play is mixing things together in different combinations depending on what will work, the ends justifying the means. Like mixing hippie-dom and Socialism and Jesus-the exact opposite of the TBN Republican Jesus, but just as sick and ultimately destructive:

And there are whites so mentally and emotionally controlled by the dogma they will not listen to reason no matter what they see:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jessehyde/brin ... fvW0dXe52J

This above referenced group commits all the abuses: financial, emotional, sexual, intellectual. Yet people still go there to work for free in the ghetto of downtown Chicago surrounded by blacks and accomplishing nothing.
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PostThu Aug 18, 2016 12:33 am

Emily Henderson wrote:And there are whites so mentally and emotionally controlled by the dogma they will not listen to reason no matter what they see


This was a very interesting read...brought back memories of an earlier
time in my life:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1120&hilit=ayn+rand#p2521

New Banner/College Early Learning went out of business several years ago.
Even the building (Friendly Towers) that housed it was demolished over
a year ago. Like Jessica Hahn, Kennison has also faded into obscurity,
although New Banner Institute/College Early Learning still maintain
an Internet presence and a listing in the Business Telephone Directory...
...for whatever purpose...your guess is as good as mine.

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